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bobdea
December 19th, 2005, 12:39 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7206044539
RDY_2_Carve
December 19th, 2005, 11:51 AM
Auction ended early...get an offer you couldn't refuse?
bobdea
December 19th, 2005, 12:17 PM
he got all my stuff
D-Sub
December 19th, 2005, 01:45 PM
Lol!!!!!!!!
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December 19th, 2005, 04:55 PM
Thanks Bob. One "Heavy" to another. Let's see if I can bend that baby??
Thanks, Bryan
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December 19th, 2005, 04:57 PM
Auction ended early...get an offer you couldn't refuse?
That would be one more Board/ Binding/ Boot set up!! :p
Yes Sir, May I have another??? :eplus2:
Does it count? It is my only Coiler ever??? :1luvu:
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December 25th, 2005, 10:23 PM
Thanks Bob, arrived safe and sound!! Scraped her and mounted a new set of Td2s on her , ready to ride!! Not to stiff , my favorite SCR , wider than I normally go, but I am thinking this might make a good soft groomer/ 2-6" pow/groomer kinda board? (http://www.oldsnowboards.com/pics/FormerlyBobD) Only concern is the low nose, ever stuff her??
Thanks again. Let you know how she behaves under a new rider, looks like you treated her well!! Thanks, Bryan
My first Coiler finally!! Curious.
bobdea
December 25th, 2005, 11:38 PM
when I first got it I was out riding a axis that I did stuff and then decided to pull that board out even though it was soft, good thing I did
I was carving full circles where snow was being made, I have had no other boards that big that I could do that on, the thing was though they were BIG circles
thats what makes that board though I think is the slightly tight SCR for that length
Loading up any coiler is fun because they are the most predictable boards I have been on, add to that how fun getting a big board to bend is and you should be in for quite the ride.
bobdea
December 25th, 2005, 11:44 PM
don't forget to give it a try on ice too, pretty good edge hold
Mike T
December 26th, 2005, 09:47 AM
Bryan - I bet it's pretty tough to stuff that Coiler even with the low nose. The noses are pretty stiff and tend to slice on through as opposed to fold. I've ridden my 188 in some pretty soft stuff and never went over the bars.
I'm very interested to hear what you think of it!
D-Sub
December 26th, 2005, 12:58 PM
wouldnt a stiff nose be conducive to "stuffing" which seems to have nothing to do with folding?
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December 26th, 2005, 06:35 PM
Bryan - I bet it's pretty tough to stuff that Coiler even with the low nose. The noses are pretty stiff and tend to slice on through as opposed to fold. I've ridden my 188 in some pretty soft stuff and never went over the bars.
I'm very interested to hear what you think of it!
Thanks Mike, I hope be checking this out very soon. When I mounted the bindings using the "Center of running length" method. I found I was forward of the mounting pattern and forward of Bob's binding marks. This is pretty typical and over the years this is where I start. It can make it more sensitive to forward pressure and a couple boards have "Stuffed" on the soft as a result of "Pock" marks or holes in surface. Example, stuffed hard off "Summit" two years ago with the Rossi 190 "Race" following some of the "Boys" from Bach. Ran my bell really hard, it was an early morning fresh groomer , steep, get it before it is filled with skiers and ruts kind of run.
This Coiler nose shape is similar, however I think you have an excellent point. Give here a go shortly!! Bryan
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December 26th, 2005, 06:59 PM
don't forget to give it a try on ice too, pretty good edge hold
Hopefully I won't get that experience , however I believe you East Coasters would be qualified to comment and I appreciate knowing it CAN ride well on ice!!!
Dave- Yes, good point, the key is when the stiff board finally does stuff , it is particularly nasty :eek:
That is the reason my Tinkler has a generous nose for all conditions flexibility. However riding into lower Heather Canyon's "Half Moon" with nearly a foot of fresh wasn't what I had in mind :eplus2: File away under "Another Sutherland Scary Moment" or "Mike's School of aggressive alpine riding" or how "ripping around with an Olympian can get you into trouble" at least I came to my senses before following him into the half pipe!!!!!!!!!!! Dude!! Most impressive!!!
JoelP
December 27th, 2005, 07:14 AM
Hi Bryan,
I hope to see you soon but anyway here is some info that may help you on that Coiler.
On all my other boards, F2/Rossi/Doneks/Prior I always used the center of running edge to mount off of. On all those boards i felt I needed to be dead center to get the boards turning for my style. On the F2 and Rossi's I even felt I needed to get more nose pressure at the beginning of the turn to hook them up properly. Now on my Coilers these are the first boards I mounted based off the inserts because of info from Bruce and Dave Morgan. i never got any complete reasoning but these are the first boards that just hook in very properly for me without any additional nose pressure. It may have a lot to do with the taper since the nose hooks up a fraction earlier, I am not sure.
Also I had the pleasure once to ride 3 of Jasey's boards all on the same day and they were all the same size (length 186, width 18.5) but each was a different construction. Once I was done i could then talk to Bruce and what I found out was that the one I liked the best was a Superboard construction and that I also liked the World Cup. those 2 boards both had great turn initiation mounted off the insert location. the one I had trouble with I found out that Bruce beefed up the nose but in the end Jasey didn't like it nor did I. I had trouble initiating it without putting pressure on the nose. That board would have had to been mounted more forward but it was an experimental board at the time. he never put that style of construction into production.
I like to surf my turns with mellow edge change, not aggression, and I find the Coilers roll over into the next turn very smoothly for me without additional nose pressure. that is why I am a convert!!!! All my other boards needed me to work the nose more and i never really liked moving my body forward to initiate the turn shape.
So if anything you should give it a go in both areas (center of edge or by inserts) see what feels better for you but I would dare gamble that by mounting from inserts and just ridding the board without body movement forward or back, will put a smile on your face (as I am sure all your boards do).
The flex index should be scratched into the sidewall of the board. what is it?
My 196 is 5.8
My 195 is 6.2
My 186 is 6.4
At my 165# i would not want to go anymore than the 6.4 on the 186 and I am sure glad that the longer boards are less since i have more edge to deal with. I rode the 195 (Split tail) today and with the 15 SCR it seems to amaze me that I can do anything from short to long radius turns with complete confidence and in traffic with such a long board.
have fun
See you soon, Joel
Mike T
December 27th, 2005, 09:02 AM
I too usually mount centered on sidecut, but with Coilers tend to mount centered on inserts. I had simply noticed that my turns had a nicer finish with the setback. Yeah, these boards are amazingly easy edge-to-edge. PR stiffnesses - 195 pounds: 188 - 6.6; 184 - 6.7. Oh, and even though we don't get ice all that oftyen out here in OR, it *does* happen from time to time and on a Coiler I don't find myself looking for a way around it :biggthump
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December 28th, 2005, 12:31 AM
Wow!! Thanks for your very complete and thought out comments Joel. Much appreciated. I am short of time, however I wanted to say thank you for taking the time to explain the Coiler method. Very helpful. Thank you!!
Yes, hope to see you folks again soon!! We sure appreciated your incredible hospitality!! Thanks again >Bryan
bobdea
January 8th, 2006, 10:46 PM
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