05 Summit Expression Session - Use this thread for talk

[Michelle]

Hello carver-ites! Glad to see everyone is keeping busy in the summer as well and havin' fun!

As most of you know, we have posted the dates for the SES 05. The dates will be Feb 14-18th, with possibly a day before or a day after for extra time on the hill. In other words, we will either have the Sunday before included (Feb 13th) or the Saturday after (Feb 19th). This will be decided later, but you can definitely plan on that week in particular.

The other big news is that we have decided to host the event for the entire week in the Aspen Valley . This means we will not be moving around from Aspen to Summit County, and you guys/gals can rent one room and stay there the entire week. This means cheaper lodging, and probably cheaper lift tickets for all of us. Also means if you fly into Aspen you won't have to rent a car, although it is nice to get to and fro all the parties with all the new booty you will win at the raffles . :)

I will be making a trip to Aspen this summer (yes, a hard job) to meet with the mountain managers, as well as lodging reps to try and get us a good deal on rooms/suites. I would start planning to share a room with someone if you are coming by yourself, it will help with the price!

If anyone has questions, please feel free to email me (bomber@bomberonline.com) and I will try to answer them. Know that I will probably have more information towards the fall, and once things get closer. I will post any new information I get on the web site, so check there for all your FAQ.

Also, i am doing many updates to the web site, so check out the new Bomber photo galleries on all of our sites. Feel free to comment!

Have a great, fun, safe summer!
SES web site (http://www.bomberonline.com/SES/index.cfm)
Michelle

[Coldrider]

Thanks, Michelle, for your and Bomber's efforts and hard work in putting together such a terrific event. I'm already looking forward to the '05 event.

I must ask, however, if all of the days are scheduled for resorts in the Aspen Valley (which is in Pitkin County), and no days are scheduled for any resorts in Summit County, wouldn't it be more appropriate to call the '05 event the AVES? (or PES?) (or ES?)

[D-Sub]

unless you ride at Snowmass the whole time;)

[Michelle]

UUUHHHH, No.

[MozzMann]

Well since I didn't manage to get there Feb this year, I'm gunna bust my butt to get there for 2005.
I managed to hang on to my tickets and have them open dated for 18 Months.
so if I don't use them next Feb I loose out .

Mozz

[Michelle]

We'd love to see you there! It is looking really big, so make your plans early for housing and tickets. Should be a good one! Let me know if you need help with anything.

[MozzMann]

Thanks Michell I'm going to need some help locating cost effective accomidation as it looks like that will be the biggest expence.

Hireing a Car and driving from other areas doesn't bother me but there is a trade off of course.


I'll keep an eye on the 2005 thread and that should help with decisions , when I know later next month if I can afford to go I'll be pre booking as early as I can .

I share too if anyone can put up with a middle aged yuppie.:)

Maurie

[D-Sub]

Id LOVE to come to this, but the incredibly high lift ticket prices combined with the cost of a place to stay..well...

probably not gonna happen.

bummer:(

[D-Sub]

it was a joke..Snowmass Expression Session still = "SES"

[Tim Tuthill]

D-Sub: I paid less than $150/night last year at Snowmass for 2. We walked 200 ft put on our boards carved down to the lift, and away we went!! Bomber gets the lift tickets for $42 bucks a day. Can you say real cheap!!! Come up and ride with me this season!! Tim

[Aisling]

D-sub, i'm with ya... if i can find a way to save up enough money i so want to go to the SES....

do folks do any group condo-ing like we did at the ECES this year?

[oldvolvosrule]

Me too!! I wanna go this year, I missed last year, I don't want to miss another one. I'm all for rooming with fellow carvers to keep the $$$ affordable.

[D-Sub]

Originally posted by Aisling
D-sub, i'm with ya... if i can find a way to save up enough money i so want to go to the SES....

do folks do any group condo-ing like we did at the ECES this year?

would I look like the typical male if I were to say "I'll room with ya" right now?

[D-Sub]

Originally posted by Tim Tuthill
D-Sub: I paid less than $150/night last year at Snowmass for 2. We walked 200 ft put on our boards carved down to the lift, and away we went!! Bomber gets the lift tickets for $42 bucks a day. Can you say real cheap!!! Come up and ride with me this season!! Tim

$42!?!?!?!?!?!

at SNOWMASS?

Im fckin THERE

i would love to meet you, Tim. Youd be a huge inspiration, and a nice buffer against my fear of "getting old"

[fishrising]

How far is it / how long is it by car, from Denver out to Aspen Valley? I've done the Denver to Silverthorn area many times, but I don't remember how far it is out to Aspen...

I've got frequent flyer miles, and friends who live in Denver, so I may be able to do this cheaply, if it's not a 4 hour ride each way...

Anyone know realistically how long it takes to drive? Sure, I can look it up on mapquest or yahoo maps, but I am looking for a "I've done that drive before and it takes X hours..." answer.

Or, is a daily bus ride possible? (I can't believe I am considering a bus ride, I guess I really want to go...)

The catch is that my wife (who skiis once a year) and our new born will join me, but they will stay in Denver with our friends while I head out to ride...maybe I can get away with 1 night out at Aspen...instead of driving back and forth.

I am from CT, so driving 3 hours each way to go skiing is not a big deal to me...

Thanks!

[Aisling]

Originally posted by D-Sub
would I look like the typical male if I were to say "I'll room with ya" right now?

hehe, well i suppose so... and maybe some chicks would be offended... but not me. LOL
heck, i'll room with ya !! its all about cost effectiveness people. :)

[Michelle]

How far is it / how long is it by car, from Denver out to Aspen Valley? I've done the Denver to Silverthorn area many times, but I don't remember how far it is out to Aspen...

Ok, let me give you the skinny on the driving times, etc. being that I just did it a few weeks ago.

Summer, 2 1/2 hours from Silverthorne to Aspen. Means from Denver, 3/12 -4 depending on what part of Denver, traffic, etc.

Winter: 3- 3 1/2 hours depending on conditions of the road and traffic from Silverthorne. Plan on another 1 1/2 - 2 hours from Denver depending on where in Denver you are starting from.

The drive is I-70 all the way except the last 45 minutes. However, on I-70 you go through Glenwood Canyon, which can be really hairy in the winter, as the road will sometimes freeze. Plan on going slow through the canyon, then it's interstate the rest of the way to Denver, but you have 2 passes to cross.

There is an airport in Aspen, also one in Eagle which is about 1/2 way. In the winter, they sometimes do specials flying in to Aspen. Once in Aspen, you will probably not have to rent a car, depending on where you are staying. If you are staying in Basalt, Carbondale, or Glenwood, you may have to because it is about 1/2 hour to 1 hour drive from the Airport. However, staying in Snowmass, Aspen, Buttermilk you can take shuttles to your hotel/condo, and busses to and from the resorts. During the day they are free, at night they are $2. They also have taxis.

Snowmass is about 20 minute drive from Aspen, Buttermilk and Highland are in between. I will post maps on the SES site.

Lodging: You will get the best deals on lodging if you are booking for 5 or more nights. Since Aspen is a destination resort, they plan their deals around people staying for a week. I have really researched this so that people on a budget will be able to afford lodging. If you can collaborate with a few people and share a condo, you will get the best deal. You can get a condo in town or at Snowmass for $150-200/night, and usually that will sleep 4+ people. I will be posting whatever I have found on the "Lodging" part of the SES page, so check there. I have also found some B&Bs that are affordable, and some hostel type places for singles that are $50+/night. So there are options. Best bet is to get on this forum, meet people, and share a condo. You can also stay at places like "Motel6" and such if you go out of Aspen valley to Basalt, Carbondale, or Glenwood. Basalt is about a 1/2 hour drive from Snowmass, Glenwood is about 1 hour. If you have a car and don't mind driving, that might be the option for you.

Family stuff: there are so many things to do in Aspen that if you don't ski/ride, you can entertain yourself. If you have a family, there is dogsledding, movies, shopping, rec centers, cross country skiing, sledding in parks, etc etc etc. No one will be bored! If you haven't been to Aspen, it is a Town first, and then a ski resort. Lots of people live there on a daily basis, and it's pretty cool.

Food: If you are staying in a condo, I recommend buying food at the store and cooking at home, with maybe a lunch/breckfast out and a dinner here or there. The prices for dinners are not much more than Summit County, although you can eat at some pretty swank places you can also eat for realtively inexpensive. There are lots of great resturants, and a couple of grocery stores including City Market and some health food stores.

Lift Tickets: We have not yet determined the prices for the lift tickets yet, but yes, it will be under $50/day only for those participating in the SES. I will probably only have 6 day tickets, so the normal "can I go for just 3 days" may or may not apply through Bomber. you may be on your own for those, haven't decided yet. It really gets to be a huge issue when EVERYONE wants something special, and I have to keep it all in my mind :) (there's only so much space in there, and I've got 100 people I am trying to keep organized for a week!).

