Alpine Snowboard Plate Systems

[Jack Michaud]

Vist works with just the 4-hole pattern, but you won't be able to lock the middle, which is fine. Bola (All Boards Sports) sells them. I don't know about the others.

[pokkis]

I would formulate that Vist can be installed to 4X4 pattern.
Sflex works with 4x4 but it will shorten available stance area by 4cm, so if you dont have paly enough that can be problem.
Gerab works also with 4x4 without problems it just needs looong screws

Shread, i would recommend Vist for testing, they give best bang for buck

[guido591]

"Sflex works with 4x4 but it will shorten available stance area by 4cm, so if you dont have paly enough that can be problem."

SFlex requires a minimum of 5 rows of inserts. That said, they are perhaps the best option for non-racing use given issues of weight and size.


"Gerab works also with 4x4 without problems it just needs looong screws"

While Rabanser may have a set or two of these for sale, I don't know that they are actively producing Gerab plates at this time. The link to the Gerab site has been down for quite a while.

[pokkis]

I've got very slightly used pair of Gerabs, and i can sell them due i prefer my Vist much more, and Sflex are bolted to my wifes board.

[Keyser Soze]

Because it was different.

We like to think we are open to change.

Most are not until it has become accepted.

Really? I would think that Alpine riders would be the first to try different things from the get-go. The boards themselves are different enough.

Where can I get them..

need the links, since I am not in tune with all the options that are out there that will work with just the 4 hole..

VIST:
http://www.hardbooter.com/Vist_Plate...ard_p/vist.htm

F2 S-Flex:
http://www.yyzcanuck.com/store/F2-S-Flex.html


Bola sells Hangl plates and the Vist plate, here's the website, but it isn't an online store:
http://www.allboardssports.com/

[www.oldsnowboards.com]

Really? I would think that Alpine riders would be the first to try different things from the get-go. The boards themselves are different enough.

Yes, I agree, we are certainly outside the norm, even being willing to try alpine, this I agree. Within that subset, the majority, still prefer to wait until something has the approval of "The Group" prior to getting on board. It is largely human nature. On the flip side there probably a high percentage of those willing to seek new and innovative concepts, take risks, push the envelople within this group. It is however, IMO a fairly small percentage none the less. I have a long list of examples. Yet I would prefer to stay on topic with this thread of "Plates". Perhaps another thread?

Original quote was in regards to the popularity of the "Con Shox" Plate.

Because it was different.
We like to think we are open to change.
Most are not until it has become accepted.
Time and time again.
Thanks to those adding photos and good quality comment in keeping this thread productive and valid.

[www.oldsnowboards.com]

Early Tinkler plate on a F2 196cm

Broz Slalom

24-7

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Kildy Flex - LLB - 24-7
Close up of Tinkler Plate on the F2
Kildy Flex - LLB - 24-7 close up

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Hope to get a release from Mike to post photos of the Olympic versions of his plate designs. He is currently quite busy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr_PK1mBUaM

[www.oldsnowboards.com]

As a tinkerer myself, I have been surprised to find how many 'great ideas',particularly in cycling, were thought up half a century ago.

Indeed. I have had so many folks say "My ideas is to do a90qwerq", I have to be the bearer of bad news. "Been Done" 15 years ago.

Best example is the rotating binding plate. Will these guys never learn? Spend their retirement to develope something they like, only to learn 4 companies prior to them have come and gone. Out of business. Oh well.

Dr.s are the best. They have enough money to make it to production. Many of the greatest flops have been backed by Dr.s. For a collector they are the best!!! PS, on the flip side they have come up with some brilliant ideas too.
Derby Flex comes to mind. Ski Bindings that work. Etc.

[b0ardski]

Having directly compared the 167 LLB to the Madd BX 168 the similarities blew me away and allowed me to let go of the madd with minimal regret.

The Madd is lighter, 1 cm narrower, and a good bit snappier than the very damp Kildyflex. Being lighter & snappier the Madd rules in the bumps. The LLB has a bit tighter radius and no taper but it holds a carve on the groom with stiff stepin binders that match the BX. The 24/7 board under the plate is a nothing special, just a typical med flex freeride board.

The only other freeride board I've ridden with the carving power of a CF butterfly is the 173 Identity AM with tip-tail carbon rods in the core.
I am planning to put the Kildyflex plate on the 173 Id to gain some effective edge, better float and the benifits of a blended scr. This should also result in better carve initiation as the tip/tail of the carbon rod equipped 173 is stiffer than the 24/7 or even the madd beyond the CF plate.

Will post pics & review when I gear up to make the swap.

[bobdea]

I am planning to put the Kildyflex plate on the 173 Id to gain some effective edge, better float and the benifits of a blended scr. This should also result in better carve initiation as the tip/tail of the carbon rod equipped 173 is stiffer than the 24/7 or even the madd beyond the CF plate.

Will post pics & review when I gear up to make the swap.

how would a plate of any type change your effective edge?

[b0ardski]

167 to 173, gaining effective with a longer board under the plate.

[bobdea]

ohhhhhhhh, I see what you were trying to say.

[b0ardski]

The new combination should have the same bombproof carving power with some advantages.

[DEON]

Which plate is this?



Thanks
RT

That plate is a Custom designed plate designed by the rider Mike Trapp aka Mtrappy on here

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@ 18-20

[CarvingScooby]

Anyone can help? Sorry that's only pixs I have, board not mine.

Many thanks in advance,
RT

[Willow 15]

4x4 and Hangl, should also have Vist inserts.

[CarvingScooby]

This board has 6 holes perside straight line
For Vist? --> No Centre holes?
I know:
The 3 screws per bracket => 6 holes perside triangle shape - Older Version
The 2 screws per bracket => 4 holes perside Newer version, seen alot on Black Top KST

Thanks
RT

[ShortcutToMoncton]

@ 18-20

Some serious freecarving there! None of this "carving back up the fall line because I can't handle the speed" B.S.....


greg

[BlueB]

This board has 6 holes perside straight line
The 3 screws per bracket => 6 holes perside triangle shape - Older Version
The 2 screws per bracket => 4 holes perside Newer version, seen alot on Black Top KST

These seem to be for the new, 2-hole bracket, allowing for entire setup to be mounterd further forward or back? Same idea as the multiple inserts for standard bindings...

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[Michael Pukas]

The latest f/ Tyler's channel on plate development.

OT - what boots is he riding?

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The development train is moving down the track at top speed!!
Tinkler "Top Plate" that was made a month or so ago.

[BlueB]

Just a quick crop from the vid, for those who wouldn't believe the long front extensions had dampener below. I'm shure that Apex has something similar, if not a big chunk of neoprene that I speculated before...

[Michael Pukas]

Michael. did the embed not work?

worked for me when not logged in...

here's the link to c&p
http://www.youtube.com/user/jewellty.../1/wcoZPniRa4c

[bobdea]

These seem to be for the new, 2-hole bracket, allowing for entire setup to be mounterd further forward or back? Same idea as the multiple inserts for standard bindings...

guessing regular and goofy hangls with the original brackets a single pack for that setup is indeed 2 holes unless you use ski screws then I'd use all the holes for the bracket

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Very early device built by Mike Tinkler.

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Some of the boards with combination systems of TNT Boards + Plates and Snow Stix = Sweet ride.