Snow Summit Updates

[skipatroll]

This thread is to help the So Cal carvers have a place to find out who is coming up to Snow Summit or Bear Mt that week and what the conditions are without having to keep starting new threads

[skipatroll]

We are making snow since Sunday night and conditions have improved dramatically since Sunday. In addition ,we got about 3 inches of natural snow on Sunday night. Looks like we will slow down in about 16 hours but we have a great base going. Temps are forecast to be no higher than 40's so carving should be great this weekend! Still have not gotten on that Prior 4WD so hope I can hang onto it until early next week. (Its in my office if you want it A.! )If not....my loss. Call me if you all get a chance to come up



Dennis

[oldvolvosrule]

DEnnis, thanks for the update. I would think that the snow is going to stay good for awhile with the temps that we are experiencing. Looks like we might have a few riders up on Sunday over at Bear this time.

You can hang onto the 4wd, I won't be riding it for a bit. If I do need it, I will just return it back to your office when I am finished.

Gald to see that you got that avatar thing figured out, did you use the photobucket site to do it??

[skipatroll]

Used the tinypic.com website that Jack recommended. Said it did not upload but it magically happened. Picture is about 11 years old but is a fav for my dog that passed away

Thanks for the 4WD rental. I am at Bear Wed so I will get you an update on Silver Mt for riding...Jim's turf!

About one more week and I get the new Metal Donek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skipatroll]

Missed Terry today since I left my cell phone home. Snow was great on Tuesday and Weds. Today we had strong winds and the suface got a little windblown but still very carvable and fun. The wind is hitting hard but hopefully we wil make snow tonight. Did not make snow last night and Tuesday night we finished about 200 am. Not as long as we would have hoped for but we made a ton of snow during that time. Groomers tonite will make it great again and after the Santa Annas move out it should be excellent. Rode Bear yeterday and spent several hous on Exhibition (Chair 4) on epic carving snow.

PS ...rode the 179 Prior4WD today. GREAT RIDE...GOTTA GET ONE!

[gdboytyler]

After Dennis' earlier report, I really wanted to take a vacation day and go to Bear on Wed. But I had a 2 hour conference call that I needed to attend.

Come in to work on Wed morning, and the damn conference call was re-scheduled. I was quite pissed.

Hopefully the conditions stay excellent over the weekend.

[KingCrimson]

Dennis-

Decided today that I'm not going to play football next season (my little head smack on the 25th was a reminder that I need to stop the contact sports) :lol:

I can negotiate my way down most runs (not carving, but not in survival mode) at this point in time...so, I'm going to do OEC this summer, and hopefully be a Mountain Host at Mt. Baldy (since they are nice enough to take me :D) for a season, then potentially be an Aux the next season (2010-2011) with 2 years of OEC under my belt (I figure this makes the most sense so that when I need to be playing with blood, I've gone through the course twice :p)

[skipatroll]

If you want to work at Summit I can hire you as Mt Security with no first aid. Otherwise if you take ARC First Aid(EMT reconmmended) I can take you on staff as a volunteer. You get a seasons pass for you and family. Just need 14 days a season

[skipatroll]

Sitting at the house and looking at the slopes. Can see the guns going...they are at about 2000gpm right now...looking good for this weekend at both resorts

[KingCrimson]

If you want to work at Summit I can hire you as Mt Security with no first aid. Otherwise if you take ARC First Aid(EMT reconmmended) I can take you on staff as a volunteer. You get a seasons pass for you and family. Just need 14 days a season

You guys don't use OEC training at Summit? Do you accept it as an equivalent to the program that you use?

As I understand it, it's the standard for patrolling. I think NSP even developed it.

I'm not old enough to legally work, but Baldy WILL let me start the process of being a patroller, which is why I'm doing it there. Very low injury rate there (just a bunch of old guys talking about Stein Erickson! :lol:) and none of your common jib injuries. NSP says no patient contact till age 16, but my birthday is in October, so I'll be fine in that respect.

In 2 years I may be makin' turns wearing Red, I'd love to volunteer up there, plus I won't have anymore excuses not to come to Summit ;)


Googled ARC, if you're talking about the professional rescuer advanced first aid, that's a prerequisite to taking Outdoor Emergency Care anyway. Also, correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't OEC almost the exact same training as EMT but not the same certification?

[Arclite]

hey dennis, what would be the requirements for volunteer work? as in a guy that patrols and looks for injured people but doesnt know anything so he calls you and you come and patch him up.

[KingCrimson]

No clue what Summit does, but Baldy has the "Mountain Host" program. The candidate program is more or less one in the same as Mountain Host.

