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    Pulled muscle now a bruise?

    So last weekend (Sat) I bailed in such amanner worthy of an Oscar in some of the fluffy fluff and pulled a muscle in my arm. I think it runs under the bicept from armpit to elbow...possibly one of the tricepts. Anyway, it hurt like a typical pulled muscle or a real bad cramp. Rode the rest of the day and was still able to use it but raising my arm over myhead took a few minutes. It's feeling better...a lot better now but today I noticed a bruise from armpit to elbow in the same area of the origional pain. I have never pulled a muscle this bad and am not sure if I need to see a doc about this. I know there are a few around here (I think) that may be able to help with some advice.

    Here is a pic with link to larger image (click pic):The area outlined is the bruised area.


    any suggestions? I've tried ice but should I see my Doc?

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    Takes blood from a rip a while (few days) to trickle down to the skin with gravity to become visible. Make it go away by standing on your head. But you can't diagnose anything over the internet so when in doubt see a real doc!!!
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    Attempting to give a damn...

    Unable to give a damn. Stopping.

    Like the doc said, see a doc. A message presented by your local medical professionals' lobby.

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    I'm not a doctor but I work with high performance sports team and we encouter, pulls, bruises frequently.

    My best advice is You need continue icing (15 min max) for every hour.
    You can take some Advil - motrin or if you have access to anti inflamatory it might help you.

    If you have access to an Hyper baric chamber you'll be able to get make the swelling go away faster

    Other wise you can go with this simple principle.
    I : ice
    C : Compression (start elastic wrap from elbow toward shoulder) Don't keep the compression at night.
    E : Elevation

    I hope this helps. Seeing a doctor is a good idea. Unless it's like here in Quebec where you have to wait 6-10 hours at the emergency. You probably know your body best, if you say it's unlike anything you've had before I would consult for sure.

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    You forgot the R... It should be RICE.. Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation. Don't forget to NOT use your arm cause you don't want to keep tearing it..

    If you ask me (not a doctor), go to the docs if you're concerned (which I guess you are), but there isn't really much you can do for a pulled muscle besides the RICE thing. Maybe they'd give you some pain killers/anti-inflammatories or whatever, maybe a sling..

    So since you're concerned, we can't really tell you anything you don't already know, so go to the docs to get it checked out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pebu
    You forgot the R... It should be RICE.. Rest, Ice, Compression and Elevation.
    You also forgot the B.... It should be BRICE... Beer, Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation.

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    Right. The beer is crucial. Though some say aspirin (blood-thinner) and alcohol (another blood thinner) don't go well together. But I say screw 'em.
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    beer and anti inflamatory are just amazing together !
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    I would follow the ice and add the “BR” suggestions if you want.

    The only thing that I would do at this point is to see sports medicine therapist to get any and all exercises that would help in speeding the recovery of the mussel. This person should be able to evaluate the injury and let you know whether or not you need to see a physician. This should make it easier and quicker to get it back into shape. Some of the exercises at this point will most likely be very minimal and maybe even seem stupid, but do not underestimate them. All recovery starts with small steps.
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    Get a Sense of Humour Ernie

    csquared: if you don't have anything intelligent to add don't waste your time posting.

    I'm only making of fun of his avatar.

    However, I agree with you: a trip to the doctor in Quebec can be a long and unproductive experience.

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    I did too!!!

    I pulled a muscle in the shower today!!

    bout a hundred times!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by csquared
    I'm only making of fun of his avatar.

    However, I agree with you: a trip to the doctor in Quebec can be a long and unproductive experience.
    C2,

    I have all Avitars turned off on my login profile, so I don't have to look at his annoying "give a damn" avitar or DSub's bumfight's guy or Shed disturbing skull guy.

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    p.s. Shred, my BOL friend read your comment above and can't stop laughing
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    thanks everyone for the advice...and some of the info I could hav edone without...Shred.


    i think I'll see my doc tomorrow. It doesn't hurt any more but I had never had a muslcle pull/strain that ended up this way. Anyway sorry if my avatar offends...I actually do give a damn.

    Well sometimes Ido.

    J
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    I did the same exact thing with same bruising except mine turned a multitude of shades of blues and purples from the blood and then my arm started to swell. Mine was a forward fall into powder with arms pulled up and back over my head.

    The doc said don't use your arm, charged me 45 for a sling that was made in china for 12 cents and wouldn't even prescribe hydrocodone.
    Every time I flexed my arm, apparently I was pumping more blood into my arm.

    for soft tissue damage the doc can tell what it may be, but I think the sports therapist route would be better, unless there is serious pain and it does not go away in a week or two.

    Or go to massage parlor with happy ending so you don't have to do the Shred thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrobb
    Anyway sorry if my avatar offends...I actually do give a damn.

    Well sometimes Ido.

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    Don't worry about it. You have one of the best avatars in the forum.
    The older I get, the longer it hurts.

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    RICE is a good start


    You can also do a search for a practitionerin your area ,usually a sports med type, that uses a KINESIO taping technique.

    you can check out the tape website on line its fantastic stuff designed to speed lymph flow and provide proprioceptive input that is lacking in the damaged muscle. It will pull out the bruise quickly and provide support for the muscle while it heals. IT is very flexible and waterproof you can wear it for a week and not know it is there. It isn't latex based so no itch and irrritation. Fairly new to this continent originated in Japan.

    I have been using it now for just a few weeks and have been amazed with the results in my patients.

