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outsider
September 22nd, 2004, 05:50 AM
Minnesota Trooper Writes 205 MPH Ticket

WABASHA, Minn. (Sept. 21) - With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a motorcyclist hit the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.

On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near Wabasha, in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching two motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.

When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his stopwatch. He clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white marker on the road and again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39 seconds, which Loney calculated to be 205 mph.

"I was in total disbelief," Loney told the St. Paul Pioneer Press for Tuesday's editions. "I had to double-check my watch because in 27 years I'd never seen anything move that fast."

Several law enforcement sources told the newspaper that, although no official records are kept, it was probably the fastest ticket ever written in the state.

After about three-quarters of a mile, the biker slowed to about 100 mph and let the other cycle catch up. By then Loney had radioed ahead to another state trooper, who pulled the two over soon afterward.

The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving, driving without a motorcycle license - and driving 140 miles per hour over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.

A search of speeding tickets written by state troopers, who patrol most of the state's highways, between 1990 and February 2004 shows the next fastest ticket was for 150 mph in 1994 in Lake of the Woods County.

Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A working number for him could not immediately be found by The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000, Loney said.

Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.

"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."


09/21/04 16:39 EDT

Jack Michaud
September 22nd, 2004, 05:57 AM
No "minor modification" buys you the double-ton.

Speedzilla
September 22nd, 2004, 06:12 AM
There is no way that this rider was going 205mph.

The Honda factory superbike team reached a top speed of 195 on the mile long front straight at Brainerd this year, and they have a couple hundred thousand dollars into those machines.

BTW: The kid was on an RC51. I owned an RC51 a few years ago, and there is just no way that those speeds are possible, even with some mods.

This kid is an idiot and was surely at insane speeds, but I would be shocked if he was anywhere near 180mph.

Enzo
September 22nd, 2004, 06:16 AM
How about this one from last year....
read the entire 4 page affidavit here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/faenza1.html

SEPTEMBER 4--While we normally don't concern ourselves with speeding arrests, we're making an exception in the case of one Dr. William Faenza. The 35-year-old New York City man was arrested Sunday after Pennsylvania cops clocked his 1997 Lamborghini Diablo going a remarkable 182 mph on State Road 443 (a 55 mph zone). According to the below criminal complaint, a tipsy Faenza was not only moving at Jeff Gordon speeds, he was driving recklessly and sped away from pursuing cops. After getting stuck in traffic at about 6 PM, Faenza, a research chemist who was in the area visiting family, refused police orders to exit the blue sports car, but finally relented and "stumbled out of the vehicle." Faenza failed a field sobriety test, which cops administered after smelling booze on his breath and noting that his eyes were bloodshot. Faenza is now facing a variety of charges, including driving under the influence, resisting arrest, and reckless driving. (4 pages)

skategoat
September 22nd, 2004, 07:42 AM
I like the bit about "courting death" unless the guy was wearing protective gear. Unless the guy was encased in some kind of Nasa landing pod, he was dead no matter what he was wearing. They don't call 'em donor-cycles for nothing.

kamran
September 22nd, 2004, 07:42 AM
I had a CBR 1000 in europe and I never could get it go faster than 265 km/hr (about 164 miles/hr) on the Autobahn (it was a 94 model though). But sure enough, there were buddies who would pass me easily at that speed on their ZZR 1100 and CBR 900 RRs...
But then again,..over there it was kindda the norm, and unlike here, the cars ahead of you on the road, do look in their back mirrror constantly.

Speedzilla
September 22nd, 2004, 07:49 AM
According to Sport Rider magazine:

Honda RC51 Top Speed: 163mph
Honda 1000RR Top Speed: 175mph

It would take an insane amount of modifications/money to make the RC51 a 180mph bike.

kamran
September 22nd, 2004, 08:08 AM
Instead of questioning the abilities of the dude's bike, perhaps we should check the trooper's stopwatch accuracy and his reaction speed to clock it.
If I were the biker, I'd use the official numbers posted above to take the case to the court and get it dismissed,...just say, my bike could have never reached that speed to begin with,....

sic t 2
September 22nd, 2004, 08:24 AM
Yeah, yeah, yeah.... can't be done.

1 more tooth on a $25.00 countershaft sprocket,
select a road that runs south easterly and has a slight elevation drop on it,
wait for a Canadian high weather high to come through and put a 30 mph draft up your ass.

this is not about rules. its about going fast.

the only hard part is the cop.

Sic t 2

Speedzilla
September 22nd, 2004, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by sic t 2
Yeah, yeah, yeah.... can't be done.

