If I would have said Coliers are crap and break all the time and really need to be reworked because of their failure rate, then that would be personal. But that would also be a lie.
But as we both know I enjoy your products, and your pride and craftsmanship that goes into each one.
I have seen boards fail from all manufactors and they as well are trying to make the best product possible.
I am sure you have a high sucsess rate currently and was not questioning the durability of any particular brand including Coiler.
The fact that wood is the core materal and wood fails was my point. Carbon- fails , titinal-fails. **** breaks sometimes. If the breakage is cause by issues with inserts, leverage or forced hinge points then of coarse these designs need to be reworked.
"While I may have walked through a forest and seen a downed tree, I have never seen one properly wrapped in Titanal and glass/carbon have any troubles(-:"
Kesslers, SGs and other manufactors also wrap the wood with Titanal and glass/carbon, and here we are discussing Kesslers breaking. perhaps the arguement would be they are not properly wrapped, but they have failed.
As you can imagine, I have seen the inside of most major types of boards and it is a matter of the way they are assembled with associated reinforcement ( or lack thereof) which can greatly affect the longevity of the board under the stresses of high performance riding.
Since this discussion envoles you and I, I think this is a great statement and one I fully support, I just had to place a SG back into the press to fix a impact issue, I dont blame the SG build quailty but the impact.
I do beleave that this is the case in so many sports that invole racing, that the duribilty of a product is sacrifised in exchange for the proformance characteristics. the water kite race board that wins everything only has about a six month life span but is faster then anything else on the water, intill it breaks or breaks down. If I want a more durable board then I lose proformance, that is the consumers call to make when they buy a board, and the manufactors call when it comes to what type of warrenty they offer. Once a board breaks out side the warrenty period it may never be documented by the manufactor, which keeps you from having to worry about your fingers on the band saw.
If the case you are making is that your boards are more durable then Kesslers based on your warrenty claims, then you should make it here on the forum. The response I made was that all boards break. The fact that I quoted a guy claiming coilers don't break was just by chance, since I have seen boards from all manufactors break. I have never had to warrenty a Coiler becuase I don't sell or ride them.
I hope you enjoy the rest of ECES nice chating with you as always.