plates in the park

[willywhit]

Yesterday Big K. Burton Canyon 181 with Physics bindings and race boots.

[tex1230]

you da man WW :biggthump :lol:

[ar(angel]

you've got skills dude.... :D

Paul

[Hopscotch]

How does your base look?

[dano]

Oh, ye doin' a might bit of mucky to yer base, ya twit! Do ya need more splinters in yer arse?

Old Willars dot tisn't. 'Tis surely a mate o' his, for he's a sight too wee!

Damn your eyes! I've lost me damn drink agin!

[bobdea]

you sound like begbie from the irvine welsh books.

[alpinegirl]

doesn't count until you do it on a skinny stick! ;)

[NMU Alpine Boarder]

doesn't count until you do it on a skinny stick! ;)Like this:

http://tinypic.com/igesur.jpg

[D-Sub]

LOL you just cant WAIT to drop that photo can you! :lol:

sorry guys, but it just doesnt look "right" or "stylish"

are we tryin to prove somethin here? hell...seen the pic of OCD launchin? Id like to see that one full size

any of you rail riders ever try an actual railslide instead of a 50-50? Seems like would be really funky with 50+ angles...

wish I had photos of me slidin rainbows in steamboat, or the time I slipped off a 50-50 on a tree, nailed my shin, caught my armpit, flipped around and dropped about 8' onto my HEAD. THAT looked slick ;)

[bobdea]

D-sub, I have tried to slide alpine decks on a angle, its a bitch, even if you make the slide getting the board straight for the landing is next to impossible at least for me.
I have aired out the skinny stuff plenty though, I quit that a few springs ago, came up short trying to gap a patch of mud and got all messed up.
made it the first couple time though.
that reminds me Burton boots make this loud clunk when you land hard, I used to love that sound.

[LeeW]

well, nothing sure beat that photo of jeff greenwood popping out of the halfpipe in full race gear.

[Jim Callen]

Railslides aren't a pain in the ass because of the angles. Good jibbing is one of the hardest things to do in alpine gear, because you have minimal ankle flexion, which is necessary to to freestyle. Plus the super-sharp edges tend to catch really easy.

[wavechaser]

This can only lead to jibbers on the race course! ;)

[sheffy]

Why would you want to jib in hard boots anyways---leave that for the kiddies :lol: just destroys your gear!!

[Skwalleur]

Why would you want to jib in hard boots anyways---leave that for the kiddies :lol: just destroys your gear!!

Sound like my favourite slogan fits right in
http://i12.ebayimg.com/03/i/05/5d/e1/0e_1_b.JPG

[Phil]

Why would you want to jib in hard boots anyways---leave that for the kiddies :lol: just destroys your gear!!

The 50/50's seen above won't do anything to your gear unless there are burs on the rails. A boardslide only messes up your board if you don't keep it flat. Of course, on plates, it is much more difficult to keep it flat, so you may mess up your board that way.

[D-Sub]

Why would you want to jib in hard boots anyways---leave that for the kiddies :lol: just destroys your gear!!

maybe to some it is fun, and a challenge. some ex skaters that want to do railslides?

Lee...while you might be right about one part of your answer, I gotta disagree...50* + angles _do_ make it quite difficult to do regular railslides

[Bordy]

If you are to worried about you gear to go slide rails then why go snowboarding?

Rails are fun.. I was just out sliding my race day kessler the other day....

Boardslides are great also!

What if you are a kid that rides hardboots!

[LeeW]

maybe to some it is fun, and a challenge. some ex skaters that want to do railslides?

Lee...while you might be right about one part of your answer, I gotta disagree...50* + angles _do_ make it quite difficult to do regular railslides

I think you got the wrong poster ?

[toddflyingdog]

I'll stick to carving on the snow....

aren't rails just designed to sell more snowboards?

[D-Sub]

I think you got the wrong poster ?

sorry Lee..it was Jim Callen :) my bad.