That is essentially their job along with dealing with other crap (generally digging out after a storm; cleaning up the patrol room; providing coffee for the other patrollers; assisting nervous, timid, or otherwise stuck skiers)

I know the NSP requires you to take the 16 hours of American Red Cross professional rescuer Advanced First Aid, and the mountain does any other training necessary prior to the season. That's likely to be the "minimum" amount of training necessary to throw on a jacket and get free lift tickets. But why don't you want to go full bore and provide first response medical treatment?? That's the whole reason I want to get into patrolling. It's not about the tickets, the gear, or anything else, I want to find some kid with a tib/fib fracture with his foot facing the wrong way, pop him in a splint, and drag him down the mountain. I want to be the first one to give people a hand. I'd want to patrol if lift tickets cost me twice as much.

To be honest, the whole "resort" thing grosses me out. I don't really like knowing that I show up as a consumer, scrape some snow off the mountain, and then leave without contributing. It's like a personal fulfillment thing for me to want to patrol.

They say that things you hate the most in other people are issues you have yourself, I hate takers and love givers, and to know that I show up and contribute will make me feel a helluvalot better. :biggthump


Alright...back to designing my approach skis.

[skipatroll]

Not sure what you are talking about here you guys. This is a carving board and not a Patrol Board .I have been on patrol for 30 years. I am the director for Bear Mt Resorts and have been voted the outstanding patroller in the US so please understand what it is that you are saying on line. Do not talk poorly about any mountain or program! OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS I am an OEC Instructor trainer and have been for 22 years. I know every patrol director in the state of California so stick to talking about carving and lay off patrolling! I am not happy to see these comments about patrol on a carving board!

[KingCrimson]

Sorry if I came across in some manner. I meant no disrespect, and wasn't trying to criticize. Honestly, I'm just trying to get information out of you so that I can make the process easier! :lol:

I was confused because you mentioned only ARC First Aid and not OEC for volunteer work.

Theo

[skipatroll]

Email me and I will give you my phone number and you can get info from me over the phone. No worry....I do not bite

[surfnsnow]

Dennis, waht's your inside info on weather Sunday? The paper makes it look like things just might be clearing up by then.

[skipatroll]

Got a lot of wind last night but just a dusting of snow. Very windy and starting to cool down at 200 pm. Still 36 degrees. Expecting heavy snow tonite through Saturday. Sunday is expected to be clear with good snowmaking temps. Watching the storm on radar at the moment is showing is swinging North of us but I expect to see it drop...we will see!

[skipatroll]

We got about 8-10 inches of new fresh powder. really dry snow and we may get a little more today. The main portion of the storm tracked north earlier yesterday but we still have great conditions.

[oldvolvosrule]

Dennis, did you receive your new metal Donek yet?? I thought you said it would be in last week. Post a pic if you received it!!!:eplus2:

[skipatroll]

Did not get Donek to ship until Wed. So it will not be here until Monday. They said they would ship the previous Friday and then Tuesday but it went on Wed. They were really busy due to Sean traveling and the SES coming up so everything is cool.

[KingCrimson]

Oooh Metal Donek?!

Good thing we have all this new snow. Trust me, it HURTS when you scratch a metal board. It's like having your soul scratched.

Which model did you get?

[Arclite]

Oooh Metal Donek?!

Good thing we have all this new snow. Trust me, it HURTS when you scratch a metal board. It's like having your soul scratched.

Which model did you get?

Freecarve II I think

[surfnsnow]

Dennis: I dropped by the patrol office at the top of chair 2 around 10:00 just to say hi and to thank you again for the BBQ a couple weeks ago. They said you were at the base. Sorry to have missed you. Maybe next time.

[skipatroll]

Sorry, I was at the base and did not get up on the hill until about 11. Took a couple of runs with my dog and then headed over to Bear and watched the operation over there for the afternoon

[skipatroll]

Yep...got the Freecarve II 167 to replace my 163 Volkl RT SL board. Need that shorter board for patrol work. Next board will be a 179 Prior 4WD. Looking to get that in August when Prior release their 2010 models/topsheets. Got the Donel Metal graphics on the topsheet. Can't wait to see it!

[KingCrimson]

Very nice. Have fun on it!

[skipatroll]

Woke up to about 6-8 inches of dry powder and high winds with snow coming down. Should get more snow later today. It has stopped temporarily but it looks like another large band is headed our way. (See Bensweather.com and look at the local radar selection on the left then press the play button at the bottom right of the image)

[KingCrimson]

Woke up to about 6-8 inches of dry powder and high winds with snow coming down. Should get more snow later today. It has stopped temporarily but it looks like another large band is headed our way. (See Bensweather.com and look at the local radar selection on the left then press the play button at the bottom right of the image)

Again Dennis, thanks for the realistic snowfall totals. Mt. High is especially bad about what powder is, and how much of it fell.