    Kinesiotaping.com

    here are a couple from quebec that are certified to use it



    Trois-Rivie’res

    Josee Matteau, OT, CKTP



    Val-des-Monts

    Judy Stanfield, PT, CKTP
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    kinesio taping in CA

    here is a few from CA since I have no idea where san pablo is
    Fresno Area
    Colette Jewell, OT, CHT, CKTP

    Nicky leRoex, OTR/L, CHT, CKTP



    Los Angeles Area

    Amber Fitchew, MPT, CKTP

    Christian Barney, DC, CKTP

    Cindy Bailey, DPT, ATC, CKTP

    Clare Frank, DPT, MS, OCS, FAAOMPT, CKTP

    Janey Lee, DPT, CKTP

    Mariko Edwards, MPT, CKTP

    Sharon Goldman-Salach, PT, CKTP

    Stephen Iversen, DC, CKTP

    Wendy Burke, DPT, OCS, CKTP



    Novato

    Robert Brandon, MPT, ATC, CKTP



    Oxnard

    George Toth-Fejel, OTR, CKTP



    Sacramento

    Justin Lau, DC, CKTP

    Piotr Serek, PT, CKTP



    San Diego

    Corey Lichtman, DC, CKTP

    Victor Runco, DC, CKTP



    San Francisco Area

    Debra Bleemer, DC, CKTP

    Julia Winter, DC, ATC, CKTP



    Santa Barbara

    Victor Chakarian, PhD, CKTP

    Marsha McIntire, PT, CKTP



    San Jose Area

    Abigail Vicencio, RPT, CKTP

    Helen Tong, MA, OTR/L, CKTP

    Jeffrey B. Lease, DC, OME, CKTP

    Karen Woodbeck, ATC, PT, OCS, CKTP



    Torrance

    Koji Uemura, DC, CKTP



    Turlock

    Jeff Walker, PTA, CKTP



    Westlake Village

    Johanna Deckert, PT, CHT, CKTP





    Aimee Antonio, PT, CKTP

    Alexandra Nuttall-Smith, PT, ATC, CKTP

    Alice Moroney, ORT/L, CEAS, CKTP

    Allegra Osborne, OTR/L, CKTP

    Andreana Mevoli, DC, CKTP

    Angela Sayour, PT, CKTP

    Angela Tognoni, PT, CKTP

    Antonio Ambrosio, Jr., PT, CKTP

    Brent Waterman, DC, CKTP

    Carrie Manny, MA, OTR/L, CKTP

    Cate Charlton, DC, CKTP

    Cathy Do, DC, CKTP

    Dave Salzer, PTA, MA, ATC, CKTP

    David M Bennett, DC, CKTP

    David Schlut, DC, CKTP

    Dean Silverstre, DC, CKTP

    Eileen Marie Coyle, PTA, CKTP

    Eileen Marie Coyle, PTA, CKTP

    Elga Oliveros, PT, CKTP

    Emily Fine, PTA, CKTP

    Franklin Cordero, PT, CKTP

    Fred R. Valeo, PT, CKTP

    Gene Caligari, PTA, CKTP

    Jay Kunard, DC, CKTP

    Jeanine Jensen, CKTP

    Jeanine Johnson-Caloudes, OT, CKTP

    Jessica Corkill, DC, CKTP

    Joe Aguirre, PTA, CKTP

    Joette Porteous, OTR/L, CKTP

    Jonart R Rosal, PT, CKTP

    Julie Bergmann, PT, CKTP

    Kathryn Wanek, PT, CKTP

    Kay Slutsky, OTR/L, CKTP

    Kelley Wung, DCS, CKTP

    Kenneth Dewart, MPT, CKTP

    Kristen Brandt, OTR, CKTP

    Krystl Armen, OT, CKTP

    Kyli Shelley, DCS, CKTP

    Lang Ngov, PT, CKTP

    Laurel Johnson, CKTP

    Lea Loveless, MPT, CKTP

    Livnat Wilcox, CKTP

    Magdalena Pertoldova, PT, CKTP

    Manuel Ernesto Valle, DC, CKTP

    Mary Jane Lowenthal, PT, CKTP

    Monica Hanny, PT, CKTP

    Nancy Dilger, PT, CKTP

    Pei-Ling Shaw, RN, CKTP

    Ranvir Sandhu, CKTP

    Raymon Tyler Johnson, DC, CKTP

    Rennie Lee, PT, CKTP

    Rodney Carreon, PTA, CKTP

    Rosalie Frankel, CKTP

    Scott Rezac, DPT, CKTP

    Shakespeare Ngo, PT, CKTP

    Sheila Wong, OT, CHT, CKTP

    Sherry Eakins, PT, CKTP

    Staci Cay, COTA/L, CKTP

    Steven Steinberg, PTA, DC, CKTP

    Ya-Yuan Cheng, DCS, CKTP

    Yuriko I. Wong, OTR/L, CHT, CKTP

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    thanks Dr. I'll look into it. I've an appt. tomorrow before work. I'll see what my doc thinks.

    SanPablo is in the SF Bayarea just N of Richmond/San Rafael bridge.

    San Pablo

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    just went to the web site, these are really funky tape jobs. I'll keep my eye on them for my team.
    Ernie

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    I have been wearing the basic knee technique myself with great results. ITs two pieces of tape and I don't even feel them. They wear for a week in and out of the shower wet dray sweaty etc no problem and the knee aches are non existent.

    the best part is total mobility and very little tape so quick application and long wear.
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    do you do the tape job yourself?
    Ernie

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    yes its relatively easy on applications you can reach. I have taped my own shoulder as well and needed a hand from the wife to hold an end etc. knees are easy to apply and you can pick up the technique of off a one or two sheet paper with pics.

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