[trikerdad]

Just my 2 cents but, I think a lot of the jibbing stops when Mom quits footing the bill for new boards.

[D-Sub]

Just my 2 cents but, I think a lot of the jibbing stops when Mom quits footing the bill for new boards.

and medical :)

[Phil]

Just my 2 cents but, I think a lot of the jibbing stops when Mom quits footing the bill for new boards.

and medical :)

I think that the whole park thing is really misunderstood. Fifteen years ago, the above comments would have been made by skiers talking about snowboarding (take out jibbing and insert snowboarding). You guys sound like a bunch of old phart skiers in 1988 talking about snowboarders.

Rails, like anything else on a board can be taught safely. I have taught many middle aged people (both men and women) how to ride rails. I taught one forty something mother of two how to ride rails and she rides them better than her teenage sons.

The myth that rails trash boards is just that - and it seems to be perpetuated by those who do not ride rails (or do not ride them well). I ride rails almost every day - why? because they are there. If you look at my race boards, you will find no damage whatsoever. For that matter, if you look at my FS or FR boards, you won't either.

At most, someone may trash a board learning to ride them if they are not taught well, but once you learn the right way, it does no damage to the board.

As far as Mom paying the bills - I started riding in the late '80s and my parents never paid for a board. I worked for the money to buy all my own boards. Then I took them to the local parks when it snowed and I rode the handrails. I also never took advantage of their insurance for doing so. Thousands of rails later, I still have yet to damage a board.

This is the new face of snowboarding. Fifteen years from now, it will not even be questioned. If you are not going to do rails yourself - no problem, but try to embrace the diversity that is snowboarding. Better yet, embrace that diversity on hardboots.:biggthump

[trikerdad]

I am an "old phart" (60) and proud of it. I know that a lot of the jibbing is okay and the park obstacles don't damage a board (too much). But over the years, before resorts started setting up terrain parks, I saw too many kids "hitting" rocks and other obstacles that made me shudder at what it was doing to their boards and knowing for a fact that their parents bought their boards.

[Phil]

But over the years, before resorts started setting up terrain parks, I saw too many kids "hitting" rocks and other obstacles that made me shudder at what it was doing to their boards and knowing for a fact that their parents bought their boards.

Yeah, I never got into the rock thing, but I used to love trees and tree stumps. I see your point. Again, my parents never bought me a board - that is why my boards never got jibbed on rocks.:eek:

BTW, every year when I hire the new crop of snowboard instructors, I feel like an old phart myself and I am only 30 (or for some, I am that old guy who is already 30).

[Justin A.]

Silly Jibbers, trix are for kids!
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Trichomes pictures (http://trichomes.org)

[Neil Gendzwill]

This is the new face of snowboarding. Fifteen years from now, it will not even be questioned. If you are not going to do rails yourself - no problem, but try to embrace the diversity that is snowboarding. Better yet, embrace that diversity on hardboots.
Bah. Humbug. You've got a whole mountain to play on, why waste time trying to pretend you're riding a skateboard?

[Mike T]

Bah. Humbug. You've got a whole mountain to play on, why waste time trying to pretend you're riding a skateboard?

I spent enough time on rails to learn how to boardslide in softies, several years back... and got bored. Not my cup of tea at all. I'm with Neil - much more func to be had while at the mountain!

[Fleaman]

You have to give the Jibbers credit though, they stay in the park and hit a feature then walk back up and hit it again. How many of us carved a pitch, stopped at the bottom then walked back up to do it again because the lift is too slow.

Also if those foul mouthed kids littered the whole mountain it would be no different than walking downtown a big city with bums and all the stuff we dont like to see. :D They would line the sides or middle of cat tracks while they toke up and talk about how cool they are !

:eplus2:

[Phil]

Bah. Humbug. You've got a whole mountain to play on, why waste time trying to pretend you're riding a skateboard?