If you still have questions, check the SES (http://www.bomberonline.com/SES/index.cfm) site. If you still have more questions, email me (bomber@bomberonline.com) . You will get a much better response the earlier you plan, because come Nov Bomber gets a little crazy.

Hope to see you all there! With the early response we are having, I think it will be a really big event, probably the biggest we have seen so far. YAHOOO!!!!

[rekre8r]

My wife and I would love to attend this sesion. We like the $150-$200 per night condo option. Anyone interested in splitting that with us? Michelle where do we want to stay? We would be driving down from Montana. Am so looking forward to seeing more than one Alpine rider on the mountain at at time.
Robert

[Michelle]

In answer to your question "where do we want to stay" it all depends on your budget. You can stay in Aspen Valley if you can find someone to share a condo with, or do a B&B. Or, if you want to go a bit cheaper, stay in Basalt or Carbondale or Glenwood Springs, but be ready to drive a bit after riding/after parties. If you are staying in Aspen Valley, either Snowmass or Aspen proper would be good. The Bomber crew is staying in Aspen, which is where the town is and the "night life" is, although the after party events hosted by Bomber will probably not be in Aspen. Snowmass is a little less expensive, not much, but there is no "town" feeling, it is a resort. You can't walk from Snowmass to Aspen, it is about a 20 minute drive. You would also be limited in restuarants in Snowmass, unless you drove to Aspen for a night or something of that sort.

Keep the questions coming.....

[D-Sub]

Originally posted by Aisling
hehe, well i suppose so... and maybe some chicks would be offended... but not me. LOL
heck, i'll room with ya !! its all about cost effectiveness people. :)

yeah..honestly...Id love to come to this, and I certainly cant afford a condo all by myself. might actually have a motorhome by that point though...

consider me 75% there. really would love to ride with some expert carvers. never have before. Im sure it will be humbling but at the same time Ill get to walk away with some improved skills

[Aisling]

D-Sub,

i'm no expert, i'm barely a novice, and all these folks are super nice and helpful! if you make it you will have a blast. I did at ECES and even though i looked like i'd just gotten the hell kicked outta me afterwards, (bruises, wrecked thumb) i loved every minute of it. :)

because its only just getting to be august, i would say i'm 75% there as well. haha

saving my pennies right now...

[Jim Callen]

There is a free shuttle service going from snowmass to aspen that runs until 5, and after that it's 3 dollars, I believe. That runs until 2:15 AM. It's very convienient to have, and if you get a place downvalley, you can still catch the busses as they run prety often as well, albeit I'm not sure how much they are.

And to respond to the food thing, I think it'd be your best bet to go to restaurants here in Snowmass and Aspen, as opposed to going to the store and buying food. The store food is crazily expensive, and for a few bucks more and less of a hassle, you can get some really good food, you just have to know where to go. The Artisan restaurant in snowmass has the best food I've ever eaten, and their entrees don't go over $25, so it is more than possible to find good food for not too expensive. You'll probably want to get some breakfast foods at the store, but some of the hotels and condos have continental breakfasts, so those work well too.

[D-Sub]

unfortunately, $25 a meal IS a lot to me

[Aisling]

I'm there with ya... i tend to look for 10 bucks and under LOL...

but i am still in school after all :-p

[D-Sub]

well, heres my deal

My mom lives in Paonia, which is only like a 2 hour drive...so...I'll have a good base to start from. I can certainly stock up on dry/canned goods to stay on the cheap

heh. she also has a tiny trailer I could take, but...I think itd be a bit too cold for that ****, altho I do have a bag rated to -20 (actually lived in a van in Crested butte for about 6 weeks from the end of october to mid december. wasnt exactly warm:)

dunno...Id just really really really really really really (is that enough reallys?) like to ride with yall, learn about the new techniques (this straight board and super rigid binding system doesnt feel right to me yet)...

Im sure there are ways to cut costs. always are

[MozzMann]

OK My state of Play at present I'll be flying out of Oz on the 6th and Arrive Denver on the 6th (weired eh) 2:30 PM , I'll possibly get a Bus to Aspen or be Hireing a Van Similar to my own car here. ( Opps scratch that just been advised I can fly in and out of Aspen )

I have arranged a 14 night stay in Aspen WITH 14 Day 4 Mountain lift pass for $1500 AUD through a local Snow Travel agent :D .
Now if I can't get a friend to come with me :mad: I'll have spare room( I think) and since I'll be in Aspen a week ahead of time I might if asked nicely be able to pick others up from the Airport.

I resheduled my Air fares took a bit of haggeling but it's done now.$ 1740 Aud

Touch wood it looks like I'm there :cool:

Mozz

[D-Sub]

wow. someones got some cash

need a personal assistant?;)

[MozzMann]

Nah mate it's called saving likabastard for 2 years to get there .

Iwant to get some quality shots for my Oz Carve web site.
I just heard that the price willbe a bit higher than I had planned but I'm still headin' your way. there ain't no way you yanks are gunna have all the fun :)

[D-Sub]

nice, man. Good to have some aussies there. fun folk!

[Aisling]

mozz, how ya goin? i've a very dear friend who has lived in melbourne for the past few years. irish transpant to Oz.
i love aussie folks!
good luck w the trip planning :)

[MozzMann]

Thanks for the good wishes people ,
I'm trying to put together a package now and get more Aussies to come over.

I've managed to get a bloody good deal on Air fares Under $2k Aud Return and I'm wirkin on getting the best 4/5 Person Condo deal I can put together to keep the costs down .
Ideas would be welcome thanks.

Maybe if we all banded together and booked out an entire floor in one of the lodges we'd get a cool deal (something to think about) [Bird in the hand syndrome] you know guaranteed occupancy.

Any way I'm 80-90% there now .

[Michelle]

I can say that from all the lodging people I talked to, if you guys all get together and decide to stay in one place, they will give you a deal. I think it's a great idea. Let me know which one you are thinking of, and I can set it up for you.

[MozzMann]

The last I heard was from Snowflake Inn
who'd do me a Kitchenette room for $129.00/night
I'm sure that would drop if I could guarantee say 20 people or so :)

How about stiring the pot for your end .

I'll see if I can shake up some agents this end as I've already stirred one bloke up as there is an add for lodging and Lift pass for $X and now he sends me an email saying that it is nearlly twice that and no pass so he'll be getting a shakeup for false advertising.

Maurie

[MozzMann]

Gees this just gets better and better ,
looks like I just scored a Share deal at the Mountain Chalet in Aspen. for $1075 .AUD
This includes a 4 Mountain 6 day Pass too :D and my Air Fare has only set me back $1740. AUD + Taxes Iget on the Plane 70 Mile away

Man I'm getting a woody already .

Mozz

[pm_wizard]

The ski charter people here think I'm nuts... they haven't even got their packages together yet (can you say $47 /bbl oil price), and I'm asking them about February. In fact we seem to finally be getting summer here (maybe?).

Anyhow... using last year's pricing and adding 10 percent (for no particular reason other than fuel supplement) Saturday arrival and departure from Toronto plus hotel, transfers to and from Eagle, and lift ticket CAD 2400 or about US 1800.

Last year they used "Molly Gibson Lodge" or "Limelite Lodge" or The Gant". DOes anyone know what these are like?

John

[Michelle]

Last year they used "Molly Gibson Lodge" or "Limelite Lodge" or The Gant". DOes anyone know what these are like?

I know the Gant is fairly expensive. I think Molly Gibson Lodge and Limelite are about the same, a little pricy but you can check their web sites, or call Karen Keeley at 877-602-7736 X 7192 and tell her you are with the SES 05. She might be able to get you a roup rate or something, it's worth a phone call or email to her.

[pm_wizard]

Thanks Michelle,

I'm checking this through the company that puts cheap trips together in Canada, I'll se what they come up with, then compare.

John

[yyzcanuck]

Michelle! Andrea & I are trying to figure out how we're going to make SES 05 happen for us. Looks good at this point, but we need some details...

When & where are the Bomber parties happening? Can we buy the beer (keg of course) again? This time I hope to drink a bit of it!

Dave & Andrea Morgan

OH, in case I forget... Doc Scott, there will be NO A-Basin for me this time 'round! Thanks again.

[Michelle]

Funny, I JUST sent you an email. Great minds think alike....

Maybe you guys should get together with pm_wizard, he is also coming from Toronto I think.

The Bomber parties are tentatively scheduled for Sunday night (opening night), and Friday night banquet, with probably something smaller inbetween. Give me your thoughts, maybe via email?

I just saw the photos from the wedding, congrats!

[pm_wizard]

Michelle,

Thanks for tipping Dave over my way. We are talking....

John

[Michelle]

No worries John! That's the whole purpose of this forum, is to get people together! I hope it all works out for you. See you there!

[yyzcanuck]

Found airfare from Toronto (YYZ) to Denver (DEN) using Travelocity.ca, for $347cdn. Northwest Airlines. Seems reasonable to me. Aspen was about double that.

