Da ultimate challenge: 360 carve on snowboard

[Vahur]

I've seen videos of "carving" 360 with up to 270 carving and finishing on tail spin (I remember video of CMC??? who made even 720 this way).
I've seen video of carving 360 and riding forward on skis (link posted here??)
However, I haven't seen videos of pure 360 carve on snowboard (and riding forward) though I remember that some claimed doing it.
Thus I propose challenge: post video of carving 360, on snowboard, without tail spin. Who's up to this?
Maybe challenge for SES? IIRC Aspen Ajax has some trails/trail intersections suitable for this with crossing intersections and slope sides similar to pipe.
P.S. If you are going to attempt this then don't forget security: most riders on slope are not ready for people riding against gravity!

[newcarver]

Have seen 1 guy do it last season. It's kind of what got me interested in alpine boards. That was the coolest thing I've ever seen!

[Louis]

I guess it would be easier with smaller turning radius, else you need to sit on the tail at the end

[LeeW]

I believe Peter Bauer has done this ages ago.

[tpalka]

Yeah, I'm still working on it too. I can do it with the tail spin, but can't fully carve it. PaulK has a fun way of doing it, moving his weight back and back and carving on the very end of his tail when he completes the "circle".

At the past SES, Joerg from PureBoarding was almost getting a 360 riding switch! You can see him start and end a 360 carve in one of the PureBoarding movies -- forget which one..

tom.

[queequeg]

I'm working on this. I seem to get much further tailside, I can come around pretty far, but still can't close it all the way around. I find I get *MUCH* closer if I am transitioning from a toeside into my buttonhole carve, rather than starting base-flat, I seem to be able to coil the board up tighter that way.

[carvedog]

Originally Posted by Vahur

I've seen videos of "carving" 360 with up to 270 carving and finishing on tail spin (I remember video of CMC??? who made even 720 this way).
I've seen video of carving 360 and riding forward on skis (link posted here??)
However, I haven't seen videos of pure 360 carve on snowboard (and riding forward) though I remember that some claimed doing it.
Thus I propose challenge: post video of carving 360, on snowboard, without tail spin. Who's up to this?
Maybe challenge for SES? IIRC Aspen Ajax has some trails/trail intersections suitable for this with crossing intersections and slope sides similar to pipe.
P.S. If you are going to attempt this then don't forget security: most riders on slope are not ready for people riding against gravity!

This thread is useless without pictures or links to carving videos. I have not seen a full one without cheating at the end.

[lonerider]

I totally think it's possible... like Vahur... all I keep seeing people post "I saw someone do it once." That's not what this post is for... either post a video of it... or go out and keep practicing.

[tufty]

At the end of last season I was *this* (makes little space between thumb and forefinger) close. It needs fair amount of speed and a lot of balls (getting it wrong early on in the carve means an eject), and the right hill (and a board that will turn on that bit of the hill). I believe I'll be able to nail it this season by cheating and coming in sideways-on to the slope, so the first part happens going uphill and gravity helps you round the rest. My attempts last year, I got *loads* closer toeside. Go figure.

Simon

[tex1230]

I have done it...but 15 years and 30-40 pounds ago.
snapped the tail off an inner-course doing it.

I'll make another attempt this year but somehow I don't think it will work...

[tpalka]

Originally Posted by carvedog

This thread is useless without pictures or links to carving videos. I have not seen a full one without cheating at the end.

Very true, and I look forward to the media proof(s) as well

I was referring to the "Beyond Limit" movie at the 2 minute mark:
http://www.pureboarding.com/index.php?id=filme

[Przemek/Brooklyn]

It is accualy very easy if you find right terrain, steep hill that flattens and then turn up. kind of natural, moderate "half pipe" if you try in the right place it is piece of cake, anybody can do this.

[Phil]

Heck with video. Come out to MAC tracks and enter the circle carve competition. Beginners go for one, Experts go for more (double, switch, figure 8, etc.). Come on, I know you all long to ride the Mid Atlantic!

[lonerider]

Originally Posted by tex1230

I have done it...but 15 years and 30-40 pounds ago.

Originally Posted by Przemek/Brooklyn

It is accualy very easy if you find right terrain, steep hill that flattens and then turn up. kind of natural, moderate "half pipe" if you try in the right place it is piece of cake, anybody can do this.

I'm still seeing a lot of talk about it "I did it a long time ago...", "my friend did it", "some other story of a Bigfoot sighting."

Now I'm not trying to censor anyone by discouraging them from posting their empty claims... but this thread is asking for a VIDEO of it because they are already dozens of posts talking about it... just no video... and that's what I, Vahur, Carvedog, and others want. So please, if you don't have a video to back up your talk, please consider not posting until you do

[D-Sub]

Come on, Lonerider...BOL is all about claims! I mean...tons of people claim to be ripping carvers, 360s are easy, ripping the park on that 185 is easy...

maybe they're just riding too hard to film it!

