Hot Rod Race Wax Reviews

[t.stoughton]

Hot Rod Race Wax by Red Oak Development Llc.

A big thanks to Fin for approving us to make our company announcement on “Bomber Online.” Home of Hot Rod Race Wax is now available via online shopping. Check out our website www.HotRodRaceWax.com Don’t believe us that it’s a great product... read the testimonials! http://www.rod-llc.com/Testimonials.html

[Buell]

It seems to me that marketing by the owner of the company should not be posted in the gear review forum.

[WEBSIGHT360]

It seems to me, that there are a few people here on BOL that have been giving T.Stoughton a hard time about his new product. It also seems to me that those people being the harshest, have not even tried the stuff. The above posting of his website has reviews by some prominent BOL members that have only good things to say about the product when they used it. So perhaps those that have anything negative to say, should hold off until they have tried it. I think that product announcements or "marketing" are sometimes the only way I might hear about products such as this. This IS the place for them. And no, I have not tried the wax, but I probably will after reading about it here on BOL.

[Buell]

It seems to me, that there are a few people here on BOL that have been giving T.Stoughton a hard time about his new product.

I am not one of them and would not speak without trying it.

The above posting of his website has reviews by some prominent BOL members that have only good things to say about the product when they used it.

Yes, reviews on his website. Let's get real, those are reviews he chose to put on his website. Just like most every other company that has a website for marketing and puts up testimonials by customers.

There is a significant risk of bias in the collection of reviews and it does not belong in the review section. It is marketing by a vendor and belongs elsewhere.

[D.T.]

for those that may have missed the point, here are the five reviews to which the link in the original post led:

Hot Rod wax is super smooth and fast. I would have loved to have had this wax when I was racing and coaching. The durability is excellent so you won't go through as much wax and you don't have to scrape it all off to go fast. This saves time and doesn't make a big mess. Follow the application instructions and you will be graced with a lot of glide and speed.

I have ridden this wax down to -5F and up as high as 45F with very good results at both extremes. I will be recommending this wax to anyone who is looking for a fast, durable wax.
- Derek Runes (aka inkaholic) "Senior Team Rider" for ROD Llc.

I have used the hot rod wax for over a year on both skis and snowboards. It is the fastest and most durable wax that I have ever used. The latest formula provides the perfect blend of speed and durablity. On long flat run outs, free carving, or the race course, this is the only wax that I use.
- Arne (aka arenburner) "He's Modest & He's FAST!" He won at Steamboat NASTAR National Championships last year on HRRW. ROD Llc.

The way you judge wax performance is simple… by the way it glides. I noticed the performance of HOT ROD the first time I got off the chairlift. I stepped down, put my back foot on the board and glided a distance, over to where the group congregates and buckles-in. My friend sitting next to me on the chair had to skate several steps to get over to the group. I waited several seconds for him to arrive and exerted less energy getting there. We then buckled-in and headed down a catwalk; my friend was slightly ahead of me. In no time I had passed my friend and gained a significant lead. I ran away from everyone I rode with, all day long, and it wasn’t because of superior riding ability, it was because of the wax!

While I do enjoy performing all my own preparation and maintenance on my boards, I do not have the time to wax the boards for the given conditions the night before every ride. For years I have searched of the one wax that will handle all conditions, with no sacrifice in performance, and last more than one days ride. With HOT ROD wax, the glide has been superb no matter what the conditions, be it sub-zero, crunchy snow at first chair or mid-afternoon wet, heavy snow and I am getting up to five days ride out of one application.

The bottom line - day after day, this wax has proved its superiority and durability, no matter what the conditions or temperatures. Buy the wax, follow the directions and enjoy the glide!
- Dustin T., you can find other postings from "D.T. on Bomber Online."

Scarry fast... and I love it.
- Bola Owner of "All Boards Sports" Boulder CO : if you haven't been to his shop your missing out! ROD Llc.

ROD has been working on some magic wax that the LCI has been testing since last season. It is long lasting, fast, and has been working in temps from +45f to -5f. I have been getting at least 4 days between waxings at 250lbs. Good stuff, not yet available to the general public. I may have said to much already...
- Mario "from Big Mario's post on Bomber Online."

[Buell]

for those that may have missed the point, here are the five reviews to which the link in the original post led:

Let those individuals start the thread and post their reviews in this forum.

Is it actually you guys contention that anyone who sells a product for alpine gear can start a thread on their product in the review section. Provided that they have hand chosen reviews or testimonials of the product on their website?

Again, I am not saying anything about the product, just the marketing technique. I am not in favor of Bruce starting a thread with all the great reviews he gets by email, or Donek, Catek, Prior or any other company providing links to testimonials in the review forum.

[balboajeff]

I ride with all these guys every weekend, Do we hang together , you bet.
Do I think that these folks would sulley their charactor endorsing something without genuine feeling for the product? never.
Is Fin called out for being too conflicted in his envolvement on this site ?
T, let me have some of that wax , and I'll throw in my 2 cents.

[Buell]

Is Fin called out for being too conflicted in his envolvement on this site ?

Not an accurate analogy. This IS Fin's website.

[t.stoughton]

I ride with all these guys every weekend, Do we hang together , you bet.
Do I think that these folks would sulley their charactor endorsing something without genuine feeling for the product? never.
Is Fin called out for being too conflicted in his envolvement on this site ?
T, let me have some of that wax , and I'll throw in my 2 cents.