[pm_wizard]

Dave:

I've got Toronto to Denver to Aspen on the 12th (using United) and Aspen to Denver to Toronto (again on United) on the 19th using mileage, so I'm committed!

Cheap car rental too for the week! Gotta love those credit card points!

John

[yyzcanuck]

On your way from Denver to Aspen (I70), stop in Idaho Springs at Beau Jo's Pizza. Here's the link...

http://www.beaujos.com/

[ColoradoRipper]

Hi All,

This sounds like a lot of fun and it is in my back yard. I got to go. I just have a couple of questions. First what is the skill level you need to attend. I have competed once last season with a all mountain boad in a GS race and did pretty good ( 1st place) concidering there was no other racers in my age group but you got to start somewere. I can carve and have been boarding for 7 years. Most times i ride with others especialy the macho guys they are blown out of the water with my speed, turns and control on a all mountain board. This season is going to be a great one for snow in Colorado it should start early and be packed full of fresh powder days. This year I will rent or demo an alpine board to see if that is right for me but after racing my first race all i wanted to do was go faster and make better turns.

I would love to come to this event and meet some great people and improve my skills. But if this is for the pro's I wil just come a watch.

Thanks

[fin]

ColoradoRipper,

No question, the SES (and I believe other Sessions) are designed for EVERYONE! All abilities, styles, and backgrounds are invited to join.

In past years we have even had people show who have never been on hardboots. We get them set-up with gear, get them some instruction, and off they go.

Given, you will see some fantastic skill levels at the event but that is what will allow you to get better yourself.

Just watch out for Dave Morgan, he keeps trying to get others to join him on an "all nude carve run" at least once during the week. Those kooky Canadians :D

[Neil Gendzwill]

Originally posted by yyzcanuck
Found airfare from Toronto (YYZ) to Denver (DEN) using Travelocity.ca, for $347cdn. Northwest Airlines. Seems reasonable to me. Aspen was about double that.
Gawd. I live in Saskatoon which is probably 2000 km closer but the fares are double.

Anyways, we are tentatively planning to attend but as there's four of us and the airfares are ridiculous we'll probably drive. 2 days in the car with kids, whoo-hoo!

Hoping to swing a deal with a time-share condo-owning friend who's got a week to get rid of. Did that for a vacation to Orlando and it worked great.

Anyways, if it all works out I'm looking forward to meeting some of you all, and learning lots - I never get a chance to ride with other hardbooters.

[dantheman0177]

Mozz,

I am very keen to make it to the week. I will probably tack in onto a week at Whistler either before or after.

I will probably be able to sort my own airfares (I have a good credit due to an abandoned ski holiday in March - long story) but would be interested in sharing some accom.

I am in Torquay, Vic so will be flying out of Melbourne, but I haven't confirmed any dates as yet.

Let me know what you come up with and I'll try and commit as early as possible.

Cheers,

Dan

[MozzMann]

Yes Dan I PM'ed you with a couple of details,

I'm heading out of Canberra on the 12 th and into Aspen on the 12 th and out on the evening of the 19th. I have all in place now , I just gotta decide which board / s to take Obviously the Race 85 and the hardies and my brand spankin' TDII's but should I pack the custom and softies should we get a pow day :D .

Any advice from the Bomber front would be welcome.

Mozz

[ARCrider]

hey dantheman
Why go to whistler when you're in Colorado? Just stay an extra week. I'm planning to extend my SES

[Michelle]

I just gotta decide which board / s to take Obviously the Race 85 and the hardies and my brand spankin' TDII's but should I pack the custom and softies should we get a pow day

I would say pack your longer boards, because the runs here are nice and wide! Conditions could be a range, last year we had a super powder day, and the rest was fresh groomies. Usually (and I say this with a bit of caution) we don't have the super hard packed ice carving days lilke the East Coast gets, so I would plan for softer snow.

Let me know if you need more details.

[MozzMann]

Thanks Michell ,

I'll bring both as I use the Hard Boots on the Custom '68 anyway from time to time and man don't it turn . :) I'll only be an extra couple of kilo's .

See you all soon :D

[yyzcanuck]

I'd agree with Michelle on the board choice... I would normally ride a 180cm with 12.7m radius on just about everything. In the Aspen area I didn't even look at that board. Everything seems so wide open, and the conditions so forgiving, that I rode a 185cm with 16m sidecut all week at SES2004.

[dantheman0177]

ARCrider,

The whole Whistler thing is a long story (got sick en route this year and never actually made it) but want to just finish off my tour of Canada. But I do get your point about extending the SES. I might have to consider it.

To all those looking for cheap accom, the place I was supposed to stay at this year in Aspen (again, never made it) is the St Moritz Hostel with rooms from $36 USD a night. Could be worth a look, as long as you don't mind hostel accommodation.

Dan

[Michelle]

To all those looking for cheap accom, the place I was supposed to stay at this year in Aspen (again, never made it) is the St Moritz Hostel with rooms from $36 USD a night. Could be worth a look, as long as you don't mind hostel accommodation.

The St Moritz Hotel has agreed to work with the SES. They offer hostel type, normal "hotel" type, as well as a condo type accomodations at different rates. They have a pool and laundry facailities too. Nice guy at the front desk, Roger. They are very conviently located in town, walking distance to everything. Also, if a bunch of people got together, collectively you can rent a condo plus a few hostel type rooms and then everyone would have use of the kitchen and tv, etc. Then eveyone could pay collectively for the total price of everything.

[northcoast]

What is the group code in order to make reservations?

[Michelle]

What is the group code in order to make reservations?

If you are talking about St Moritz, I don't think there is a group code. Just call up and ask for Roger, and then tell him you are with the SES 05. If you have problems let me know and I will call him myself. He said it shouldn't be a problem.

Michelle

[Damion Terrell]

I can bring kegs of home brew. What flavors of beer do people like? I make a Damn Good House Porter. An award winning ESB. A Trappist that makes most people happy :D. And a few other varieties.

I could bring a bunch of 5 gal kegs, which means more variety, or full 15 gal kegs. Either way, it will be on CO2 so no worries about stale beer.

[Jim Pryor]

So stoked to hear the x-session is going to be in the Aspen Valley! Went to Pure Carves in 99 and 01 and had such a blast. It was my first trip to Aspen and boy was I totally floored. The runs they had set aside for us had 8 inches of champagne on top of groomed perfection. These conditions really made for some incredible railing. At Snowmass the slot was roped off just for us and it was like Pipeline meets Jeffereys Bay. Then we went over to Highlands and that mountain just rocked big time. The thing for me was the comraderie and new friends, oh and just a little friendly competition with my fellow alpine devotees. We will make reservations this week and can't wait to finally go to a Bomber event! Keep up the good work Michelle and crew and see ya there. Pray for snow!
Jim Pryor

[Speedzilla]

Originally posted by Damion Terrell
I can bring kegs of home brew. What flavors of beer do people like? I make a Damn Good House Porter. An award winning ESB. A Trappist that makes most people happy :D. And a few other varieties.

I could bring a bunch of 5 gal kegs, which means more variety, or full 15 gal kegs. Either way, it will be on CO2 so no worries about stale beer.

I wish I had friends like you Damion. :D

[yyzcanuck]

Michelle, maybe you could edit your original post to include a poll about what days people intend to ride at SES?

Include a couple days before & after the official dates, and allow multiple selections.

This might give people a better idea of when they should plan on being there.

[Jim Pryor]

Just wanted to say I think it is awesome that the event is going to be held in the valley. A lot of us will be driving to Aspen and the last thing you want to do is get back in the car and drive around. (Flew in once to Aspen and I had to wash my pants twice!). The runs at Buttermilk, and Highlands are just so perfect for carving just like a fresh canvas or perfect piece of marble to get creative. The comraderie and chance to meet new friends makes it something to really look forward to. Went to Aspen in 99 for the first time and then again in 01 and it was amazing to see how everyone had improved! I love watching other riders and to see the myriad of styles and the way they attack the hill is a blast! Anyway I haven't had a computer for a few years and the changes and growth at Bomber are great. Lets see some F2 and other boards for sale soon!! Jim

[fin]

Jim,

Right on, good new we are going to see you again in Aspen. I have to agree, Aspen is the King as far as the groomies go.

F2 Boards are on the way!

[trikerdad]

This may be a dumb question, with unpredictable winter road conditions, but is there any RV parking within a reasonable distance?

[Michelle]

trikerdad,

Try this one Aspen/Basalt RV Park (http://www.coloradodirectory.com/aspenbasaltcamp/) which is probably the closest. There are more in Glenwood springs, and a bunch in Marble/Carbondale area, but you would have to have another vehicle to drive into Aspen every day. If you know someone who is renting a house, you might be able to park in their driveway, but parking on the street is a no-go. There is a 2 hour parking limit during the day, so you would have to move your vehicle all the time. You can try calling/emailing the resort itself (I would suggest Buttermilk) and see if you can park in their parking lot, but it's a longshot for sure.

[Michelle]

Here's some more lodging choices in Basalt, which is about 20minutes from Snowmass.

