Softbooters stay away.

[jburrill]

All you freestyling softbooters stay away from BOL. This is for middle aged folks who like to carve with alpine gear. You softies can go to SOL for your bloggatory remarks. Softbooters are different. They use soft boots that look like they should be on the moon. And their bindings have funny straps made of rubber bands. I dont like those studded leather belts either. Dont even get me started bout those 360 and 725's. Is nothing sacred?

[Buell]

Your problem is that very few of us are that narrow. Many of us hard boot riders feel there is a time and place for soft boots and we enjoy riding them.

Good luck.

[BlueB]

Are you trying to start a flame war, or what? I could understand in the summer, a bit of flaming is entertaining, but now with so many good topics going on?

I tought that anyone who wanted to carve a thin line in the snow, was welcome here...

[pow4ever]

seems to me this intened as a joke toward the Soft Bindings For Freecarving (http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28690) thread.

I hope so anyway.

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David

[Buell]

seems to me this intened as a joke toward the Soft Bindings For Freecarving (http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=28690) thread.

I hope so anyway.

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David

Maybe so, I just found this post in there:

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I suggest a Custom X wide with CO2 bindings and Driver X boots with RAF inserts. Now, crank the front foot up to a whopping 26 degrees (max for this binding) and set your back foot to neg 5 degrees. You have to ride switch as well.

Hmmmm.

Nice one! :biggthump

[BlueB]

If a joke, could we have a smiley added into the tread's title?

[CarvingScooby]

This is for middle aged folks who like to carve with alpine gear.

Yes he does;)...

Cheers
RT:lurk:

[lonbordin]

I wish I could pull a "725", sigh. Ooo just read the thread... I see I'm totally wrong! I meant 725g.

[BlueB]

I see a smiley there now. Much better!

[dano]

Some of you big hearted bi-curious types should consider embracing the lunatic fringe on both sides of the carving scale. Not just the low side.

Just because one jibber out of 500 might carve a turn or two doesn't make them any less annoying for straightlining runs, scraping the snow off trails sideways or crapping on the floor in the restroom.

"DOOOOOOOOD......"

[DiveBomber]

Some of you big hearted bi-curious types should consider embracing the lunatic fringe on both sides of the carving scale. Not just the low side.

Just because one jibber out of 500 might carve a turn or two doesn't make them any less annoying for straightlining runs, scraping the snow off trails sideways or crapping on the floor in the restroom.

"DOOOOOOOOD......"

thats why they wear their pant around their ass... so the bottom of the pant cuff can wipe it up.

[Dave ESPI]

Not sure what this thread is all about, but I definately can say there is a place for softboot carvers here too.

Its all about getting low and ripping some flow..... nomatter what your choice of equipment is.

:biggthump

[bobdea]

Your problem is that very few of us are that narrow. Many of us hard boot riders feel there is a time and place for soft boots and we enjoy riding them.

Good luck.

agreed.
I have softboots and I use them, proper tool for the job. I even carve in softies. but generally I keep softboots around for the rare pow day, the occasional park session and sometimes just to switch it up.

[SteveInOregon]

Baggy boote'rs love me when I show up on my long flattie.

Myself , I don't ride the lift or walk around at the mountain with snotty middle aged fly fisherman attitude , one reason is the young jibberwalkies treat me with respect and admiration even tho my carving is a grade D+, they too can see the "fun" in it.

Even tho I am going in faster and faster and turning higher angles at speed and want to get a full face helmet I mite not get one becasue I want to other riders on the mountain to be able to see my "smile" :biggthump

[Perlyshko]

thats why they wear their pant around their ass... so the bottom of the pant cuff can wipe it up.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Frankly, one part of mine hates softies, because they do not respect space other people need. They just ride downhill straight, buzzing off others who tries to learn something and, moreover, they feel cool about it, although 90% of people on the slope do not even pay attention to the ride that is simply a remarkable crap - you do not need deep skills to ride like that. And that was the reason I deserted to hard boots and alpine boards.
On the other hand, soft boot riding is a bit different style... more forgiving style. Slight overpush with your toes do not bury into snow. Small mistake on the piste is easily recoverable... I was surprised with TITANIC effect on my first hardboot freeriding and I had to react fast to rescue myself from drowning, only because I pushed my toes harder. And for freeriding softs are probably better... :biggthump

