View Full Version : Topsheet Protection from Bindings. 3M Paint Protection Film
Linus
November 7th, 2005, 08:24 AM
I'm getting my Coiler soon :biggthump (at least that's what Bruce told me) and I'll be using my TD1 on the board. Previously, I did notice that my boards had bad markings from the disks :nono: . I want to avoid the damage and thought about putting 3M Paint Protection Film under the bindings. Will it change the characteristics of the board or bindings? And also will this lead to an equipment failure?
Has anyone done this?
ncermak
November 7th, 2005, 09:34 AM
check with D Sub...
I remember he had some sort of a film on his coiler last year! :AR15firin :flamethro
rugger
November 7th, 2005, 09:37 AM
Check with Sean Martin, he had some protective sheets made for the TD1.
Better yet, call Fin and get the TD2.
Linus
November 7th, 2005, 09:43 AM
Check with Sean Martin, he had some protective sheets made for the TD1.
Better yet, call Fin and get the TD2.
I wish...Can't afford TD2 :o :o TD2 costs little under $450CND :eek: ....
bobdea
November 7th, 2005, 01:00 PM
I would think its more like 340?
Linus
November 7th, 2005, 01:04 PM
I would think its more like 340?
If you add shipping :eek: , customs :eek: and taxes :eek: it's going to be around 450 but I think If you buy from yyzcanuck.com, it's going to be little under that.
ARCrider
November 7th, 2005, 02:14 PM
I just left the protective cover sheet on my AM. gives the orange flames a matte finish. I like it but when I did some runs with Bruce at SES he asked me why I still had it on.
trikerdad
November 7th, 2005, 02:28 PM
You can always leave the protective film that comes on the board but some would say the graphics are kind of blah like that. ;)
D-Sub
November 7th, 2005, 02:31 PM
I just left the protective cover sheet on my AM. gives the orange flames a matte finish. I like it but when I did some runs with Bruce at SES he asked me why I still had it on.
exactly what noah is STILL giving me **** for
it WAS funny as heck, about 15 times ago:)
anyway, to the OP...check on ebay for "sign vinyl" or "plotter vinyl"
you can get it in clear or any variety of colors and textures
skategoat
November 7th, 2005, 02:48 PM
Do what I did - cut out a piece of inner tube. Just use the discs for templates. Cheap and effective.
trikerdad
November 7th, 2005, 02:53 PM
Sorry Dave, I know it's gotten old to you but the rest of us still get a chuckle out of it.
Gecko
November 7th, 2005, 02:56 PM
Sorry Dave, I know it's gotten old to you but the rest of us still get a chuckle out of it.
Gotta agree on this one...you were soooo public about your displeasure that it made an impression with all of us
D-Sub
November 7th, 2005, 03:01 PM
Sorry Dave, I know it's gotten old to you but the rest of us still get a chuckle out of it.
well, actually...I still giggle about it, too.
gosh Gecko...was I that bad? I only remember bein all "wtf" but simply didnt realize. Ive never ever seen a board ship with a protective topsheet like that. not once...
and Im not the only one that's ever made the mistake
ok...keep laughing
Gecko
November 7th, 2005, 04:40 PM
its just so significant in the mythos of bomberonline...
D-Sub
November 7th, 2005, 04:46 PM
its just so significant in the mythos of bomberonline...
heh. no crap, huh. probably the all-time biggest goof!
BobD
November 7th, 2005, 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by ARCrider
I just left the protective cover sheet on my AM. gives the orange flames a matte finish. I like it but when I did some runs with Bruce at SES he asked me why I still had it on.
Years ago people used to put plastic covers on thier car seats to protect that new look, for when they sold the car. In the mean time driving must have been a misery. Life's too short, enjoy the graphics youself.
Although, on the other hand, you sound like someone to buy a board from.
BobD
Randy S.
November 7th, 2005, 06:26 PM
I bet the 3M paint protection film would be great to put on boards. It certainly works famously on cars. I have it on my headlight lenses and it is amazing. 4 windshields later and I still haven't broken or scratched a headlight lens.
Plus the 3M film won't look dull like D-Sub's board did! It will also protect the topsheet from scratches when a-holes run over your board. However, I doubt it will really protect from your old Bomber bindings. For that you probably want a slightly thicker, and more sturdy piece of something. As mentioned above, Sean Martin at Donek used to have some. I had a set, but gave them away a couple of years ago. They were like a think piece of p-tex cut to the same dimensions as the base plate. I bet someone here still has a pair floating around they could mail you.
Mark Brown
November 7th, 2005, 06:29 PM
If you add shipping :eek: , customs :eek: and taxes :eek: it's going to be around 450 but I think If you buy from yyzcanuck.com, it's going to be little under that.
Talk to Dave at yyzcanuck (http://www.yyzcanuck.com). He has the TD2s listed at $365CND. Not sure what the shipping charges will be from Toronto to Waterloo...
ARCrider
November 7th, 2005, 07:39 PM
Years ago people used to put plastic covers on thier car seats to protect that new look, for when they sold the car. In the mean time driving must have been a misery. Life's too short, enjoy the graphics youself.
Although, on the other hand, you sound like someone to buy a board from.