The Green Drake (http://www.green-drake.com/)
Shenandoah Inn (http://www.shenandoahinn.com/index.html)

Taylor Creek Cabins 970-927-9927

Starry Pines Ranch and Lodging (http://www.starrypinessnowmass.com/) This place is actually in Snowmass.

Best Western (http://book.bestwestern.com/bestwestern/productInfo.do?propertyCode=06104)

[Jim Callen]

Well, there is a way to park on the streets without moving your car:

When they come around and check the cars, the first time around they put a chalk mark on your tire, the second time they ticket. If you got to your car every two hours and wipe off the chalk, you're fine. Albeit it's not much better than moving your car, but at least you don't have to find another spot, which is worse.

[nekdut]

So I'm trying to book my SES plans, and it looks like I can only get to DEN using miles, not ASE unfortunately. Are there affordable shuttles from Denver to Aspen? How much do they usually run?

How necessary is a car once we get into town? How far is that St. Moritz hostel from the slopes and other SES related functions?

Michelle, regarding these $36 hostel rooms at St. Moritz, how many people per room? Is this rate valid the entire week? Is it $36 per room or per person?

Sorry sorry about all of the questions. I'm really looking forward to my first SES! :D :D :D

[Jim Pryor]

Nekdut; boy are you going to love railing in the valley!! I don't know about shuttle service from Denver but once you get to Aspen/Snowmass there are buses that run regularly and take you to all the mountains so you don't need a car. Speaking of carving, have skied/boarded all through Calif., Utah and Colorado and the runs in Aspen are just the best for what we do. Buttermilk seems to have the no crowd perfect coruroy scene but not to technical whereras Aspen Highlands will wake you up real quick with it's steeper runs. Snowmass is just huge. Looking forward to riding Ajax myself. Just get your butt there. jim

[Michelle]

Are there affordable shuttles from Denver to Aspen? How much do they usually run?

Try either Resort Express (http://www.resort-express.com/) or Colorado Mountain Express (http://www.ridecme.com/) . They might now have merged into the same company, but try them anyway. You can also Greyhound from Denver-Summit County, and then hitch a ride from someone coming in from Summit. Also try United Express. They run a shuttle service by plane from Den-Aspen, but when the flights can't land they also run a bus service. You may have to call the 800# to figure that one out.

I would post a thread on here/BOL and ask who is flying in on the same day, leaving the same day, and ask to pay 1/2 gas for a ride. There should be someone that is coming that way on those days.

How far is that St. Moritz hostel from the slopes and other SES related functions? The St Moritz hotel is right in Aspen, walking distance to all of downtown Aspen's finest. However, we are riding at Snowmass, Buttermilk, and Highlands. Once you get into Aspen it's not a big deal to get to the other mountains, there is a free shuttle bus that takes you there inthe day, and i think it costs $2/ride after 5pm or something. Plus I am sure you can find a ride from someone at the SES - these guys are pretty nice if you buy them a beer or so :) . Check out themap of Aspen (http://www.aspenlodging.com/St__Moritz/moritz_contact.htm) with the St Moritz hotel on there.


Michelle, regarding these $36 hostel rooms at St. Moritz, how many people per room? Is this rate valid the entire week? Is it $36 per room or per person? I would contact them, and they can tell you all the details. I might get something wrong, and then everyone would be angry :mad: . It's best to get it from the source.

Glad you're excited. I am working on the final pricing, and it should be up on the web soon! Keep the questions coming, let me know if I can help with anything else.

[nekdut]

Try either Resort Express or Colorado Mountain Express . They might now have merged into the same company, but try them anyway. You can also Greyhound from Denver-Summit County, and then hitch a ride from someone coming in from Summit. Also try United Express. They run a shuttle service by plane from Den-Aspen, but when the flights can't land they also run a bus service. You may have to call the 800# to figure that one out.

Yikes, that runs about $100 each way. Thats $400 for my gf and I round trip. For that much I might as well just rent an SUV, and hopefully split it with a few more people. And I would have a car for the week too.

Okay thanks for the help Michelle! =)

[Michelle]

Sorry! That's about the best I can do. There really isn't a good shuttle from Denver to Aspen, it's a 4 hour drive. Your best bet is to either fly into Aspen or fly into Denver and rent a car. Just depends on your situation. If you are coming alone, it might be the same price to fly into Aspen as it will be to rent a car. If you are coming with a few other people, it would be worth it to rent a car.

[underdog]

trying to get there hopefully 2 of us from b-lo (we went to eces for 1st time last year) i was just wondering if we get something from a hotel or condo that includes lift tix is that ok or do we have to get a package from bomber? i know we would at least have to pay for the banquet and demo tent.

ps. i know this is a month after thier post but, toronto people: buffalo to denver is around 250.00 (last time i checked) and with the exchange being more favorable to you guys right know, it might be worth the 1hr drive and customs at the bridges here rather than at the airport? just my .02.

oh yeah- we would be flying into denver also so if anybody thinking of catching a ride or splitting (whatever) we are looking at mon or tues till sat or sun.

later-chris

[yyzcanuck]

Originally posted by underdog
...it might be worth the 1hr drive and customs at the bridges here rather than at the airport?

underdog, Not a bad idea, but I think I'll just clarify a couple things for those who consider the option of flying from BUF instead of YYZ...

The distance from Toronto (let's say the CNExhibition area) to Buffalo - Niagara International Airport is about 170km. I fly out of that airport pretty often (due to pricing) and have yet to make the trip in under 2 hours (to or from).

It's a crap shoot at the Queenston-Lewiston Bridge too... INS is usually pretty quick but the traffic can be heavy causing some pretty bad delays. INS has pre-clearance here in Toronto, so unless you're traveling on a high travel day, it's pretty painless to use the airport.

Also, for anyone that's planning to use this idea, don't forget to budget for parking at or near the airport. This isn't that expensive if you're just going for a couple days, but it sure adds up after a week.

[Michelle]

i was just wondering if we get something from a hotel or condo that includes lift tix is that ok or do we have to get a package from bomber?

You can always ask as the hotel/condo that you are making reservations through if they can include lift tickets, and at what price. However, we are getting such a screaming deal on the tickets that it may be worth it for you to buy the entire 6 days and just not use some of them. You can always try to sell the last 2 days to someone staying late. Check around, I am sure there is something you can work out.

[gmarsden]

Michelle

Are the lift tickets going to be for a
specific 6 days, i.e. Monday to Saturday.

Or a 6 of 7 type that I could use
Sunday to Friday?

Will the lift tickets be mailed out or
do we have to arrange pickup?

Thx - Greg

[Michelle]

You will have to pick them up from me, so you will have to find me (won't be that hard, just look for the tent. I'm in it all the time!). I don't think they will be for specific days, it will be more like a range (Feb 12 - 20th), or something like that. I am not exactly sure yet, I will find out more information before the prices go up.

[JJFluff]

It would be a shame if there was nobody there from Wisconsin to make fun of so I am going to do every thing I can to witness the event for my first time. Plus everyone can see what riding on midwest ice for 10 years can do for ones riding. Now if only I can find a friend to go with. Keep you posted, Jon

[D-Sub]

looks like your first post, eh?

welcome aboard! Im a relative noob too, but...anyway:)

[yyzcanuck]

If you don't mind the drive (approx. 35-40 minutes) from Glenwood Springs to the Aspen/Snowmass area... then consider this motel:

Cedar Lodge Motel
(970) 945-6579
http://www.cedarlodgemotel.net/

Room with 2 queen beds = $70+tax

[trikerdad]

When will we be able to sign up for the 6 pass package, and/or will we be notified when it's available?

[Michelle]

I am waiting for one more price, and then it will be available on the web site. I will put a thread on this forum when it is all available.

[D-Sub]

Originally posted by yyzcanuck
If you don't mind the drive (approx. 35-40 minutes) from Glenwood Springs to the Aspen/Snowmass area... then consider this motel:

Cedar Lodge Motel
(970) 945-6579
http://www.cedarlodgemotel.net/

Room with 2 queen beds = $70+tax

I would think one would be able to find something comparable in Carbondale, which is a little closer than Glenwood

Glendwood is a neat town tho. Was looking at RE there for a while.

[Michelle]

Glenwood Springs is a LONG drive, after a day of carving and if you want to go to any of the after parties, plus the weather could make it real fun driving, and you have to do it for 7 days! Carbondale or Basalt is a much better option, in my opinion. Basalt even has a Best Western. Check out the lodging page on the SES site.

[boogieman]

hello, im from belgium and i would like to come over but the plain tikets will already cost me a fortune and i would like to save a little on the hotel room if possible ive seen rates like 300 dollars a night in the hotels in aspen !!! and im not intending to pay 37,5 dollar an hour just to sleep so if anyone is interested in charing a room with me please let me know

thanks alex

[ARCrider]

Any chance to demo a swoard while in Aspen? I'll swap runs with one of my coilers for a few swoard runs. Any swoard players interested?