In conclusion, pure softies(that are "never-ever" hardies) are afraid of hard consequences. Hardbooters riding softboots belong to a different category. I am also pondering the opportunity to have one softboot board for freeriding(and may be slight freestyling). But I am not morally ready yet to forget my lovely UPZ RC10 even for an instance. :1luvu:

[Ear dragger]

soft people are great. but for a carver, there is no point in having uncomfortable feet, so I stick with the rc10's on the pow board. who wants to carry 2 pair of boots along with all the other stuff. I tried the darkside:angryfire one day this year, that was the end of that. hardboots on all boards:D

[jtslalom]

jburril,
I do understand your frustration. You are no doubt discouraged by straight bombing snowboarding kids that seem to direspect the world and every one in it. They cut people off, swear, smoke on the lift and poke fun at the general public. They seem to be at every resort crowding slopes from east to west. I think the only solution for you is to hang up your board and stop riding. Maybe take up arm chair quarterbacking and complain about what Brett Favre should have done and if you were the coach how things would be changed. I'm sure you would be real good at it.

[C5 Golfer]

All you freestyling softbooters stay away from BOL. This is for middle aged folks who like to carve with alpine gear. You Is nothing sacred?


Whats with the middle aged folks stuff... what about us real old fart$. is it ok to be here?:confused:

[jpenn]

I know I want to say something really profound here... I just can't come up with anything tho. At first, I thought the original comment was funny and intended as that, but for some reason, it really pushed a few buttons out there. Maybe these soft booters who everyone seems to dislike are just at the age where image is everything and looking cool with pants around your ankles is where it's at. But they are a product of where companys like burton and billabong and hurley etc have taken the sport. Image is everything for them, but we have achieved enlightenment - we are into the sport for the sheer pleasure. Their day will come, hopefully, when they realize there is more to life than image, more to riding than what you wear or how you try to impress everyone. Ah, so much for profound thoughts, my apologies for rambling...

[rickythecat]

"I know I want to say something really profound here..."
http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/image.php?u=2549&dateline=1228878017


Something wrong here...just saying:lol::)

[jpenn]

oh yeah, maybe I should change that pic if I want to say something serious:lol:

[RDY_2_Carve]

I've seen some softbooters carve better than some hardbooters. That hardbooter may or may not be me. I'm just saying...

[jpenn]

I've seen some softbooters carve better than some hardbooters. That hardbooter may or may not be me. I'm just saying...

I gotta agree with you RDY, I'm sure you've all seen this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn5nIpXxZBw

These guys are awesome, but i think only one of them are in hardshells.

[bumpyride]

I gotta agree with you RDY, I'm sure you've all seen this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn5nIpXxZBw

These guys are awesome, but i think only one of them are in hardshells.


I'd have to say the most boring guy on this video was the one on Hardboots. The other riders had some style of their own and were really fun to watch.

Now for us. Maybe we Hardbooters just don't have the skill or the youth necessary to be a good carvers on softboots. Maybe it's like cheating.
Maybe it's: Philosophy: Age, Deceit, Cunning, and Treachery can Defeat Youth and skill!

[NateW]

bi-curious

:lol:

[dcski24]

dont get me started on those skiiers....

[snowboardworm]

i know a girl at silverstar mtn in vernon bc who is a casi level 3 snowboard instructor. she taught me how to really carve on soft boots. i watched her drag her tuque when in a carve toeside and then flipping over to a heel side and trying to do the same thing again. and again. and again. and again. she was phenomenal to watch!!!!!! and this was with softboots.

apparently she's part way to her level 4 and her form on hardboots is very nice.

sometimes its the rider and not necessarily the equipment that can make things happen.

n.b. she was riding duck-ish

[BlueB]

Hard to find someone on the higher pony then the one you normaly ride... I often wonder why you post on this site at all?