[skipatroll]

It has been dumping all morning. We have gotten about 16 inches and it is still snowing hard at about 2 inches per hour. Thinking we will wind up with close to 2 feet. I update after the storm passes by.

Another large one headed here for Sat/Sun/Monday.....yahoo!

With the slides and road closures, I cannot believe that Fedex will probably not get here with my new board today!

[GeorgeS]

Wow it looks like it will be good this week into next. I'll be up there this Thursday. Thanks for all the reports Dennis.

I just looked at the larger picture of your avatar and recognized the board, I still have one here just like that.

[skipatroll]

Ironically the snow report is stating 14-18 inches of new and it is really closer to 20-24 inches that we got on the mt. Riding is great and conditions at 700 am were 10 degrees with clear skies.

[KingCrimson]

Thought it looked like one of those little Rossis.

Did the Donek show up yet Dennis?

[skipatroll]

330 has been closed since Monday due to avalanches and 38 has been closed to trucks and buses. Therefore there has been no UPS or FEDEX deliveries. My board is sitting at Fedex in Rialto. Maybe tommorrow...we will see. Very frustrating! At least you guys were nice enough to let me ride the 179 Prior 4WD...lots of fun in he new powder and fresh grooms. Laying out 3-6 inch trenches with it

[D-Sub]

Dennis...

could someone pick it up for you? probably not, I guess due to likely needing a sig?

[skipatroll]

The metal Donek jusr arrived at 540pm when I happened to back at my office. Will ride it tomorrow and try to get some pics.

[Terryw]

Congratulations! Aaron and I are contemplating being up on this Friday. Maybe you can show it off! :biggthump

[Arclite]

The metal Donek jusr arrived at 540pm when I happened to back at my office. Will ride it tomorrow and try to get some pics.

What are the specs for the FCII?

[KingCrimson]

Length, Eff Edge, SCR, tip, waist, tail, stiffness, # of clams

<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=600 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width=170>167 Freecarve II </TD><TD width=55>167 </TD><TD width=55>150 </TD><TD width=55>10.6 </TD><TD width=65>24.90 </TD><TD width=65>19.50 </TD><TD width=65>24.90 </TD><TD width=45>7.0</TD><TD width=35>680</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

19.5 is getting skinny by today's standards, and the FC2 is the wider model!

[Arclite]

Length, Eff Edge, SCR, tip, waist, tail, stiffness, # of clams

<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="600"><tbody><tr><td width="170">167 Freecarve II </td><td width="55">167 </td><td width="55">150 </td><td width="55">10.6 </td><td width="65">24.90 </td><td width="65">19.50 </td><td width="65">24.90 </td><td width="45">7.0</td><td width="35">680</td></tr></tbody></table>

19.5 is getting skinny by today's standards, and the FC2 is the wider model!

I guess i should of known you would answer :rolleyes:

[KingCrimson]

Pardon me for being passionate about the sport.

Also, that's should've, not should of. Makes sense does not that.

[skipatroll]

Did not get to ride today since I had some personal issues to handle. Did get the Donek waxed so I am ready to ride on Friday. Hope the weather holds till at least noon.

[carvingchef]

that's a very nice looking board Dennis
i will be at Snow Summit on the 22nd and i will have my camera, let me know what area and what time and i'll be happy to take pictures of you in action

[skipatroll]

Hope you are feeling better. Curious to see how she rides tomorrow.

[skipatroll]

Well we did not get the 2-3 feet expected however at this time we got about 16-18 inches solid. The wind was so bad visibilty was a couple of feet. Best way up was thu Lucerne Valley. I will know better on the snow accumulation when I get up the Mt in the am. Winds were so fierce tat I cannot figure out the total snowfall as of tis time. Finally stopped snowing about 8 pm. The next day we picked up about another 3-4 inches so we got close to 2 feet. Riding is great. Air has been clear and dry but cold on Wed.

[Bullwings]

Any word on when the 330/18 will re-open?

[skipatroll]

Looks like it will reopen sometime on Weds

[KingCrimson]

Dennis- when it storms up there like this are you stuck in the village?

Must be nice having the mountain more or less empty.

[megtrimix]

hi Denny, tomorrow i WANT be there, i come from palm springs, and i'll drive from the back yucca valley, the road condition are fine or....?
thanx!
are you there tomorrow?
beppe

[Arclite]

How is the FCII holding up?

[KingCrimson]

Those Doneks...always breaking.

[skipatroll]

330/18 should open sometime. Got about 3-4 inches today. Ridiing is great. Yesterday, I left at 800 am to get my wife at LAX and got back at 700 pm. Came up thru Lucerne. Roads are good now but you need chains.

The reason I bought a Donek Metal is because of their two year warranty so no problems expected. Still like the 4WD for these soft days.

I am working at Bear tomorrow and will have Thursday off and freeride that day. Will be on the Donek and trying to figure out how to tame that beast.