[fin]

Boogieman: write to Michelle at bomber@bomberonline.com as she has tons of information on housing options. Also, keep an eye on this board as people are posting looking for room-mates.

ARCrider: Good news, we will have three 175 Swoards at the SES this year and possibly more if the Swoard guys come again like last year. But for sure three. And they will be one of each of the stiffness levels so you can find the one you like the best.

[D-Sub]

sweet!

damn..I need to work this out!

[nekdut]

Hi all,

I have another question. How does the drive from Vail to Aspen compare to Denver? Are there reasonable shuttles from there? It appears that Vail is a little bit closer than Denver to Aspen.

[Michelle]

Yes, Vail is closer to Aspen than Denver. Basically, it is the same route you are just cutting about 2 hours off of the drive. So from Vail to Aspen it is about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. You also fly in on the west side of Vail pass, so if it is closed you have no problem still getting to Aspen (as long as the airport in Eagle/Vail is open). I don't know about shuttles from Vail to Aspen. You can try this web site. http://www.coloradomountainexpress.com/

MJ

[deepcarver]

Hi all,

You can get the Aspen Classic Pass for 4 or 7 days this year. Only one catch, you must be in person to buy it. They are going on sale in Glenwood Springs Oct. 23-24 and in Denver West at Christy Sports Oct. 30-31. The 4 day pass is $129, and the 7 day pass is $199. For more info. on the Aspen Classic Pass and more dates around CO, call 800.525.6200.

In other news Sue and I are now living in Edwards, CO and may be able to house a few on thier way to SES 05. We plan on attending most, if not all of the event this year. We have 3 extra showers and lots of floor space, just 2 extra beds, sorry!

For those driving to Aspen, we now own Marko's Pizza in Gypsum, CO which is on the way up. Stop by and have some good food and drink before making the long haul to Aspen. Gypsum, CO is two exits before the Glenwood Springs canyon.

Hope all of you are well,

Todd

[JoelP]

FYI on some Glenwood (GWS) info. I live here so I hope this helps someone. GWS is only 10 minutes from Carbondale and if you miss every light it may be 13 minutes. Another 10 minutes to Basalt (not much lodging in Basalt).

From my house to the base of Buttermilk usually takes me 45 minutes and a good day may be as little as 40 minutes. Only once did it take me about 1 hour and 15 minutes in a dumping storm. The roads are usually well taken care of but once in awhile they can't keep up. If it's dumping then just get up early and leave early, eat breakfast at the mtn.

Add 5 minutes if you go to Snowmass, Aspen or Highlands. Also add time for the Snowmass shuttle if you park in the free lot, then it takes about another 10 minutes from the lot to the base.

That covers your travel time, you add in your changing/goofing off time to that above.

GWS is a cool town with more to offer (my opinion) than Carbondale or Basalt. Much cheaper than Aspen/Snowmass. Many great restaurants to choose from and 1/2 the price too.

If you have questions feel free to write me at jparker@sopris.net

Have fun, Joel

[Pat Donnelly]

Further details are also available on line. . .

http://www.aspensnowmass.com/classicpass/

[Michelle]

I just talked to Resort Express and they do charters from Denver to Aspen. If anyone is interested, it would be $82 one way, and we would have to pick a time that works for everyone. We could do a couple of vans, but this rate is based on 10 people/van. Otherwise, you can go online (http://www.resort-express.com/) and get a deal for $79 from DIA to Hwy 82 and Brush Creek Rd which is Snowmass. You can then get a taxi or friend to bring you the rest of the way in to town. You can also book a door to door shuttle DIA to Aspen for $104.

If you are interested in this, please email me (bomber@bomberonline.com) and I will keep a running list of people. In January I can let everyone know what is going on with the transportation, maybe sooner if this gets a big response.

[yyzcanuck]

Originally posted by JoelP
.... eat breakfast at the mtn.


Just don't tell everyone where THE breakfast spot is in GWS!! There weren't many seats, and I don't want to wait!

[pm_wizard]

Dave,

We'll have to get up pretty early for breakfast if it's a 45 min plus drive to Aspen!!!!

Save me a seat.

John

[D-Sub]

man that sucks about that classic pass thing...gotta be there to buy...

guess its intended to benefit colorado residents. fair enough

wonder if theres a way to work around that one?

[Michelle]

You have to be there because they take your photo - it's just like a season pass but only good for a few days. Sorry

[D-Sub]

yeah...I see how it works...just sucks:)

too bad you cant mail in a photo:)

[Pat Donnelly]

But once you get your mug in Skico's system you can renew the following year by telephone.:D

[Jim Callen]

Also, I may be able to house 2 or 3 people at my place. I just need to ask my roomate about it. I live about 2 minutes from the slopes, and a 5 minute bus ride. Plus theres' a bus stop right next to my condo. If anyone is interested, please e-mail me.

[Michelle]

No plans for ski plane this winter to Aspen from DIA

By Naomi Havlen
October 20, 2004

A flight from Denver to Aspen that in the past has worked for a quick ski trip won't be running again this winter, in part because the airlines have learned to schedule planes to better serve out-of-state visitors.

The Aspen Ski Plane was a hit during the winter of 2001-2002, when it offered a round-trip flight between Denver and Aspen and a lift ticket for $99 plus tax. It was less popular the following season when it was offered only on weekdays.

The reason for the plane's demise this year and last is simply because of a new, more convenient schedule United is offering to Aspen that benefits flights connecting to Aspen from out of state, but leaves no room for a ski plane from Denver. What made the ski plane work for United Express was the fact that it had an empty plane running between Denver and Aspen early every morning.

"The first flight is now timed to make inbound connections from many of our top markets - Dallas, Chicago and Washington, D.C., to name a few," said Bill Tomcich, president of Stay Aspen Snowmass, the town's central reservation agency. "It's no longer an empty repositioning flight."

The ski plane didn't operate last winter - Tomcich said if it had, it would have had a very frustrating schedule.

"We counted maybe eight days in February and seven day sin March when flights were available in both directions to create a day trip up to Aspen," he said. "So instead of frustrating guests with never being available, why launch the program in the first place?"

The good news, however, is that flights are filling up throughout the holidays, and the connections make it easier for out-of-state guests to come quickly from Denver to Aspen after first arriving in Colorado.

"United has a much better schedule," Tomcich said, especially considering that guests from elsewhere in the country and the world spend their money on lodging and dining in Aspen, compared to day-trippers who ski, eat lunch and leave as it's getting dark.

[trailertrash]

Any body coming from the Boston area want to join up and rent a car/room.
Thanks
John

[Jeffrey Day]

...how's it going? Hey John, I don't know if you'll remember me, but I had gone to the Redbones night a few weeks ago! Anyway, I've been tossing around the idea of going out this year. Shoot me an e-mail and we'll see what we can hash out for some pre-liminary ideas, budgets, etc.
Talk to you later!

Happy trails!

[MozzMann]

I've been watching the Web Cams in the US from here in the southern Highlands and since my Tickets and vouchers for accomidation arrived today, I'm starting to dream of what the 2005 SES is going to be like . I guess I'll find out in 3 months 14 Days 15 Minutes if the Plane isn't late :) See you all soon .

MozzMann aka Maurie

PS The Oz Carve Web site is down due to my domain name agent's balls up .

[fin]

See ya there Mozzmann! :D

[MozzMann]

Oh Fin Mike said to say G'day to ya .

I think you know of whoi'm I speak ,

He's going to be in or around Aspen some where near the SES Dates and I think he's seriously changing some of his plans to get there.

Cheer's

[GeoffV]

I am thinking about going this year. Never been to the SES. Jeff I just dropped my boards off at Mikes and saw your new 167, looks great:D. I can get great rates on car rentals through work close to 50% off. Jeff you going with Bob J or is he doing his own thing.

[dantheman0177]

Mozz,
Got my air ticket booked on Friday. $1649AUD MEL - LAX so I am all systems go. I will be staying at the St Moritz when I get around to finalising that booking (spent all my spare cash on the plane tix).
Where are you flying into and when?
If I get up to Sydney before Feb I will drop you a line and try to catch up for a beer.

CAN'T WAIT PEOPLE!!!

Dan

[ARCrider]

how many people are going to Summit county after SES for week two? The extended session Feb20-25. I'm set already with my 4pack of tix for Breck, Keystone and A-Basin.
Haven't arranged accomodation yet. Any suggestions Fin? Bob?
Fireside hostel?
Beaver Creek is also on my list for a day visit.

[MozzMann]

Dan I leave Berridale and fly from Canberra on the 12th and into Devner and on to Aspen by 15:00 local on the 12 Feb and leave Aspen 20:30 on the 19th :)

[Jeffrey Day]

Hey Geoff,

Thanks for the kind words on my 167! The color of it sure draws the comments! I've been talking with John M. from Lynn, MA...so we have a group of 3 that are potentionally interested in working out some details about going out to The SES!! If we can find one more(or more!), we could look into finding a nice condo close to one of the ski areas!
Geoff & John, I'm not looking to spend alot of money on a condo, but seeing that this is a vacation, I like the idea of a ski in/ ski out condo! We would just have to agree on which mountain to stay at.
Geoff, it sounds like John & I are on the same page as far as wanting to go out on Saturday the 12th and returning on Sunday the 20th. how long are you thinking about going out for? Oh and discounts on car/suv...Excellent!!