For me, I do play on the whole mountain, both at home and anywhere else I go. I enjoy jumping way more than rails. If you are going to hit the jumps, you have to go into the park. If I have to go into the park, I am going to hit the rails on the way to the jumps.

Rails ARE my cup of tea.

Pretend I am on a skateboard? If you read my post above, I talked about sliding handrails back in the day. I never did that on a skateboard - straight to a snowboard for me. I only take lifts now - so you will not find me hiking at the local parks. I think that it is great that they have man made features like this that are lift accessed. I hate hiking when there is a lift. The only time that you will ever find me hiking is if I am teaching rails.

Anywho, these are just my opinions. They are stronger because I like rails. I can't figure out why those of you who do not ride rails have such strong opinions against them.:confused: What does it matter to you?

[D-Sub]

If you are going to hit the jumps, you have to go into the park.

huh? there are plenty of opportunities for airs outside the park...

I got no beef with rails...cant see why anyone would really...although its kinda sad that that aspect is all most folks know of snowboarding

Id rather do em on a skateboard, too, but...cant anymore.

[Phil]

huh? there are plenty of opportunities for airs outside the park....

That's true - I guess that I was thinking more along the lines of hitting 40 - 60' step downs, tabletops, etc. Those are usually only found in the parks. Natural hits as we all know are great as well.


I got no beef with rails...cant see why anyone would really...although its kinda sad that that aspect is all most folks know of snowboarding.

That's one of the reasons why we ride plates right - public education happens with every run!

I could never do handrails on a skateboard. I guess that I did not stick with it long enough.

[Chubz]

Plenty of discussion on rails,etc, but just wondering if alpine boards and HB's are used frequently for big mountain riding. I rode my Axis 182 in about 12" of fresh last year and it floated great and was an absolute blast. One of my funnest days in HB's.

I would have loved to have been getting dropped off at the top of an untracked snow field and letting it rip. I know, swallowtails are how many ppl go if they are in HB's in pow, but is anyone pushing it in HB's in a direction to what Jenremy Jones is doing on a big mountain/freestyle board?

Just wondering.

[tex1230]

I'm not comparing myself to JJones by any means - but I used to drop some big lines in tahoe backcountry (Donner Summit) on my lib tech Doughboy with Fritschi plates and Raichle Snowboarders way back in the early '90s - I always liked the hard boots in he backcountry for kicking steps into the steep windpack.
I'm not sure if modern backcountry guys are using the hard boots though.

[Neil Gendzwill]

Tom Burt did it all on hardboots.

But back to rails - if it's your thing, fine. But I see so many kids who come from a skateboarding backround and all they want to do is their skate tricks on their snowboard. They can't turn a skateboard or a snowboard but get them on a rail and they're doing great. I think they're missing out. I can understand hiking the park at your local little hill, but when I see them doing it at Lake Louise??? Madness.

[LeeW]

I'm not comparing myself to JJones by any means - but I used to drop some big lines in tahoe backcountry (Donner Summit) on my lib tech Doughboy with Fritschi plates and Raichle Snowboarders way back in the early '90s - I always liked the hard boots in he backcountry for kicking steps into the steep windpack.
I'm not sure if modern backcountry guys are using the hard boots though.

Aw, dude. you got mad skillz and respect from me for riding plates on those doughboy. got my eyes on madd 170 or grocer 180. i may order a doughboy from lib tech since its their last year to manufacture in seattle.

[marz]

WHAT!! Are they going Chinese too?! Say it ain't so :eek:

[Jon Dahl]

fair amount of hardcore splitters use A/T boots in the backcountry. I use a old pair of 123's myself. Big mountain high altitude riders are exclusively using plastic of some sort.

[LeeW]

WHAT!! Are they going Chinese too?! Say it ain't so :eek:

Naw. Gonna keep the one a-tuggin' out in port angeles, wa. originally gnu factory but now merged with libtech and possibly rossignol. still making in USA! (one of the reason why i endorse this factory plus alma matter).