Maybe you missed on the fact that quite a few die hard hardbooters protested about the tone and content of the original post. Then it got clarified as a joke, so most of the people carried on jokingly. But that might be too subtle to notice, for a guy who uses sexism as pejorative to a style of carving...

[BlueB]

Ah, post ghost, again... I forgot to quote you, so now my previous post sounds like a lunatic talking to himself... Ah, well...

[DiveBomber]

I felt bad for insulting so I edited the post. The last thing I want to do is make a hardbooter feel even more inferior.

Sorry BlueBalls.

Someone sounds bitter:boxing_sm

[bobdea]

I felt bad for insulting so I edited the post. The last thing I want to do is make a hardbooter feel even more inferior.

Sorry BlueBalls.

WTF, you delete a post and then just start calling names?

so, what did he say?

what's the point of posting here if you have a jib superiority complex?

[Newturn]

All you freestyling softbooters stay away from BOL. This is for middle aged folks who like to carve with alpine gear. You softies can go to SOL for your bloggatory remarks. Softbooters are different. They use soft boots that look like they should be on the moon. And their bindings have funny straps made of rubber bands. I dont like those studded leather belts either. Dont even get me started bout those 360 and 725's. Is nothing sacred?


I guess you guys dont know Burril(he skools most everyone). Yea !..I was wondering what happened to you. Pm me

[SteveInOregon]

Edited for BlueBalls.

Hardboots....training wheels for the less skilled.
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MY REPLY: A lot of folks here thought "I" was a troll, but your "official" pal.

Who gives a crap what kind of plank you float the snow on, or what I or any of these guys ( gals ) here have fun on.

I don't soft anymore because 1) I am beat up ( multiple broken bones & more injuries like that ) so I cant get air without ending up in the hospital, and 2) got "bored" on a soft rides lack of s-p-e-e-d, I wanted more speed and ultra fast precise handling and I found it in hard shells, so big deal, whoope-e-do for me.

I got all the respect in the world for the Shaun White's of this world, the stuff they do is ballsy and amazing skill, I LOVE to watch them in the super pipe event's.

I DON'T like it when they crash & burn because they are highly trained professional athletes , cool young guys with class who are commited to excellence and I want them to have a good long carrier.

But I havbe to admit, I do like watching a stunt runt, who is zero class and all ego weenie blast a blunt smoking park show and bounce a stash run to the pain hut complete with blood trail.

I have to admit I like to see the loud mouth stunt runts crack a rib and do some star gazing while waiting to catch the red cross ride down the hill.


Hard boots = sharp fast turns as high s-p-e-e-d. You aint gonna find any Olympic champ charging down hill and winning a PGS race in moon boots.

Sofites with class who really get monster air are all right in my book, :)

[b0ardski]

This site started as a place to buy hardboot bindings that don't break.

The only time I hate on softies is when some side slipper plays heelside bulldozer on a run they shouldn't even be on. I've seen duckfooters carve a perfect circle, it's not a matter can it be done, for me it's a matter of comfort & convenience as much as performance.

I like my training wheels & my crutches; I don't get foot pain, I don't have to reset my binding every time I step in without bending over, and I can trench groom, go switch, rip the bumps, and track the pow in the trees on 1 stick or 2, without changing boots.
I find no advantages to laces & straps for any conditions including deep powder.
I got tired of fussing with laces & straps 20 years ago and every time I give them a shot since I wonder were the edge pressure went and why my feet hurt. 2 incompatible sets of gear is just extra clutter I don't really need.
ymmv
signed, another old dog who's bag of tricks is full enough

ps burton drivers for sale cheap

[SteveInOregon]

This site started as a place to buy hardboot bindings that don't break.

The only time I hate on softies is when some side slipper plays heelside bulldozer on a run they shouldn't even be on. I've seen duckfooters carve a perfect circle, it's not a matter can it be done, for me it's a matter of comfort & convenience as much as performance.