That is it for now! Happy trails!

[gmarsden]

If you want ski in/out, I think your best
choice is Snowmass, which is what I
decided to do. You are pretty limited
at the other hills if you want a condo near
the hill.

[GeoffV]

Originally posted by Jeffrey Day
Hey Geoff,



I'm working on Ben Schurman right now. Lodging costs is a huge expense, so I'm still trying to price that out right now. But if I go I'm doing the whole trip 12-20th.

[reweston]

Would anyone be interested in going in on a 4-5 bedroom house for 7 nights during the event? If 5 of us go in on a house, it would be about $600 each MAX, less if there are couples staying in a room. I would be willing to do this with the right peeps.....I'm a 35 yo pharmacist from arizona, going solo. I party it up at night, put away the brew, but don't care to stay in a 'party house' for 5 days. In other words, I wouldn't be into inviting the whole hill over for a hoe-down. Here is an example of a house I am looking at for the week:

http://www.rentalsexpress.com/vacat...use6_rates.html

Also, if anyone else is going from AZ (very unlikely, I know), let me know maybe we can carpool. Thanks! If interested, email me at Robert.Weston@azwebmail.midwestern.edu

Robert

[nekdut]

Hey Fin/Michelle,

Are you guys going to allow us to ship you guys our equipment in advance to avoid airline hassles again this year?

Thanks,

Neil

[MozzMann]

What hassels did you have last year ???

You got me worried now!!

[nekdut]

Well some airlines can be pretty anal about their weight and dimension restrictions, as well as the fact its a snowboard and not skis. Depending on the trip I've found it easier to just ship my equipment ahead to where I'm going if there is a willing recepient :)

[GeoffV]

I'd like to hear from folks that have taking boards with them on the plane vs shipping. What if we just tell the airlines they are skis???:D They wouldn't know the difference, heck I'll call it a mono board. I'm going to research the airlines to figure out what the cut off is before the surcharges kick. My longest board is a 195.

[Michelle]

Shipping Boards to Bomber :

Since this is an out of town event for us as well, please contact your lodging person and inquire about sending boards directly to them. We are going to have a lot of items to carry over, and the vehicles will be very full. If you get in a tight bind, and are desperate, then contact me and I will see what I can do for you.

Accomodations in Summit:

If you are coming early or staying late for an Extended SES, check out the accomodations list here (http://www.bomberonline.com/SES/content/lodging_summit.cfm) . Prices are from last year, so you will have to contact the individual business for current rates. Fireside Inn in Brek is a B&B that is a bit out of the way (it's in Breck, about 1/2 hour drive from Copper, Keystone, and A-Basin. About 1 hour drive from Vail/Beaver Creek). Check out the SnowShoe Motel in Frisco (more centrally located) for cheaper accomodations with kitchenettes, or share a condo for even more savings with all ammenities. There are a few condos in Wildernest (in Silverthorne, also more centrally located) that are inexpensive, do a Google Search for Wildernest Condos Colorado and you will find plenty. Let me know if you still need help. Michelle (bomber@bomberonline.com)

Accomodations in Aspen:

This is a copy of an email I got today. 3 Cheers for Roger, looks like he has come to the rescue!

"I've read some of the postings on your website re: cost of lodging. Well, good news: from now until December 1, the St. Moritz Lodge is offering our value season rates for SES attendees. Hostel beds are $41.00pp, and lodge rooms are $136.00pp. Reservations only for arriving February 12 (can do one or two on 02/13) with a six-night minimum-stay requirement. Must book directly with the lodge. Whining about high cost of Aspen is prohibited. Please post or forward this message where appropriate.


Roger Haneman
manager
St. Moritz Lodge & Condominiums
Aspen, Colorado"


St Moritz (http://www.stmoritzlodge.com/)

[Michelle]

Also, I am working on hiring some vans (private) to take people from DIA to Aspen on Feb 12th. I will keep you informed.

[dantheman0177]

I believe that the maximum luggage allowance on United is about 20kg or 44lbs (all checked bags in total) before you pay excess. I was also told last year that they will not load a bag if it is over 60lbs because the baggage handlers supposedly won't touch it. However I managed to do a trip to CO and up to Canada two seasons ago with a snowboard bag of 185cm length that weighed in at 74lbs, and last year my bag was well and truly over the 60lb limit.

BUT....if you are nice to your check in agent, they will usually check it for you. And if all else fails, when they ask you to put your bag on the scales, stand it upright and hold it steady, with just a little subtle upward pressure to reduce the displayed weight. However I strongly recommend the "be nice and smile" approach (and an Aussie accent doesn't hurt either).

[NoSlide]

Ready for SeS 05. Thanks Scott, the 180 GS is schaweeeet lookin', new TD's enroute, I'll slam 'em on, pack the Hemi bed and head east to Ut for thanksgiving week.

Headed for the Summit resorts after SES. Frisco will be my base. Been there and know it now.

Can't wait to hookem up up with the local Tiehack crew. You guys dusted off your Mustangs yet :)

Trench dreaming....

[gmarsden]

Michelle

I am confused about the lift ticket on the
"Bomber day off". Are these not the
normal tickets that can be used for
6 days out of 10. So as long as my total
days are 6 or less, can't I use it on
the Wednesday.

Thx - Greg

[Damion Terrell]

I'm interested in joint lodging. Is anyone interested in a few 5 gal kegs of home brew? Todd, you still have space on your floor? Pizza and beer sounds like a good combo.

[Michelle]

Originally posted by gmarsden
Michelle

I am confused about the lift ticket on the
"Bomber day off". Are these not the
normal tickets that can be used for
6 days out of 10. So as long as my total
days are 6 or less, can't I use it on
the Wednesday.

You are correct Greg. The "day off" is named so because there are no official Bomber events on that day. However, your ticket is only good for 6 days, so if you use it on Wed you will be short a day.

[Rob-CanCarve]

Hi All:

I am planning to come to SES and currently look like I will be travelling solo from Toronto, Canada.

I am hoping to hook up with a group or create a group that has available space and hopefully some means of getting to and from the different resorts.

If there are groups looking for an additional lodger - please feel free to e-mail me with the details.

If there are others in the same postion as me, get in contact and maybe we can camp out together.

All the best,

Rob

[yyzcanuck]

Originally posted by Rob-CanCarve


If there are groups looking for an additional lodger - please feel free to e-mail me with the details.



Rob, contact C^2, aka csquared... he and his son were looking for roomies.

[NoSlide]

and loaded for SES 05. Can't wait. It's dumped hard here in SoCal this fall. We got 30 inches in our local mountains last saturday/sunday and expext another dump this weekend.

Gracias El Niño.

[pm_wizard]

Signed up and ready to go!

This should be great fun, a first time for me. I went to ECES last year, so I'm primed!

John

[Michelle]

The latest from our friend Roger at the St Moritz, dated 11/19/04:

"I erred in the rate for the standard lodge rooms. It is $136 for the room, single or double occupancy, not per person (plus a contribution to Colorado and the city of Aspen totalling 9.6%). I've got eight rooms still available."

[MozzMann]

I'm looking at trail maps on-line of aspen and am trying to figure out what areas we will carving in . any Ideas anyone :)

See you all in 2 Months 3 Days :D

[Michelle]

Hi Mozz

We will be carving at Buttermilk, Aspen mountain, Highlands, and Snowmass. Specific trails? We will be everywhere, taking over the mountains - they won't know what hit them!

[MozzMann]

2 :cool:, 2 :cool:, 2 :cool: .

C U all soon


Maurie

[Michelle]

Hey guys/girls

I just posted an item on the SES pricing page so that people can order a Van from DIA to Aspen. If you are interested, I will need to know 2 weeks prior to the event to set this up. This is non-refundable; once I make the reservations it will be set. These vans will be rented from Resort Express, and depending on interest we will have 2 vans, maybe more. We will have them leaving at 2 different times, for those of you who are getting in later. If you order this option, please also include your flight arrival time so that I can organize the vans the best way for everyone.

Let me know if you have questions.

MJ

[Michelle]

Just got this email thought it may help some of you.



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To book, call 800-679-3149 and mention the Mountain Saver Package or visit aspensnowmass.com/mtnsaver. All rates subject to availability at time of booking.


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With the Great Rates program, a family of 4 can transfer to and from EGE for just $46 per person each way and $89 per person each way from DEN. Reservations: www.ridecme.com or call 800-525-6363 or 970-926-9800. When placing reservations use the discount code “GREAT.” Not applicable with other promotional programs. Rates subject to change.

[Rusty]

My trip is booked!!