1 more tooth on a $25.00 countershaft sprocket,
select a road that runs south easterly and has a slight elevation drop on it,
wait for a Canadian high weather high to come through and put a 30 mph draft up your ass.

this is not about rules. its about going fast.

the only hard part is the cop.

Sic t 2


Well, according to the gearing calculator that is listed on the ROGUE site, adding a tooth to the front will give add 12mph to your top end.

So, based off the recorded top speed test by Sport Rider of 163mph, we are now up to 175. Add another tooth (if you could even get an 18 tooth CS sprocket), and your up to 187.

The RC51 is geared so tall, that changing the gearing that dramatically would make this a bike a complete bitch to ride around town. I'm not saying it's not possible for someone to do this, but anyone in their right mind would be changing their gearing the other direction.

I know the road well, I was on it the same road on Sunday. Although there are some straight sections, the road curves along the Mississippi river, and is flooded with tourists on a nice Saturday afternoon.

There is no doubt that this kid was riding at insane speeds, but there is no way that 205 is accurate. At those speeds, the smallest error with the stopwatch will result in big differences in the speed that is calculated.

This is from another person I have discussed this with on another board:

Let's see, that's 1/(4.6 * 4)*60*60 to get mph... equals about 195 mph

If you are off by a tenth of a second you would get
1(4.7*4)*60*60... equals 191 mph

If you are off by a quarter second, you get 1(4.85*4)*60*60... equals 185 mph

sic t 2
September 22nd, 2004, 09:20 AM
Good points. I don't know the road. Never thought about the timing error over the relatively short distance of a 1/4 mile. Certainly it sounds like a bogus ticket to me now too. Well, sort of bogus. Hate to be arguing that "167 mph" was a more realistic speed to the judge.

But I don't think it takes any great effort to get a bike over 200 mph when anyone "who can change a spare tire" can bolt on a $600 nitrous kit on that that new Kawi or a Busa. Select the right conditions and you are there easily. Of course, it means absolutely nothing to a seasoned biker/racer (but that doesn't mean there are not a few thousand spodes who would give their right nut to try it).

Sic t 2

joecarve
September 22nd, 2004, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by chooblaykhan
Instead of questioning the abilities of the dude's bike, perhaps we should check the trooper's stopwatch accuracy and his reaction speed to clock it.
If I were the biker, I'd use the official numbers posted above to take the case to the court and get it dismissed,...just say, my bike could have never reached that speed to begin with,....

Really. Let's say there's a .75-sec spread between start and stop click reaction time...175mph.

Speedzilla
September 22nd, 2004, 11:37 AM
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0922042speed1.gif

Jack Michaud
September 22nd, 2004, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney
I got a ticket in ME a couple of weeks ago. Michelle was in the car, (It was her fault actually) so she can attest. The ticket was $180 for going 70 in a 55mph zone.

Friggin' Mass-holes! If it's called "tourist season", why can't we shoot them?!? Ayuh!!

Tommy D
September 22nd, 2004, 11:58 AM
Bah! Only 3 citations on the same ticket? Sheesh. He got off easy. Well, except for the arrest, of course. :rolleyes:

As opposed to the interstate speedlimits as I am, (not in having them, but in how low they are...) there is such a thing as too fast on public roads. No matter the protective gear, there would be nothing left after a crash at those speeds on open highway, not to mention the carnage if other motorists were involved.

I think it is a good argument regarding the performance parameters of the mcycle and the 'timed' speed given by the officer. However, I don't think it would be prudent to argue that in front of judge and executioner. (Proving cops wrong is never taken very well in court ...) But an attorney would know better than I.

Tommy D
September 22nd, 2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney

I got a ticket in ME a couple of weeks ago. Michelle was in the car, (It was her fault actually) so she can attest. The ticket was $180 for going 70 in a 55mph zone.

Yup. I just got $200 for 80 in a 55 in CT. My fault, definitely. :mad:

Neil Gendzwill
September 22nd, 2004, 12:14 PM
In Canada, after a certain amount over the limit you can get "driving with undue care and attention" or even "reckless endangerment". I think this guy doing near triple the speed limit would be in the "reckless endangerment" category. Seems to me jail time and lifetime license suspension are some of the possibilities.

