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palmer7716
May 29th, 2004, 04:15 PM
Could anyone give me the 411 on Burton "Rat Trap" bindings? What is the actual model name? Are they any good? Can they support a rider at 185 lbs? Thanks!

Jack Michaud
May 29th, 2004, 05:06 PM
"Rat Trap" is a nick name for the Burton Race Plate, which was born in 1994 and made through 2002 (3?). A lot of racers use these because they are less rigid (good for race ruts), but they do so at their own peril because they eventually break. If you can ride for 10 seconds and come to a semi-conrolled stop with only one foot on the board, then you're all set.

Unless (I assume you are buying a used pair) the seller is using the term loosely, he could be referring to the old style steel wire-frame bindings, which are junk.

Art
May 29th, 2004, 05:16 PM
Hey Jack, these are the Burton Step ins with the steel base plates and the spring loaded rear bails. I called them rat traps cause I dont know their official name. I,m 6'2", 180 and had ridden these pretty aggressivly without any problems. IMHO, they are a decent cruising binding. Would I recommend them for racing or bumps? No. BTW, i'm the seller. Pile on everybody!:D

Chris Houghton
May 29th, 2004, 06:29 PM
I think these were called "step in race plates". I had a pair back in 97 or so, they worked OK but as Jack said, pretty flexy.

zaphod
May 29th, 2004, 06:50 PM
rat trap is right, they'll break your fingers if you're not careful. my experience with them is neither good nor bad. unlike many on this forum i have never broken a burton binding, though i've worn a few out. i found the rat traps a reliable connection to the board, but the relative complexity of the mechanism makes me hesitant to recommend them.

zaphod out...

bobdea
May 29th, 2004, 11:10 PM
there is no sense in getting these BUT if you have older Burton boots that do not take intec heels and you want stepins its a good choice
they are soft and do wear out so if they look like they have had allot of use stay away
I consider them a decent freeride/freecarve plate best used at lower angles in the 50s or so
if you have a real skinny deck like 19 cm or even 19.5(and a size 28 boot) they flex too much IMHO
for me at least
this is based on myself I am about 260 and 6 ft tall so it could be less of a issue for you
my old lady prefers Burton plates over Bombers and Cateks I have tried to sway her over to the Bombers a couple times as I hate to see a pair of great bindings sit around and gather dust but to no avail

Jack Michaud
May 30th, 2004, 06:14 AM
Originally posted by Art
Hey Jack, these are the Burton Step ins with the steel base plates and the spring loaded rear bails. I called them rat traps cause I dont know their official name.

Ooohhhh yeah. Those rat traps. I checked those out in a store once and killed my finger. yeowch!

bobdea
May 30th, 2004, 11:46 AM
a guy I was working with was looking at mine and tweaked a his fingers pretty good

D-Sub
May 30th, 2004, 03:16 PM
hell yeah that spring mechanism is kinda scary when youre workin on em

I had a pair, rode em for a bit..didnt have any probs except getting the release working while strapped in was a flexibility challenge for me at 6'2"

I rode em fairly hard...didnt break didnt release