Coming into Vail airport on the 16th, hanging out with you guys for a few days and then a week+ in Utah!

Is anyone going for just the first part of the week and want to split the ticket package with me? E-mail me at rustyinnh@yahoo.com

Longshot I know but I'll give it a try.

BTW...The eagle airport had very good prices and I won't have to deal with what looks like a 5 1/2+ hour van ride from Denver. I booked through expedia and found one way tickets from Boston
for $253.

Edit: I booked my flight through Orbitz...
Flying on United both ways.
Boston to Aspen via Denver on the 16th and then returning from Salt lake City to Boston on March 1st for.....$297.40!!!

I think that's a good price but I can't be sure. What are you folks gettng there for?

[surfin'carver]

I know this is kind of "late"...been off the board since the last SES...anybody looking for roomies for the SES '05?
Myself and a buddy are looking to share something in town. Add 2 more people to the yearly event...wahoo!

[MozzMann]

Only 42 Days to go

[benno]

Hey Mozzman,
when's your website gonna be back up? Keen to have a look, I've only seen one other carver in Aus that I didn't already know! BTW I've flown in/out of Aus with heaps of gear (boards, skis, bikes, climbing gear, sometimes all of it on the one trip) and never had a problem.

Now to get back (almost) on topic, I wish I could be there, sounds like a blast! But I have to ask, Michelle, how come you guys aren't doing some of the other resorts in Summit like the other years? Aspen does have some of the best groomers around though drool.......

And who was at SES '04? I had to work unfortunately. I was kinda dissapointed that I didn't see a SINGLE CARVER ride my lifts (Rendezvous/Sierra) at Copper!! Wassup with that?

Tear it up guys, make a few turns for me.

Benno

[MozzMann]

Benny I'm trying to tee up a Carve event here in Oz but it's taking a while to get the resorts on side .

I'm getting organised to get a few T shirts as well .

Send me some Pickies ya slacko :p .

Mozz

[surfin'carver]

Hi All!
Signed up for my 2nd SES in a row! Now I'm still looking for roomies to share with...anybody need 2 extra roomies?
Let me know.

[Pat Donnelly]

Inside scoop
You can be there first if you plan ahead . . .


FREE FIRST TRACKS with Ski & Snowboard Schools of Aspen/Snowmass pros on Aspen Mountain and Snowmass, offered every day at Aspen Mountain call 970-925-1220 x3543 for reservations. And offered every Wednesday and Friday at Snowmass, 970-925-1220 or 800-525-6200. Valid lift ticket and reservations required.

The way this worked last year was you call in advance of your trip and one could make up to six reservations for a specific day. The group size was limited to 20 skiers/riders + one instructor (guide). First up load at 8:00 a.m. which is one hour before the general public.

[Michelle]

Originally posted by Pat Donnelly
Inside scoop
You can be there first if you plan ahead . . .


FREE FIRST TRACKS with Ski & Snowboard Schools of Aspen/Snowmass pros on Aspen Mountain and Snowmass, offered every day at Aspen Mountain call 970-925-1220 x3543 for reservations. And offered every Wednesday and Friday at Snowmass, 970-925-1220 or 800-525-6200. Valid lift ticket and reservations required.

The way this worked last year was you call in advance of your trip and one could make up to six reservations for a specific day. The group size was limited to 20 skiers/riders + one instructor (guide). First up load at 8:00 a.m. which is one hour before the general public.

We're already planning this. I have spoken to the mountain managers and they are making a special exception for us. Plan to be at the mountian early. I'll have more on this later.

[JJFluff]

I'm all set for Aspen, so count in another. I'm flying right into Aspen, probably just staying at the St. Moritz hostile and ruffing it a little. I'm coming out by myself, so I'm looking forward to meeting everyone and having an incredible time out in the mountains. I've had just about enough of this midwest weather, but hey, 5-8 inches possible tomorrow! To bad it's Wisconsin's first snow storm of the year! And when you guys are bumming because it hasn't snowed for a week, just think about us midwesterners riding on what feels like a snow cone. You can't beat granulated ice pellets, the edges just sink right in. Anyways, enough complaining, see everyone in Februrary. Jon

[JJFluff]

I was afraid of this,

I'm sorry, my subject is a movie quote from "Dumb and Dumber", Lloyd wants to move to Aspen, Harry say's "Aspen, I don't know Harry I heard the frence are......"
Just a joke, no harm meant. It's funny in the movie, because Harry is so stupid he think Aspen is in France, anyways, let it snow
Jon

[Jack Michaud]

Originally posted by Bob Jenney

Fly into/out of Aspen. It’s only a few dollars more which is easily offset by the costs of driving from Denver.

Also, you never know what sort of weather you're gonna get on I-70. Could be a complete drag driving from Denver to Aspen.

Actually flying in to Aspen is twice the price (as of today). However I just said eff it and bit the bullet. I'm flying into/out of Aspen - Yeehaw!!! Considering the time/distance/hassle/risk/cost of driving from/to Denver, it's not worth it for 3 days of riding.

CAN'T WAIT!!!

[Nakacarve]

Count in 1 more Canadian!

This will be my first SES, heck ES of any sort! Unfortunately it looks like only 3 days. The only way I could make this work was to stay with friends in Breck.

Is anybody else staying in the Breck area? I need to get up to Breckenridge or at least Frisco from DIA. I am arriving 2/12 at 7:30PM. I can book in with CME but think it would be great to meet some people. If you are in the Breck area, car pools from there to Aspen?

Damn this is going to be fun!

John

[Rusty]

Don't know if you booked already but it was cheaper for me to fly United into Aspen than it was to fly to denver only. I got it through Orbitz if that helps.

[benno]

hey moz,
let me know when and I'll be all over it like a rash! what mtn were you thinking?

benno

[MozzMann]

Dunno yet Benny, but it'll probably Thredbo where we can ride the WALL "Racecourse" and a Day or 2 At Perisher on the boarder X course.

I'll feel out the various managments through the last part of summer and into Autumn to gauge what sort of acceptance.

This may seem a silly question but what sort of events are planned .


Mozz

[dantheman0177]

Mozz,
I would be super keen for a weekend of carving in Oz.
Hotham has some runs that would be pretty good. Buller is well groomed but gets tracked out and bumpy most afternoons by the day trippers. Haven't been to Falls or Thredbo, but I am happy to do a road trip to where ever will have us.
As for SES, all paid for as of yesterday, so will definately catch up there.
Cheers
Dan

[MozzMann]

Do my eyes decieve me or do I see it right on the Aspen-Snowmass Web Site .

I have been watching for the last 2 weeks or so and have not seen a lot of sun, with upwards of 41 inches in the last 7 Days on a 73 inch base I'd say things are gunna' be whicked. :)

I havn't seen the Temps so I can only assume it's light and dry .

I gotta bring my Burton Custom by the looks of things, but is it worth repacking and organizing to bring both boards whe we are really there to carve.

It just seems a waste not to have at least 1 Day to partake in some good powder , something we don't often see down under at least not the depth's you experience in the US.

Mozz

I'm getting turned on 29 Days to go not that I'm counting mind :p .

I wonder if I should put some extra money aside in case we all get snowed in :D .

[Michelle]

Well, here in Summit County it is snowing, and it is light and flufffy. In trying to get to work early this morning I was delayed by having to dig my car out! The roads are pretty crappy too, but we seem to have had quite a bit overnight. The local weather says Aspen is also getting a bit of snow, but we should hear it from the locals there. Jim? Pat? We want the scoop!

[Pat Donnelly]

It's raining North of Detroit today and heading to near 60*F - look out yyz, this front in heading towards you.

I read they raised the EPIC flag at Highlands yesterday for the first time this season!

Link to conditions at Aspen's four mountain's http://www.aspensnowmass.com/onmountain/reports/default.cfm

Grooming report http://www.aspensnowmass.com/onmountain/reports/grooming.cfm?area=Buttermilk

short term extended outlooks for Colorado, California areas www.snowforecast.com

[pm_wizard]

Well... we woke up to freezing rain this morning, and it's been plain rain ever since... nice to see it's cold and snowy in Aspen anyhow.

Nice link with the forecasts etc Pat, thanks,

John

[JJFluff]

Wisconsin went from the nicest snow I've seen in the area in years, to lightning and thunder as we speak. Then, in two days, the high temperture is 8. So if anyone has a board out there that is about 280cm long, I'm going to need it. At the same time though, the only thing good about the rain is it reminds me that it's like Warren Miller sais, "If I don't move to Colorado this year, I'll be one year older when I do." Anyways just wanted to add to the weather reports, gotta go find my ice skates.... see ya Jon

[surfin'carver]

Well, nobody responded to my request for sharing a place in Aspen...so I'll be staying in Basalt like last year. Looking forward to seeing everybody again! Wife will not be coming as we have done too many vacations this year...she's run out of time off.
Hope to learn as much this year as I did last year:)

[Michelle]

Hi everyone! The SES is fast approaching and we need to make you aware of a couple of things.