Jon Rutherford
September 22nd, 2004, 01:11 PM
I've hit 176 on an R1. I heavily question the ability for that honda to hit 205...i'd like to see the mod list for myself.

nils
September 22nd, 2004, 01:46 PM
IF you like watching idiots risking their lives at 200 mph, just do a few research on kazaa, edonkey etc with the word getaway in the video them!
I personnaly like the norway guy doing 200 mph on a small country side road ( bike norwegian 300 kmh is the name of the file), the F-40 doing 205 mph on a english /austrialian road... but my fav is this one ( please use right click on the link, and save as...i'll remove the file from my server in a few days)
Police chases a Opel Lotus Omega ( in vain ) (http://swoard.dyndns.org/nils/fun/opelotusomega.wmv)
For those who never saw that car, it was a lotus modified Opel around 1989-1990.. Basically your everyday sedan with 400 hp..

N.

Gecko
September 22nd, 2004, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by sic t 2
But I don't think it takes any great effort to get a bike over 200 mph when anyone "who can change a spare tire" can bolt on a $600 nitrous kit on that that new Kawi or a Busa. Select the right conditions and you are there easily. Of course, it means absolutely nothing to a seasoned biker/racer (but that doesn't mean there are not a few thousand spodes who would give their right nut to try it).

Sic t 2

whoa gotta raise a flag on this one...every year a few hundred folks head over to the salt with their Kwaks/Busa's in an attempt to break the 2ton, very few make it and those that do usually have another 20K or so in the engine alone...It is extreamly difficult to ride a bike over high 180's though this has less to do with hp and more to do with stability...or so I have been told by folks who have campaigned a 2 ton bike. NOS is not the easy fix to top speed that everyone thinks it is

Chris Houghton
September 22nd, 2004, 02:28 PM
NO chance. The cop must have flinched doing the timing. Most new liter bikes are restricted below 300Kmh(180), and as a few have said already, it takes a huge amount of power (more than twice as much) to get from 180 to 200. Sure he could have been going 170 and been mistimed. Done 170 many times on my Blackbird, but 205? No chance and it is not restricted.

sic t 2
September 23rd, 2004, 04:21 AM
You guys are so funny. All these self imposed AMA rules and regulations on street riding.

Been to the Bonneville Salt flats. Salt is dangerous! Slippery, rough and you are foced to do a two way time cancelling any slope advantage (if there were one) and any wind advantage (unless you plan very well in that one hour!).

Consider, on a straight and narrow surface, with no wind our snowboards do 0 mph. Yet they can achieve over the "one ton" in the right conditions. You mean to tell me that a box stock 180+ mph motorcycle can't be coaxed to go another 20 mph when slope and wind can be selected to optimize your environment? On top that a 40 horsepower boost of nitrous is not an advantage (seemingly cause its not real horsepower or something?). Put your head in between the rollers on the dino and you'lll find out soon enough if that pull is real.

Just free yourself from the AMA rulebook. After all, those same rules will make your snowboard go 0 mph on glare ice.

$1,200 in aftermarket parts will get you the two ton on the street (sprockets, nitrous, pipe).

http://www.zx11.info/zx11/aero.htm

Sic

mirror70
September 23rd, 2004, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by Gecko
whoa gotta raise a flag on this one...every year a few hundred folks head over to the salt with their Kwaks/Busa's in an attempt to break the 2ton, very few make it and those that do usually have another 20K or so in the engine alone...It is extreamly difficult to ride a bike over high 180's though this has less to do with hp and more to do with stability...or so I have been told by folks who have campaigned a 2 ton bike. NOS is not the easy fix to top speed that everyone thinks it is

The salt flats are much much slower than pavement. Until 2000, the record for a "stock bodied" 1.5L car there was only 142mph. That class allows for unlimited engine mods as long as the body of the car is stock-looking. A completely stock 150HP Audi A4 with the limiter removed will do 142mph (yes, I know it's a slightly bigger engine, but it's also stock).

mirror70
September 23rd, 2004, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney
If you were caught in MA or anywhere in New England for that matter doing anything over 125mph, that's grounds for taking your license away for 30 days or more depending on your driving record and the area of offense.

AND, the ticket would most assuredly be WAY over $215. More like $500 to $1000. Plus bail and court fines.

That's not true.


Don't ask.

Jack Michaud
September 23rd, 2004, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by sic t 2
You mean to tell me that a box stock 180+ mph motorcycle can't be coaxed to go another 20 mph when slope and wind can be selected to optimize your environment?

Air drag increases as the square of speed. That is, if you double your speed, you quadruple your air drag. So to go from 180 to 200, you're looking at a 23% increase in air drag alone. Then there's rolling friction of the tires, and mechanical friction, all which increase with speed. A gentle slope and a tailwind aren't going to make up for all that.

