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vapor
June 26th, 2009, 03:56 PM
I have been wanting to drop a bit of weight from my bindings on my splitboard and was wondering why there isn't an option for titanium bails on standard plates and only for the front bail with intec?
Is it do to the lower modulus of elastisity of titanium and not wanting both bails flexing or is it some other factor?
tex1230
June 27th, 2009, 04:51 AM
what will that save? like 3 grams? :smashfrea
vapor
June 27th, 2009, 07:54 AM
Actually a weee bit more than that tex:eek:. The world of splitting is very similar to to cycling in concern to weight to their machines.The difference is where they suffer occasionally in the hills we spend the majority on the uptrack......with evil demons sporting dynafit racing gear using the mantra "You should try skiing".
Every little bit helps and as the bindings are moving mass its even more important.

PS: A few stratigic mods like this and he wasnt saying the mantra at the end of the season anymore.
fin
June 29th, 2009, 07:34 AM
Vapor,

The reason the Ti bails don't show for the standards is we are just simple out of them. Right now no plans to make more as they are crazy pricey and a bitch to bend. I have a machine I made here that bends those bails and when I try to bend that Ti the machine is maxed out.

Hope to do another batch at some point as I am the same way with my split gear, light is good.

FYI: weight diff between a standard heel bail in steel vs Ti is:
Stainless Steel Heel Bail = 48 grams
Ti Heel Bail = 26 grams

So in a complete set of standards you could save about 88 grams total (more as the toe bail is an inch longer)

Or 3.1 oz / .20 lbs

A lot, no. But trudge up 2000ft of vert in pow and every bit helps.
tex1230
June 29th, 2009, 07:47 AM
actually that is a lot more than I thought...

:ices_ange
vapor
June 29th, 2009, 01:33 PM
Thanks for the reply fin.
Working with that stuff must be a pain in the a$$. Not only higher loads but a different springback that probably would need a different set of dies than the stainless versions.
bjvircks
June 29th, 2009, 02:54 PM
when I first saw this thread I wondered aloud... "why would anyone want titainium BALLS?"
boarderboy
June 29th, 2009, 05:48 PM
when I first saw this thread I wondered aloud... "why would anyone want titainium BALLS?"

it would negate the need for fungus-laden jock straps!

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Jon Dahl
June 30th, 2009, 10:32 PM
I'll take the standard bails over the Voile mtn. plates ANY day! I really don't notice the weight difference, but I sure notice the stiffness difference. At my age, going uphill involves a lot more than a quarter lb. underfoot. Now, titanium balls would be distracting when climbing in the skin track...
boarderboy
July 1st, 2009, 07:09 PM
Now, titanium balls would be distracting when climbing in the skin track...

there were a couple of titanium tits waitin' at the end of the climb... ??!

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vapor
July 1st, 2009, 08:48 PM
How did we get from the availability of titanium bails for bomber bindings to titanium tits at the end of a climb????lol.The bigger question is if borderboy would have the energy after doing 10000 vert ...... maybe thats what the metal balls upgrade is for ;)
boarderboy
July 1st, 2009, 09:21 PM
The bigger question is if borderboy would have the energy after doing 10000 vert ...... maybe thats what the metal balls upgrade is for ;)

after a 10,000 ft. climb. Any anatomical titanium would be irrelavent, though it would no doubt materially increase the value of my corpus...

AR

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