BobD
As I said. I like it. there's plenty of coilers at my ski club(at least 15 maybe more) but mine has a different look. I've also taken a permanent marker and doodled on the cover sheet to personalize it further. Can't see myself ever doodling on the permanent finish below. I'd say offhand there would be 50 or 60 alpine riders at my little hill so a little custom artwork helps me identify my stick.
and I don't think you'd want my board when I'm done with it unless you only want to peel off the cover and hang it on the wall. It's got 100+ days on it now and I'm hoping to put another 100 on it this winter.
Linus
November 7th, 2005, 09:36 PM
Do what I did - cut out a piece of inner tube. Just use the discs for templates. Cheap and effective.
Should I use 700c or 650c??? :D :D :D I guess roadie tubes are not large enough to cover the disk area. Maybe one of those huge mountain bike inner tubes will do. Thank you. I'll try that. Did you also put a layer for the bumpers as well?
anyway, to the OP...check on ebay for "sign vinyl" or "plotter vinyl"
you can get it in clear or any variety of colors and textures
Also a great alternative because I just find out that 3M film 18"x3' costs 30+20 dollars shipping :mad: :mad:
MozzMann
November 8th, 2005, 01:43 AM
To be perfectly honest , Why bother !! :cool: Now before you all go off at me , I'll tell you why I say this.
I have found that the worst damage I have recieved is in the lift line (especially in Australia) with jerks on 2 planks :( and those bloody pole things that they need to get around, :rolleyes: (lazy git's , need to learn how to go faster :p ) They should be :AR15firin . before being lured to the dark side.
Collisions with other Boards and Ski edges will mark the top Sheet far more than your bindings, this of course leads to :argue: and sometimes :boxing_sm
Now all that aside get your self a Roll of Clear stickon film and cover the complete top Sheet. When it gets marked remove it and put a new one on.
Hope this helps
ncermak
November 8th, 2005, 04:32 AM
sorry dave...it was just too easy
admit it...you only looked at this thread to see who would be first to mention your goof...
skategoat
November 8th, 2005, 05:37 AM
Linus:
I used an ordinary bike tube and cut the pad in two pieces. Just put the two pieces under your disc, cut a small slot for the screws and push the screws through. The screws hold the rubber to the disc while you mount them. Sounds like it'll look ghetto but you don't even notice them once mounted.
Another option I thought about was roofing membrane. The stuff they use for waterproofing. You can get it in 1 or 2 mm thickness. I think it would be perfect but it comes in gigantic rolls. So the thing to do is find someone doing a roofing job and rummage through the dumpster.
The inner tube does a perfect job - absolutely no marks on the boards I have used the TD1s on. And no, I didn't bother with the bumpers. They are urethane so shouldn't marr the finish.
Henry
Linus
November 8th, 2005, 06:09 AM
The inner tube does a perfect job - absolutely no marks on the boards I have used the TD1s on. And no, I didn't bother with the bumpers. They are urethane so shouldn't marr the finish.
Henry
Thank you for your help Henry. My concern with the bumpers are not because they would damage the board......Since you put a pad under the disks, Those pads will create gaps under the bumpers. Wouldn't it be a problem?? I think if you have gaps under the bumpers, you will put a lot of stress to the inserts. :confused: :confused: :confused:
skategoat
November 8th, 2005, 07:13 AM
Na. We're talking 1 or 2 mm. here. No problemo. If you're really concerned, put a washer between the bumper and the binding plate.
Scorpio
November 8th, 2005, 08:28 AM
I've bought the discs from sean at donek to put under my TD1's. I actually never used them since I mounted different bindings to my axis but they should work. I bought them for $20 including hardware. Sean will probably have to cut some for you but they would certainly work.
SEJ
November 20th, 2005, 11:00 AM
My old Burton cants tore the hell out of the top of my FP. (The screws would occasionally loosen up.) I now cut a piece of thin rubber gasket material to match the cant plate and sandwich it between the plate and the board. No more damage.
UK2TX2CA
November 20th, 2005, 11:26 AM
I use, and highly recommend, the Dupont Surlyn tape / Skuff Saver from Tongar (http://www.tognar.com/bags.html#GST-59R) . I put it on my kids skis at the start of the season and it keeps the skis tops in great condition.
I clean the skis with wax remover while warming the film in the oven ( lowest setting with door open ) then use a vacuum bagger to apply the tape so it really fits well with no bubbles....trim with a craft knife and you are done.
Sean
November 20th, 2005, 11:52 PM
personally, although I love the graphics and all, I am more concerned wih the working end of the tool- namely, the base. Spend most of your time worrying about the upside down part of the board and you will be very happy. Anyhooo, I think you should throw the binders on the deck, skip the payments to 3M and Tognar, and ride the snot out of the Coiler. If it gets bashed, cest la vie. I used to obsess about an M3 I owned until a wise old German guy told me that high performance machines look better with a bit of real world wear to them... :ices_ange
D-Sub
November 21st, 2005, 02:16 AM
Greg Mac at Bachelor:
"it's a tool, not a jewel"
love it
D-Sub
March 24th, 2006, 09:16 PM
just an update...the "sign vinyl" I used on my board got BRITTLE and came off after ONE TURN...so I peeled it all off.
dont bother with this stuff. I dont think its designed to be in the cold.
Mr fun
March 26th, 2006, 05:12 PM
Yeah, don't bother trying to protect the entire board. When I use to race moto-cross it was best when you won with a dirty number plate!
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