Neil Gendzwill
September 23rd, 2004, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by Jack Michaud
Air drag increases as the square of speed. That is, if you double your speed, you quadruple your air drag. So to go from 180 to 200, you're looking at a 23% increase in air drag alone. Then there's rolling friction of the tires, and mechanical friction, all which increase with speed. A gentle slope and a tailwind aren't going to make up for all that.
The majority of the increased resistance is air drag. Are you saying 20 mph of tailwind isn't worth near 20 mph on the top end?

sic t 2
September 23rd, 2004, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Jack Michaud
Air drag increases as the square of speed. That is, if you double your speed, you quadruple your air drag. So to go from 180 to 200, you're looking at a 23% increase in air drag alone.

Don't ever attempt to fly an airplane. You clearly don't understand the difference between air speed and ground speed.

Sic

Jack Michaud
September 23rd, 2004, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by sic t 2
Don't ever attempt to fly an airplane. You clearly don't understand the difference between air speed and ground speed.

Sic

Ahem. Well then... sure, if you have a 20mph tailwind that never dips below 20mph, and is perfectly aligned with your direction of travel, then yes, a 180mph bike might do 200mph - neglecting the other frictions that increase with speed.

Shred Gruumer
September 23rd, 2004, 10:00 AM
Hmm.. so what is the fastest you got pulled over and let go!

Funny you asked! I don't speed,,much! Just this Sunday I was running late for a morning Tee time! hey, golf is just like snowboarding! anyway, I was going about 100 to 110 until I got close to the suburbs then was around 90,, oh yea im on a highway. I-271

it was 8:00am I figured cops were getting thier donuts for the shift change anyway so what are the odds,, I drive this road every weekend so go for it I said.

Well I saw the cop pull up behind me,, I knew it was over so I just pulled over and had my stuff ready to hand him! Hey what could I say!

Well when he said "I got ya doing 84mph in a 60" "any reason why your going this fast?"

I told him flat out,, its my moms birthday and Im late for a tee time and told him the course..

he takes my stuff goes to his car, then comes right back,, as says!

"I appreciate you bieng so honest with me, and since your so honest Im gonna let ya go! Sorry to slow ya down!" HONEST!

Then we talked about bikes and Ducatis! thats Two in one month..

the other one I tried to out run.. but he geussed correctly at a turn so he found me..

Must be the Friendly juice they been serving?

Whew! said Shred.. Can't afford it,, too much snowboard stuff to buy!

No blood no foul!

pokkis
September 23rd, 2004, 10:06 AM
Lucky that you guys are not getting speed tickets here in Finland.
Top penalty is bout 170.000 USD for driving 80km/h on 40km/h zone :)
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3477285.stm)

Neil Gendzwill
September 23rd, 2004, 10:14 AM
Yeah, I saw that one before - the Finns have an income-proportionate fine system.

sic t 2
September 23rd, 2004, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Jack Michaud
then yes, a 180mph bike might do 200mph - neglecting the other frictions that increase with speed.

Sorry to be a little abrupt in that last post Jack.

I'm glad to see that now you don't even see the need for the shot of nitrous to reach 200 mph.

Sic

Jack Michaud
September 23rd, 2004, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Shred Gruumer
Hmm.. so what is the fastest you got pulled over and let go!


85 in a 65, but that's not a very interesting story.

The interesting story is from back in my stupid newbie squid motorcyclist days - don't try this at home kids. About 6 years ago I was riding my motorcycle down a four lane (two each way) boulevard with several stop lights. I was approaching a red light in the right lane when a dude in a BMW M3 zooms past me in the left lane and comes to an abrupt halt at the light. I pulled up next to him and could tell he thought he was hot stuff in his M3. At the green light, he tore away so I decided to give chase just to let him know he wasn't the fastest/coolest/manliest guy on the road that day. Being on a bike I immediately caught up, but rather than pulling away I just stayed right with him, as if to say "I could drop you if I felt like it". This continued for the next 5 lights, at supra-legal speeds. At the 6th light, I look over and we exchange a "hang loose" hand gesture, ending the duel. I was still in the right lane but had to make a left turn. So when the light turned green I took the hole-shot and cut left in front of him.