1. The tickets need to be purchased no later than 15 days before the start of the SES. I have to order them ahead of time, so any purchases made after January 28th are NOT GUARANTEED!!! If you are planning to come to the SES, please purchase your lift tickets NOW!

2. If you are still in need of lodging, there are a few people looking to share rooms. Please post a thread on this forum if you need a room to share. This is the most economical way to spend a week in Aspen - SHARE a room! Most condos go for $150-200/night, and sleep up to 4 people (this is average, there are other deals out there). I am going to start a new thread titled: SES HOUSING SHARE so everyone can respond there.

3. Any items you would like to purchase from us to be delivered at the SES needs to be done no later than 3 days before the SES. We will not have additional equipment to sell at the SES, so if you need boots, board, liners, bindings, etc please go to the web site and place the order. In the comments section put "PICK UP AT SES" and I will bring it with me to Aspen.

4. As the event gets closer, I will be posting more information on this thread, so stay tuned. If you have any questions, you can email me (bomber@bomberonline.com) .

See you soon!

[nekdut]

Are there any schedule clinics such as on tuning or on stance/setup like what Gilmour did out east?

How about carving lessons? I remember last year there was talk about lessons for carvers intermediate and up. Also, I'm bringing 2 experienced softbooters who want to try alpine gear, are there going to be lessons for people like them?

[Michelle]

Originally posted by nekdut
Are there any schedule clinics such as on tuning or on stance/setup like what Gilmour did out east?

How about carving lessons? I remember last year there was talk about lessons for carvers intermediate and up. Also, I'm bringing 2 experienced softbooters who want to try alpine gear, are there going to be lessons for people like them?

We are working on tuning clinics and stance/setups clinics with some of the local folks out here. We will notify everyone at the event if this will happen.

Carving clinics we are also working on with the guys from SnowPerformance. Great guys that host unbelievable camps during the season, and they usually show up and give you guys some tips. However, beginning carvers should contact the mountain for lessons. I would contact the mountains now and get it set up. Be sure to specify that you want a lesson in HARD BOOTS. You are welcome to get gear from us in the morning, and go on to your lesson from there.

[Sean]

I will be at the SES from Tues thru Friday. Alot of folks are asking so I will plan to run one clinic a day. As soon as I can figure out the details with Fin & Michelle I will post the info on this thread. Looking forward to seeing everyone at Aspen.
-Sean
Snowperformance.com

[appel_exec]

Hi All,

The good news for me is I'm going to be down in Aspen on a group trip for a week; the bad news is it will be the week AFTER the SES (arrrgh!).

Based on the size of Snowmass, it would probably take some time to try and figure out which runs are the best for carving.

Can someone tell me what would be the best couple runs for carving for an intermediate carver ?

Thanks,
Steve.

[gmarsden]

There is a thread called Ses by Matt Deal from a few days ago that describes some of the runs at Snowmass and the other Aspen hills.


- Greg

Ses (http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?threadid=4658)

[MozzMann]

This may seem a silly question but what are the current Transport Arrangements between mountain areas at SES and the various Apres parties planned . ?

[Michelle]

There is a bus system that runs between Aspen and Snowmass, and I think it is $2/ride after 5pm. However, if you talk to people during the day, I think lots of people will have cars and can give you a ride.

[JoelP]

There are continous buses running from each mtn to other mtns all day, free and they start early. For instance Buttermilk to Highlands or vise-a-versa starts at 7 and runs every 15 minutes up to noon and then every 1/2 hour until 2:30 and then every 15 minutes again. So transportation is very easy. To Snowmass after ski hours there may be a charge as Michelle mentioned, I am never am around that late but I do know the buses run till after midnight from Aspen to Snowmass, the 2 night scene places.

so if you hook up with others that have a car...great...if not do not worry there is plenty of easy transportation and the drop offs are a few steps from the slopes.

Joel

[nekdut]

Michelle,

Is there any way to arrange a partial lift ticket and demo package? I have two friends who are arriving on Tuesday evening and would like to get 3-4 days of lift tickets plus use of the demo equipment and parties/banquet/etc.

[Jack Michaud]

Are these reports accurate?
http://www.aspensnowmass.com/onmountain/reports/default.cfm?var=1&hasFlash=1

Base depths sound kind of discouraging...? How is the carving? Anybody riding in Aspen regularly?

[MozzMann]

I wouldn't worry too much Jack here in Oz we sometimes only make it to a 35 - 40 in Base .

Plus it's snowing again anyways according to the weatherchannel and the Aspen Cams too.

See ya in a fortnight.

:D

[ARCrider]

what should I expect for temps? Trying to travel light and would like to leave my extreme cold gear at home if at all possible. by cold gear I mean -30 -40 degrees.

[Pat Donnelly]

Expect warm coffee in the a.m. followed by cold beer and 103* hot tubs in the p.m.

;)

[JoelP]

It's been snowing a little every day here for the past 4 days.. Few more inches each day. Conditions are awesome. Powder stashes are all over Snowmass and Highlands. Mellower stashes at Buttermilk are still in the trees. Snow coverage is good enough to go anywhere.

Carving on Saturday at Buttermilk was hero snow and blue sky!!!!!! AND no one out. I was shocked that I did not see any other carvers out. Xgames has kept people away from Buttermilk for the last week. rode my 196 all day and only crossed my own grooves. Top to bottoms and traffic was down to 2 or 3 skiers a run. Sunday had bad visibility for carving but another 4+ inches.

FYI's

If you drive into Aspen fill up your gas tank when leaving Glenwood. Gas in Aspen is $2.42 a gallon... ouch.... So fill up before you get up there.

Also if you are driving be super cautious at night on hwy 82 from Glenwood to Basalt. there are 600+ (up to 1000) head of Elk wintering along the hwy in the fields. Believe me they are big and they are migrating back and forth across the hwy. There are plenty of warnings posted but still there is at least one or more accidents a night.

I'll post more after next weekends outing.

Joel

[Jack Michaud]

<b>JoelP</b>, you are the man with the inside dope. How are the temperatures? Here in NE, I am used to wearing fleece pants, snow pants, polypro shirt, sweater, fully insulated parka, helmet, and often a balaclava.

When I went to Tahoe, just a polypro shirt and a shell were all I needed on top. Is Aspen similar?

[Pat Donnelly]

Jack,

try http://www.intellicast.com then enter ASE for location to get an idea of what to pack. The Aspen airport (ASE) is within a half mile of Buttermilk. I would expect no colder than mid to mid to upper teens in the a.m. and perhaps mid 30's or into the 40's if there is sunshine by afternoon. BRING SUNCREEN. Of course, it can be a few degrees cooler at the tops of the higher elevations but the sun can burn at any el, you may not feel it as much as you would at lower el.

Suggest all us flat landers start to hydrate well before arrival.

[JoelP]

Here is what I wear 9 out of 10 times.

mid weight Patagonia Capilene underwear on my legs and mid weight turtlenck top. A fleec vest, mid weight shell pants, Mid weight shell jacket. I bring a fleece neck pullover but use it rarely, if you need it, it's for the high speed quads in the morning. Helmet and mid weight gloves. Pants and jacket have pit & leg zips for air...use a lot!!!!

I have insulated jacket and think I've worn it once every 2 years.

Pending on when you are coming you can look up the long range forcast. It will usually be pretty right or near right.

Leave the fleece pants at home.....that would be the last item you would need here.

Instead of the insulated jacket bring a fleece top and a mid weight jacket and light jacket. Between those you can combo to make anything work. I used to wear fleece tops but now just use fleece vests (mid weight) that way with a windbreaker I can make it work. Otherwise I sweat and die...

We can run into a cold snap......20 deg....but that rarely lasts more than a day this time of year. January is the coldest month in general and we are through that now.

Typical Feb/March may be 2 or 3 days of dumpage...temps in the 20's ...then followed by days of sun in the mid 30's to low 40's. It doesn't affect the snow much due to altitude and sun angle until late March.

lastly, if you have a camelback...BRING IT.....water is good up here.

Hope that does it.

Joel

[pm_wizard]

Joel,

Thanks for the detailed list, it's very helpful for packing!

John

[trailertrash]

man its gonna be a long week at work....

[MozzMann]

Especially since there is between 10-20 inches of that white powdery stuff forcast to fall over the Aspen area in the next 48 Hrs or so with 30% chance right through Saturday.

Mozz

[yyzcanuck]

weather - ASPEN (http://www.intellicast.com/Local/USLocalStd.asp?loc=kase&seg=LocalWeather&prodgrp=Forecasts&product=Forecast&prodnav=none&pid=none)

[nekdut]

Hmm, carving will be interesting with a whole week of fresh ahead of us =).

We can't complain about powder though :D

[pzenti]

Not too geeky; but interested in an economy plan accomodation for the week:rolleyes: ...any ideas appreciated

[dantheman0177]

Check out St Moritz Lodge (www.stmoritzlodge.com). Stayed there last year and it is good value budget accom.