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zoltan
January 9th, 2006, 03:20 PM
I'm looking for my first plate binding, and I found these. They have an aluminum base plate, and the price is definitely right at $100, but I haven't been able to find much information about these. I only weigh 150 so I don't think stiffness would be too much of an issue. Opinions?

http://www.korossy.org/pictures/snowpro.jpg

scotts.Scheinman
January 9th, 2006, 03:40 PM
Call Dan Yoja www.upzboots.com there is a number there

D-Sub
January 9th, 2006, 04:18 PM
no, dont call dan yoja unless youre going to buy from him. using retailers as a source of info and then buying 2nd hand is not cool

gdboytyler
January 9th, 2006, 04:26 PM
Check out these:

ProFlex on EBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/Proflex-freecarve-bindings-brandnew_W0QQitemZ7210412697QQcategoryZ101731QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem)

I bought the exact same bindings from the same seller($49 delivered). The ProFlex are older versions of the F2 bindings.

The ProFlex are easy to set up, flexy and the rear bail stays up when you want it to. The ProFlex comes with a removable cant wedge.

My only complaint was that regular shipping took 40 days! If you want the bindings right away, you might want to opt for air shipment.

I think those Snowpro Force bindings have a 3 deg cant set into the binding. You can't adjust the cant.

tufty
January 10th, 2006, 12:03 AM
I think those Snowpro Force bindings have a 3 deg cant set into the binding. You can't adjust the cant.

Not sure about built in cant, I have an older set of snowpro race bindings (picked up unused for 10€ harharhar) that are flat, but I have heard talk of built in cant on some of the newer bindings.

Cant and lift adjustment is a question of unscrewing the entire toe and / or heel assembly and shimming using either the supplied shims or bits of cutting board (with appropriately longer bolts as necessary). It's not too hard.

Simon

tufty
January 10th, 2006, 12:10 AM
I should probably add, and the forum won't let me edit,

Construction for the 'Force' model is the same as for the 'race' bindings as opposed to the current range 'base' model which is one-part moulded and non-adjustable.

That said, proflex bindings are going cheap as chips these days, 100 bucks for a pair of low-range snowpros is too much. It's maybe worth it for a pair or recent 'race' bindings, they have beefier bales (6mm as opposed to 5 or 5.5).

Simon

NateW
January 10th, 2006, 12:49 AM
The binding-to-board mounting design looks pretty similar to some Nitro bindings I had a while back. Do you know what's under that top disc? Mine just had one lone of metal crossing a circular void in the bottom plate of the bindings. That's not so good. Yours may be mostly solid, with curved grooves cut for the mounting bolts to pass through.

With the mine, the base suction index (yay I get to use BSI in a sentence) was really bad. Tightening the bolts pulls the board up into the void underneat that top plate. I ended up carving out the bottom plate a bit, so I could fit a stack of washers under each bolt. That kept the base suck down to normal levels. All the washers made the mounting process pretty tedious though.

nils
January 10th, 2006, 01:06 AM
know nothing about the " force" but am riding the "race" which is pretty similar on my powder boards : light and reliable bindings. I like them. Dampening could be better, but since its a 12-13 year old binding concept, i find it pretty nice.

N.

tufty
January 10th, 2006, 01:32 AM
The binding-to-board mounting design looks pretty similar to some Nitro bindings I had a while back. Do you know what's under that top disc? Mine just had one lone of metal crossing a circular void in the bottom plate of the bindings. That's not so good. Yours may be mostly solid, with curved grooves cut for the mounting bolts to pass through.

Not sure about the newer ones, but mine are 3-part. There's a square mounting plate that bolts to the board with the usual set of mounting holes, needs short beveled m6 bolts with washers, kinda like a freeride binding. The 'base' plate mounts on that, it has a completely cut out circle that sits on a lip on the mounting plate, then the circular angle disk sits on top, also holding the 'base' plate in position. Basically, you set the stance position with the mounting plate, then the binding angle is set independently using the circular plate on top.

crapscii(tm) graphics required, I think...



angle -===T============T===-
binding =========-- | | --==================
mount ---===+=T========T=+===---
-----------------------+--------+-------------------------
board | |
----------------------------------------------------------


Which sort of explains it. Maybe. There's various rubber dampers in there, too, but as noted, they are a kinda 'hard' bindings to ride.

SITO
January 10th, 2006, 06:07 AM
I ride with the snowpro race , nice and strong with 6mm bail.
Those are the different model produced by snowpro so you can compared.

Sito

MODEL race jr Kr. 990.-

race jr

Inserts 4x4
Bootsize 31-42
Angle 15°-60°
Stancevariation 0
Casting front/back 3° / 3°
Heelift 0
Toelift 0
Baseplate Integrated
Dampening no
Steel reinforced Bails no

MODEL race base set Kr. 990.-

race base set
Inserts 4x4
Bootsize 35-47
Angle 360°
Stancevariation 32mm
Casting front/back 3° / 3°
Heelift 0
Toelift 0
Baseplate Integrated
Dampening no
Steel reinforced Bails no

MODEL race force

race force
Inserts 4x4
Bootsize 36-47
Angle 20°-70°
Stancevariation 20mm
Casting front/back 3° / 3°
Heelift 0/6mm
Toelift 0
Baseplate Alu
Dampening no
Steel reinforced Bails no

MODEL race Kr.1.800.-
Nå Kr. 1.490.-

race
Inserts 4x4
Bootsize 35-42
Angle 20°-70°
Stancevariation 20mm
Casting front/back 0,6° / 0,6°
Heelift 0-10mm
Toelift 0/4mm
Baseplate Alu
Dampening yes
Steel reinforced Bails yes

MODEL race

race sm
Inserts 4x4
Bootsize 36-47
Angle 20°-70°
Stancevariation 20mm
Casting front/back 0,6° / 0,6°
Heelift 0-10mm
Toelift 0/4mm
Baseplate Alu
Dampening yes
Steel reinforced Bails yes