So I'm laughing to myself in my helmet and cruising on home towards my apartment, when the siren came on. A cop had been following us the entire time. I parked the bike, took off my helmet and got out my papers. The cop read me the riot act, grabbed my stuff and went back to the car. A moment later he comes back and says "what the hell is going on here?" My registration had expired, but the sticker on my plate had not. I explained that for some reason the clerk at the DMV had given me the wrong sticker, but the cop suspected the plate was stolen. Then he pointed out that my insurance card was expired, and I explained that I had just gotten a new one in the mail and that I could bring him to my apartment around the corner to show it to him if he wanted. To which he replied that my street was across town. "Oh yeah, I just moved." I said. "How long ago?" "6 weeks." "You're supposed to change your address on your licence within 30 days - that's another fine! Don't move, I'll be right back" he said and walked back to his cruiser. A second later he comes storming back, drops all my stuff in my lap and exclaims "get out of my face before I throw the book at you!!" Apparantly he didn't want to deal with the reams of paperwork I would have required!

I know, stupid stupid stupid. Live and learn, right?

C5 Golfer
September 23rd, 2004, 01:01 PM
Why try to bash the story - accept it for what was the intent of the storyteller. Who cares if the speed is possibly off by 15%? If he were to crash at 150 he'd be as dead if crashed at 205 mph. If he hit an innocent bystander or vehicle it still would not matter too much. Bottom line is the ticket was written with 205 mph in a 65 which is pretty incredible. ( Now watch as someone says it is off by 16%):D

mirror70
September 23rd, 2004, 01:03 PM
Jack, think about it this way: If you hadn't been stupid, you wouldn't have ended up with a very interesting story to tell. The lesson here is that if you're smart, you're boring, and no one wants to be boring. :)

As for my own stories.....well, there was that time in VT when I was going somewhere north of 140 and was called in......then that time I was pulled over for speeding in a golf cart....there's also the most recent citation which ended up with the officer losing his job.....

Where do I begin? :D

mirror70
September 23rd, 2004, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by C5 Golfer
Bottom line is the ticket with a written with 205 mph in a 65 which is pretty incredible.

Hit the nail on the head with that one. That's exactly why there are posts questioning the accuracy of it.

Jon Dahl
September 23rd, 2004, 03:38 PM
involved my brother, my wife, and of course, myself. We'd just entered a parking lot and I spotted 2 cruisers,lights off, sitting. Just as I was going to yell at my brother, he pulled a wheelie. Of course, the lights came on and we stopped. Each cop wrote us both tickets for neg. driving. Went to court, Wife and I and my brother all testified that I hadn't done anything, judge said that it was strange for 3 witnesses to disagree with an officers testimony, ticket tossed out. My bro, whose first name is alphabetically after mine, bit the bullet on his ticket. Funny things are said cop had a d.w.i .tossed out of court just before my case, and the next time I saw said officer, he was driving the state patrol commercial scale truck! BTW, in my humble opinion, anything over 150 on a freeway is flat scary, 'cause the closing speed on vehicles is too quick, and $#!# happens!

Gecko
September 23rd, 2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by mirror70
The salt flats are much much slower than pavement. Until 2000, the record for a "stock bodied" 1.5L car there was only 142mph. That class allows for unlimited engine mods as long as the body of the car is stock-looking. A completely stock 150HP Audi A4 with the limiter removed will do 142mph (yes, I know it's a slightly bigger engine, but it's also stock).

Funny everyone saythat but speeds are remarkablly similar between good Salt and Maxton in NC(paved)...the salt just allows for a longer run. The downside of the salt is wheelspin Perfect conditions don't come along that often but when they do things like 245mph on a worx Busa are posible...Part of the deal with the low records at the salt is that people aren't actually trying to beat them. Sure there are folks who's only goal is to collect records in obscure classes (like -50cc sidecar/43mph last I heard) but many of the class records sit vacant or unchallenged for years because conditions aren't right or just that no one wants the record. The salt an Maxton are a pretty acurate example of how fast vehicles can go. anyway the problem as states above the hp needed between 180mph and 200mph is immense and NOS alone won't give it to you without detonating the engine between you legs. The other problem that I have heard is that the Busa in particular is rather unstable over 195mph and doen't seem to settle down until about 212mph. The front end does not stay down and requires 4-5 inches of swingarm to correct unless you have the hp to blow through this speed range.