I've never seen a fully carved 360, never tried one. Kinda curious now though. I kinda picture an "extreme" style carve for some reason...

[abakker]

made it probably 270 on my tanker a few days ago. i can't really imagine making it all the way around and still standing up, but my technique isn't the greatest. maybe a different board would make it better...

[cancarve]

yeh i did one--fakie on a McDonalds tray that day at sun valley--yeh thats the ticket--- I think it's on the video we shot that day with Carvedog--which i've never seen--hint hint (jeff-Mellowjonny)

[carvedog]

Originally Posted by lonerider

I'm still seeing a lot of talk about it "I did it a long time ago...", "my friend did it", "some other story of a Bigfoot sighting."

Now I'm not trying to censor anyone by discouraging them from posting their empty claims... but this thread is asking for a VIDEO of it because they are already dozens of posts talking about it... just no video... and that's what I, Vahur, Carvedog, and others want. So please, if you don't have a video to back up your talk, please consider not posting until you do

+1

With everyone and their ****ing donkey having a video camera in their ****ing iTunes, phone, gps, chapstick case whatever - why is their not video.

Tom if it is the part where the guy disappears carving the cameraman for a second - that it about a 250 or 270.

Post no video, tell no lies.

[carvedog]

Originally Posted by cancarve

yeh i did one--fakie on a McDonalds tray that day at sun valley--yeh thats the ticket--- I think it's on the video we shot that day with Carvedog--which i've never seen--hint hint (jeff-Mellowjonny)

I have heard of identity theft. but this is ridiculous. If you are Mellowjonny what is the average airspeed of a one hucked billy bit tit monger?

[cancarve]

why is their not video.
Carvedog how can you slam when we had your buddy videoing all day two seasons ago-- and still no video.

[cancarve]

Originally Posted by carvedog

I have heard of identity theft. but this is ridiculous. If you are Mellowjonny what is the average airspeed of a one hucked billy bit tit monger?

It depends on the pitch and the amount of oxygen in the air.

[tex1230]

whatever...i said a long time ago...

[carvedog]

Originally Posted by cancarve

It depends on the pitch and the amount of oxygen in the air.

With huge nasty fangs it does.

I even gave Kenny a copy of the vid. I can't get it to load on my puter to edit the 7 or 8 minutes of us hacking around down to a manageable utube size.

Besides I looked like carp that day. Oh every day.

You'll just have to come up and beat me up to get one.

[bobdea]

a few guys in the MADD posse I have seen do it and do the tail twirls at the end

there must be video somewhere

if anyone talk with Curt (CMC) ask him, he may have some video of it.

[Dan]

Seen it done in Japan EC style - the guy had his inside arm extended above his head, hand on the snow. He did it on the flat at the bottom of the run, and wound up lying down on the snow. Not sure if that really counts.

The challenge, as I understand it, is that you can't keep the board decambered all the way around (can you?) and when the board is not decambered, you can't turn smaller than the scr without skidding. Is that about the size of it?

I screw around with this once awhile, but have never even gotten close, even though we have a pretty good place for it on MHM at the base of the Shooting Star chair. (Come down the ridge, then cross under the chair. When you're near the base of the chair - the lift will be on your left - hook to the right up that little pitch below Heather. This allows you to head back downhill on the last 180 degrees of the turn. Still can't do it though.)

[D-Sub]

Originally Posted by Vahur

Thus I propose challenge: post video of carving 360, on snowboard, without tail spin. Who's up to this?

[FTA2R]

is the only one i've ever seen, "cheating or not," so if i see anyone pull off even a "cheat 360," i'll be impressed....

listen up people, i can do a 160!!!!

i refuse to try this on a weekend in the mid atlantic...entirely too dangerous...if i can go to mac this year, i'll take video (unless someone has an actual video cam, which would work better)

[Buell]

I tried some last year on different terrain. Not even really close. As FTA2R says though, be sure the run is clear. The look on peoples faces when you have made it 180 and are heading straight at them is pretty interesting, even when they are still far away.

[quest4powder]

After reading the 'can U do a 36o' threads the last few years (all w/o video) I was stoked to give it a try. I found I could get a carved 360 around if I did it on a gully trail, carving up a steep, high wall (w/ packed snow) on the side of the trail. What worked for me was to come in fast on one trail and carve a hard heelside up the steep wall. This provides enough speed to ride the up the intersecting wall and to accelerate back down to complete the circle-arc.

There's probably other ways, but this is one way that has worked for me.

[Jamar]

Almost made it last year, or at least it felt that way...noticed the inside circle for EC arm, and the confused skier. The mess at the top was going back and trying to make a smilie out of it. Lots of fun, feels similar to a 360 carving on a fully laid down in windsurfing.