LCS we will be giving FREE sample while they last which I expect to be all of 5 minutes. To the other concerns the testimonials are everything we have recieved(.) We have already tested and got our lumps out of the way before we went to sales and marketing! All we ask is that you follow the included instruction card because it's important. It part of product design. See you at LCS!

[Buell]

Put this marketing in the Vendor Announcements Forum. This is not Gear Reviews.

[chab]

Hot Rod Race Wax by Red Oak Development Llc.

A big thanks to Fin for approving us to make our company announcement on “Bomber Online.” Home of Hot Rod Race Wax is now available via online shopping. Check out our website www.HotRodRaceWax.com Don’t believe us that it’s a great product... read the testimonials! http://www.rod-llc.com/Testimonials.html

You are welcome,stough!

[Steve Prokopiw]

I posted a review late last season of the hotrod wax but had not used it on the Diablo 210 yet with a fully applied coat and was impressed even then at Lovey.

Yesterday I rode the Diablo at Lookout in temps in the high teens on fresh snow and soft groomed.This time I had applied a full coat with more time taken to get the right coverage the entire length.

The result was a super nice glide with no indication of wear after about seven carving runs and one down the chopped powder front face at Lookout.

It took a fair amount of the puck to cover the big stick(about half the 30 gram puck)by hand rubbing and then lightly passing it along the iron to get a little more coverage, but the durability of the application combined with the the noticably fast glide it results in, seems to make it well worth the cost.I'll be up today for more fun on the same coat and will be doing many more runs than yesterday so I will get to see more about the durability.

[jp1]

Have to agree the HRRW is the way to go for me! I knew it worked well in Pennsylvania conditions (posted above) but recently had the oppertunity to try it in Colorado, powda.
Fast, (too fast for me) and lasts like crazy in those conditions .

[t.stoughton]

JP1,
Thanks! Your right, HRRW, is fast and last a long time. Arnie has won two (2) NASTAR titles on HRRW. Using the Wax Wizard adds to the value since you polish the base and don't scrape the wax into the garbage can! 50gm should last an entire season.

[Steve Prokopiw]

and did an experiment on my G-Force171 by ironing in a thin layer of hard/cold wax and the rubbing hotrod in while it was still warm.Then ironed that in and lightly scraped and brushed.Fastest this board has ever glided in wet snow in this temp range.Noticable low friction feel to the glide in varied conditions including wind blown pow,wet and set (not Cascade wet but pretty wet) and even some light crust caused by a few minutes of freezing rain.All in the same day.The board slid over all of it extremely well.
This wax seems like it has a pretty specific temp range not too cold/not too warm,but within the range it performs extremely well.

ps,in a previous post I over estimated how much hotrod it took to wax my 210,saying that it took about half a 30 gram bar.It was really less than a third.

[Dave Winters]

Got a chance to try the new warmer temp Plum from the Hot Rod laboratory last weekend at the Copper USASA. Super fast... Cody went Gold/Gold on Slalom and GS! Really easy to apply with the Wax Wizard....Thanks, Tony.

[AndrewR]

From all the reviews it looks like worth to try it. I just ordered 50g which cost me $104 shipped to Canada and will try it out. Although it may look expensive, but if it lasts so long and can be used in a variety of conditions it may be worth on the long run. I have 5 boards where only 2 really count and intend to use this supoer wax on only those two boards. My season can not start before mid January, so may review may not come too soon.
Andrew

[arneburner]

I tested the Plum wax at Loveland last week. I was glad that my new boots have good treads because you need it to slow down in the lift maze and when getting off the lift. This wax was very fast across the flats. Using the mytracks on my phone, I hit 49.3 mph on Home Run near the bottom.

The temperature started at 14F and warmed to 23F. At these temps the regular HHRW would run fine, but so did this warmer plum wax. I hope to test the upper range of the wax tomorrow. Thanks Tony for the chance to test another great wax.

[WavesWithin]

Thanks for the over-pour of the Super Wet Base Wax. I used it with the HRRW and the Wax Wizard in accordance with your instructions. Very fast! I've used it on powder, ice, and groomed piste between 18 and 32 degrees. My home mountain is icy right now and wax jobs don't last too long on that stuff. I think I have 4 days on this wax and I applied it very thin. I'll give it a warm rub before I go up tomorrow evening for some twilight riding.

[big mario]

I just finished waxing 2 sticks using the wax wizard kit/method, nice Idea JD, and way to go Tony for combining the Hot Rod and the Wax Wizard in one kit.
For those of you concerned about waste, there is none using this method, and you actually use very little of the product with the new method. Cannot wait to see how the polishing method works for glide tomorrow. I will update as to wear and glide in the next few days.
mario

[GeoffV]

Did a USASA race series this past weekend and used the same method as Big Mario. I'm pretty sure I have an all temp wax which seems to work better than the dominator wax I've used the last 10 years.
I've been using the wax-wizard method for 7+ years and Tony's Hot Rod wax seems to last longer than the other waxes I've been using.

[inkaholic]

Used the Wax Wizard to test the ROD Super Wet base wax alone. The stuff was flying on a beautiful day, about 22*F with sun shining. The Wax Wizard was way easy to apply the wax and absolutely no wasted wax. Next test will be Super Wet underneath and Hot Rod on top for two days at SES.

Ink

[MR. JOHN DEERE !]

im all out, need more please !