Maciek
September 26th, 2004, 03:11 PM
<A href="http://fun.from.hell.pl/2004-05-18/afrit-expo.wmv">Crazy driver</A>

Gecko
September 26th, 2004, 04:46 PM
Some friends have been campaigning a motorcycle for a while on the salt and at Maxton. The bike is a Buell RR1000...3 years ago with full NOS Boost it turned mid 180's. Realizing that they had pretty much acheived all they could with that Power Plant they went for a new engine in the same frame (the Buell RR body is one of the most Aerodynamic ever) they got the same top speed non NOS boosted with 1639cc. Yes that's a jump of 639cc and with a 20hp boost from NOS blasted over the 200mph mark still accelerating on the 5 mile course at 208 and change. Total Hp was approximatly 180-190 (this was a pushrod twin) They were able to get same top speed as the MotoGP do with aproximatly 75% the power because of Aerodynamics. Modern street motorcycles aren't near as aero as the manufactuers would like you to beleive.

johann
September 27th, 2004, 11:57 AM
supposed to be taken from the guy's post on a bike forum

205mph

All right, I was the one who got the ticket and it is time to clear some things up. For one, I was riding a 2003 Honda RC51, "heavily modified" with 2 Brothers slip on pipes and, well thats all the mods I have unless you count the "I stop for wh***s" sticker. Next, the bike wasn't impounded, it was towed so it wouldn't be in the roadway. Ok, on to the tickets. 205...uh no. I am personal friends with the owner of "Hitman Motorsports" and tonight, Sept. 22, we did a top speed run on his dyno, in 6th gear, and maxed nearly 60mph slower than I was arrested for. The "no motorcycle endorsement" is because my licence was expired, I do have a motorcycle endoresement for all you people digging into me about that. The stop watch method may be accurate at times, but this is un-conceivable for my motorcycle to approach 205. Honda's RC211v, which is Honda's MotoGP race bike, 5 cyclinders and 268 horespower, just broke 200mph on the track within the last week. And we are talking about a 1/2 to 3/4 million dollar bike. And for you gear-heads, I had on Joe Rocket Boots, Shoei helmet, Leather gloves, Ballistic coat, and leather bottoms. Also, both of us were arrested, and no, the slower one did not get a warning, he was ticketed for 111mph on a F4i. I hope this clears things up for everybody, I am just sick of everyone saying things about what they dont know, making me look like this horrific person. People speed, and if anyone knows anything about the "Flood Run" (which was the ride I was on, which by the way benefits the Gillettes Children Fund) I would be a hell of a lot more concerned about the 7,000 bar-hopping motorcyclist out on the road. 99% of the people you hear things from are misinformed. If you have questions, I will answer them. And one last note, this is information you don't know, the pilot who clocked me, was clocking me, the F4i, and flying his plane at 110mph all at the same time. Think about that for a second.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0922042speed1.gif

kamran
September 27th, 2004, 12:24 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040927/ap_on_fe_st/205_mph_ticket

sic t 2
September 27th, 2004, 12:34 PM
The cop is a pinhead.

But I like the '99 Hayabusa. Lots of potential there in stock form.
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_perf_nums

Sic

Bubba
September 27th, 2004, 08:11 PM
The guy down the road from me had a CBR600F4i. He rode that thing on the edge. You could hear him a good mile away when he would come home at night. I haven't seen him around for a couple of weeks. Found out last weekend that he slammed into an empty haywagon that was crossing the road. County sheriff estimated his speed at about 120mph. He sheared the haywagon and himself in half. Left a pregnant wife and son. Don't mean to be a bummer but I had to give my 2 cents.

C5 Golfer
September 27th, 2004, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by sic t 2
The cop is a pinhead.

But I like the '99 Hayabusa. Lots of potential there in stock form.
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_perf_nums

Sic

The top speed of a lot of bikes was good to see.. my Corvette beats 98% of them... :D Holy Crap Bat Man-- !!!!!! what a can of worms I just opened.....

Enzo
September 28th, 2004, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by C5 Golfer
The top speed of a lot of bikes was good to see.. my Corvette beats 98% of them... :D Holy Crap Bat Man-- !!!!!! what a can of worms I just opened.....

Alright....enough of the pitter-patter. :)
So let's hear it....

What's the fastest that people have ever been...driver or passenger....car, motorcycle, boat, bike, skis, snowboard, etc....?

Gecko
September 28th, 2004, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by Enzo
Alright....enough of the pitter-patter. :)
So let's hear it....

What's the fastest that people have ever been...driver or passenger....car, motorcycle, boat, bike, skis, snowboard, etc....?

Car? 140mph My old 1966 mustang (The cop only ticketed me for 75mph after seeing my Military ID thank you Texas)

Motorcycle? Mine? 105mph (its a Buell Blast almost stock) any motorcycle? +125mph Duc 998 (and terrified to to give it more gas.