I like my training wheels & my crutches; I don't get foot pain, I don't have to reset my binding every time I step in without bending over, and I can trench groom, go switch, rip the bumps, and track the pow in the trees on 1 stick or 2, without changing boots.
I find no advantages to laces & straps for any conditions including deep powder.
I got tired of fussing with laces & straps 20 years ago and every time I give them a shot since I wonder were the edge pressure went and why my feet hurt. 2 incompatible sets of gear is just extra clutter I don't really need.
ymmv
signed, another old dog who's bag of tricks is full enough

ps burton drivers for sale cheap
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MY REPLY: DITTOS one pair of X's and one pair of SI's just sitting on the shelf.

[DiveBomber]

same here, everytime I put on my soft boots and board, all I can think is "this sucks" to the point i just put flexy plates on my softboard.

[Steve Prokopiw]

Although I agree with much of stuff here in favor of hard boots,especially for my personal style,comfort and riding preferences;the best recreational racer I have ever known is a softbooter and great friend by the name of Chris Sandoski, who is an instructor at Vail. In the years I worked there,more often than not, I saw him slay all comers and guests to the skischool and beer leagues.

[DiveBomber]

im not saying you cant ride well in soft boots.... just not sure why you'd want to.... its not that i dont like soft boots per say, its just the whole concept/interface, all day support etc etc

oh and the boards just feel like wet noodles... its like driving and chevy caprice with under infalted tires

[jtslalom]

I guess you guys dont know Burril(he skools most everyone). Yea !..I was wondering what happened to you. Pm me

I think most people know that Burril is breaking balls. Look at the guys profile and you'll see he rides more soft gear than hard. Who cares? I just like to try to bust his chops back. My problem is I'm not as witty as others
(compared to the likes of S. Orrechio.)

[pow4ever]

oh and the boards just feel like wet noodles... its like driving and chevy caprice with under infalted tires


way off topic
I had 2 chevy caprice(couldn't afford the impala ss):

Chevy LT1 engine (350CI corvett derive)

1 1995 1a2(wagon police package)
1 1996 9c1(sedan police package)

They handle quite well for their size in stock format. I know ppl who attend SCCA autocross event in them.

Throw a whole set of hotchkiss sway bar/springs/control arms + sticky tire they are pulling 1G in the skidpad.

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David

[dano]

Hannah is still welcome anywhere.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010_swimsuit/winter/hannah-teter/


WOW! Clair is even HOTTER! She can crap on my floor anytime!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010_swimsuit/winter/clair-bidez/

[bobdea]

Hannah is still welcome anywhere.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010_swimsuit/winter/hannah-teter/


WOW! Clair is even HOTTER! She can crap on my floor anytime!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010_swimsuit/winter/clair-bidez/

Dano, you have not heard hannah teter speak. she's like Danny Kass but more annoying if that's possible.
http://www.spike.com/episode/16779/st/2778876

[newcarver]

The few times I have crashed hard the last few seasons was when I was carving hardpack in softies. Carve same areas under same conditions with hardboots and have never crashed hard. Still use softies for steep bump runs and powder and carve when snow is soft enough. It is a lot harder to carve in them than hardboots under non-hero conditions. My feet cramp up more too. I can ride hardboots under all conditions on the right board, but seems like it makes my thighs more tired. I think its because I'm riding a lot faster and harder than with soft boots:biggthump It's definitly easier to go faster under all conditions in hardboots than soft :boxing_sm

[carvedog]

I felt bad for insulting so I edited the post. The last thing I want to do is make a hardbooter feel even more inferior.

Sorry BlueBalls.

Shooo go away, pesky fly.

How do you like being the kid who pisses in the sandbox all the time?

Makes you feel soooo good, huh?

[carvedog]

"official"

my ass. He's a hard boot hater from the word go and holds most who post here is high disdain.

Nothing but a true troll who won't go away.

Seems like you're figuring this out, and it's nice to see you on the board. Literally and here on Bomber too.

S. ------ not so much.

[Jack Michaud]

aaand we're done.