Boat? 42kts USS Nimitz

Bike? +60mph downhill road, 46mph offroad on the old Kamikazee at Mammoth

Ski??? NOT

Snowboard? I was clocked in the low 50's at Stowe on my old 200cm Flite (in 3 strap softies) but that was scary and not anywhere near in control

Jack Michaud
September 28th, 2004, 05:27 AM
http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10677&page=5&pp=15

Speedzilla
September 28th, 2004, 06:09 AM
Car: Maybe 120-130 in a Vette.
Bike: 150 (indicated) on my Honda RC51

Jack Michaud
September 28th, 2004, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney

Motorcycle – 168 indicated 159.6 corrected on RT 89 in VT.

Were you going downhill?
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_perf_nums/#yamaha

Enzo
September 28th, 2004, 07:20 AM
Since I started this, here we go:

Car....'95 Ferrari F512M....140mph
'97 C5 Vette....125mph

Boat...as driver...37' Outerlimits 92mph
as passenger....42' Outerlimits w/ twin 1450hp engines....120mph

Mt. Bike....50mph...down a mine road between Park City/Deer Valley.

Funny thing is the mt. bike was the hairiest white knuckle experience!

johann
September 28th, 2004, 07:43 AM
'99 ws6 convertible firebird 135

schwinn roadbike 46, in silly curvey mountain road, ended up in the wrong lane. woops!

mtn bike 30

agreed that anything above 40 on a bicycle is white knuckle scary. dunno how they manage 70 in the tour.

124mph freefall

~15-20mph windsurfing? working on improving that one

Tommy D
September 28th, 2004, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney

Honestly though? I'd rather make turns all day on all of the above than go for top speed.


BINGO! :cool:


Car: 140mph @ Watkins Glen

Road Bicycle: 42mph (those darned stop signs cause me problems.) And I echo the white knuckle sentiment for bicycles!

Mountain bike: probably no faster than 35 on a hard tail

Ski: 65mph free-racing

Snowboard: Heh ... guestimate 25-30mph tops.

Longboard: Can I bragg about ~10mph? :D

C5 Golfer
September 28th, 2004, 07:54 AM
My 1980 280SL Mercedes- 130mph
My 1998 C5 Corvette 135mph
A while back - my 1968 fuggly red beat up Chevy Suburban 4X4 4 speed manual tranny, which I installed a LT1 350 motor - 120mph - it was quite a sleeper.

Funny thing about the Red C5, which I bought new, is about a week after I picked it up I was driving home one night on I-90 going about 70 mph in a 60 zone and all the sudden there was blue flashing lights in my rear view mirror. I pull over and wait for the guy to come to the window. He was a sharply dressed younger WSP smiling "How you doing?" I said "Fine , it is a nice night for a drive" He said back" Gotcha clocked doing 70 back there, which is not too bad in a car like this!" I said with a smile " thanks" He then said " I wanted to be sure it wasn't stolen, plus I haven't seen one of these yet and just wanted to take a look at it up close, have a good night"

mirror70
September 28th, 2004, 09:51 AM
Snowboard: No idea, but it sure did feel fast :)

Bike: Slow because I'm so out of shape. I doubt I've ever broken 30 since I don't have a road bike

Golf cart: I don't know how fast I was going, but the cop who pulled me over thought it was too fast.

Car: Somewhere over 170. The speedo on the B5 S4s stops at 170 and the car doesn't gear out until 185mph. The revs were at about 6800 in 6th, redline is 7100. Needless to say, the car wasn't exactly stock.

ARCrider
September 28th, 2004, 10:07 AM
99.1 kph, very disappointed to not get over 100k
wife was on the back and the posted limit was 80k

Our new tandem has an optional drum brake of which she has control.

Jon Dahl
September 28th, 2004, 10:16 AM
in a car as a passenger, '70 Road Runner watching the speedo needle bounce over in the right turn signal area (150 ish?). '93 fzr 600 150 mph indicated (I-5) still pulling. 43mph and going downhill on my road bike (25mph zone) Snowboard? Dunno, wish ski patrol had a radar gun!

Tommy D
September 28th, 2004, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by ARCrider
99.1 kph, very disappointed to not get over 100k
wife was on the back and the posted limit was 80k


So, just what happens if we get pulled over for speeding on a bicycle? When I did 42, it was in a curvy 25mph zone.

Officer: Why didn't you stop when I put on the siren?

Me: Do you have any idea how long it takes to stop a bicycle from that speed?? :D

johann
September 28th, 2004, 10:43 AM
60mph on a tandom?

impressive.

Ghostrider
September 28th, 2004, 09:28 PM
http://www.ghostridermovie.net/

Check out the trailers.

Art
September 28th, 2004, 09:46 PM
55 on my road bike down 24th in east bellevue towards lake samamish in a 25 mph zone. thought the manhole cover was gonna take me out. about 45 down Innis Arden in north Seattle when my buddies frame pump fell off and blew my rear tire. amost ruined my cleats using my shoes for outriggers while looking for something soft to land in while taking oncomming. stopped about a foot short of the beckoning laurel hedge. older and wiser now. only got the RF 900 up to 135 and not even close to redline.

lonerider
September 28th, 2004, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney
Never got a speeding ticket on a bicycle, but I did get one for riding on the sidewalk when I lived in Portland, OR. $15.

I vividly remember it's like $50 in Cambridge, MA - a friend's roommate got stopped around midnight for bicycling on the sidewalk, tried to plead ignorance, conceded, received his ticket and started to walk away... when he saw that it was a full $50 fine and then proceded to give the officer a "piece of his mind" referring to two farm animals and some bodily functions.

... and so my friend end up having to bail him out of jail at 4AMish (took a while for him to get booked and processed and stuff) and so he was late/missed (I can't remember anymore but I remember the fine amount due to my friend's humorous dramatized re-enactment) our 5AM meetup to drive up to Sunday River for a daytrip.

k_t
September 29th, 2004, 07:30 PM
C5 Golfer would like this.

The fastest speeding ticket that I got was with a friend of mine after we left a bar (thankfully after only one beer) in about 1975-6. He was in his 911T Porsche with me following in my ’68 El Camino with the 365 HP 327. I know it may be hard for some of you to believe but he ended up having to draft me to stay up after I crept by him on the freeway. My speedometer was too far past to register but he said that his was a bit past 135 (top of his speedo). We did not get pulled over until we made an exit to get some food on the way home as my friend was having a flat tire. We had no idea that we were being chased. Any way we were lucky that the police were in a good mood and only wrote us for “in excess of 90 MPH in a 65”. However we still had to make the mandatory appearance at the jail that night and had to pay the toe bill.

The top speed that I have registered on my mountain bike was 54 MPH, down hill of course, slight tail wind, and rapidly cooling air temps. That was about 6-8 MPH over the norm on this particular road. So favorable conditions can make a difference.

Derf
September 30th, 2004, 05:22 PM
I'll probably post the slowest highest speeds here:

Car (1992 Mazda 323, 83 HP):
fastest: 150 km/h (I think it can do more)
ticket: cop said 130 km/h when driving 140 km/h in a 100 km/h zone, ~150$CAN

Bike (mountain bike with road tires)
fastest on my computer now: 66 km/h

Derf

knoch
September 30th, 2004, 07:28 PM
ya'll sound like you can't get away with anything. last time i drove by chicago on 94 where its 55mph i found someone to fallow that was doing about 70 at the time. i don't think he wanted me fallowing him because he just kept speeding up and so we went most of the way through that section of road at 125. it was so nice because usually that section of road is crammed full of cars, thats the fastest i've ever gotten by chicago.

outsider
October 1st, 2004, 06:20 AM
might have been me. i have a friend that lives at one entrance, and my house is at the next entrance, so if the highway's clear then that stretch becomes my own personal dragstrip. (around 11:00 pm the edens empties out, and around 2 or 3 it is just shy of being empty)

sic t 2
October 1st, 2004, 07:57 AM
120 mph this morning, down route 287 in New Jersey, in a Mercury Sable rent-a-wreck (with one of those skinny spare tires on the rear axle).

Sic

knoch
October 1st, 2004, 10:31 AM
could have been you, but there was some traffic we had to work through, it was just spread out enough that we never had to slow down. and it was about 8pm i think. anyways, it was in an intrepid, those things are really smooth on the road at any speed it was kinda nice.

outsider
October 2nd, 2004, 10:21 AM
sorry man, i be rockin the 04 Corolla

knoch
October 2nd, 2004, 11:58 PM
could have been you

thomas_m
October 3rd, 2004, 09:15 AM
250kph (156mph) at 7:00AM on a Sunday - middle of the I-90 bridge across Lake Washington in my former '81 930 Turbo. IIRC, the previous owner had it up to 176mph on his home track in WI (he builds racecars for a living).

This one had a RUF 5-speed(stock 5speeds didn't start unitl '86) that was geared very long. I usually shifted into 5th at about 100mph to cruise at medium RPM's. Totally unusable at normal speeds - as was that car in general. My wife refused to drive it and later to even ride in it after I jumped on the boost when she wasn't expecting it one day. The screams... LOL

T.

Ghostrider
October 3rd, 2004, 09:27 AM
I love 930 turbos! One of my all-time favorites
I'll never forget my first boost experience. When you hear that turbo start sucking air, you better hang on. Great ride!!