Have to work on Friday and will not be off until the following Thursday and Friday I think.

I rarely get stuck with 35x12.50x17 tires on a lifted 2002 4wd Yukon but it is the others that block the road with poor driving and decision making. As a town that depends on tourism, we do not like to see the roads close but it is nice to have more of the mountain to ride when that happens.

[KingCrimson]

That, and I think about 2 have broken in the history of production! :lol:

[Terryw]

Hey Dennis, likely Aaron and I will see you tomorrow. We are planning on hitting summit and look forward to taking some turns with you. I want to see that metal board in action!

[skipatroll]

AAron....is your dad coming up...if so let me know. My phone died today and I don't know if you called or not. I plan to be a Summit around 830 am so I can get a ticket for him at the patrol room. Just give me his name and I will write it up over the phone about 800am and you can pick it up at patrol.

[oldvolvosrule]

Dennis, my pops won't be joining us tomorrow so don't worry on the ticket. Just got off the phone with my sheriff friend and he informed me that Hwy 18 won't be open until Friday afternoon. Terry and I are debating on what to do, either drive 38 up and back tomorrow or wait until Friday and take 38 up and hopefully they will have 18 open to drive down into the valley. Check this thread later for an update

[Arclite]

Hey Dennis, which mountain do you plan to be patrolling on sunday?

[Bullwings]

Went up today (2-18-09).

HERO snow most of the day.

I went up with the tanker 192, TD2.5s, and Track 325s with yellow BTS.

awesomeness. I knew there was a reason i switched to hardboots in the first place.

Definitely the best carving conditions of the year.

330/18 was still closed. I came around the backside (huh huh ;)) up the 15N, bear valley rd, and then the 18. My brother lives pretty far north on the 15, so that was the faster way for me.

[skipatroll]

Heard the same about the Artic Circle. Sounds like maybe Friday night. They said they have about 30 slide areas to clear ...some as deep as 15-16 feet. On Frday thru Sunday I will be managing the patrol at Snow Summit so maybe I will see you guys then. After riding Weds as hard as I ever have, I am staying home on Thursday to do stuff around the house. Sorry I will miss you Terry and Aaron. PS I could see you guys from my house on chair 7 in the am...unmistakeable carving lines from 3/4 miles away

[skipatroll]

They are stilll working on 18 from Running Springs..closed at this time. In addition, North Shore Drive (38) from the dam to Fawnskin is closed due to a house getting ready to slide down the hill from snow and debris slides. Plan on 38 thru Redlands or 18 from Lucerne. Check with

http://socalmountains.com/roads.php

for the latest on these roads. Riding is good but it is definetely warmer today. (48 degrees at 10:30)

[favdunc]

hwy 18 is open as of 12:00 friday according to k bear

[Arclite]

hwy 18 is open as of 12:00 friday according to k bear

Hey Richard, do you plan on being up in Snow Summit on sunday?

If so, post a reply on the Feb. 22nd thread :biggthump

[carvingchef]

Dennis,
i will be at snow summit tomorrow and i will have my camera, let me know if you want some pictures, just tell me where to find you and what time
see you tomorrow

[skipatroll]

Sorry I have been able to ride with you guys but work issues have had me tied up for the last week. I will be around this weekend the 28th and the 1st in case anyone is up here. Snow is spring like but carveable and heavy

[KingCrimson]

Dennis - http://www.bomberonline.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=24974

[Arclite]

Sorry I have been able to ride with you guys but work issues have had me tied up for the last week. I will be around this weekend the 28th and the 1st in case anyone is up here. Snow is spring like but carveable and heavy

Dennis, there is a thread called March 1st. We have about 4 or 5 carvers coming up on Sunday, and I always have my camera :biggthump

[skipatroll]

See you guys in the am. Riding in fun early morning and get the speed up to drive thru the heavy stuff later in the day.

[skipatroll]

Rain caused a hard frozen surface this am but the sun is out and is expected to be good riding (springlike) by about 10:30 today. Hoping the weather on Sat doesn't foul up Sundays ride. Looks like it could be more of the same as last night. Snow depth is great and when it softens there is about a 2-3 hour window of decent riding each day.

[Arclite]

Hey Dennis!

Its raining down here in LA, any signs of new snow? or more rain?

We're you on the news today?? (friday) I woke up, turned on the news, and i saw a glimpse of a red skipatrol jacket and 2 dogs. And the reporter was at Big Bear.

[skipatroll]

Yep that was me and the dogs on KTLA morning show. Today Monday weather is overcast at 1:00pm with fog rolling in. Cold with temps at 34 degrees right now

[Terryw]

Was up today and the conditions were quite good. Firm in the morning as you would expect, but softening up very quickly. Good carving conditions.

On a somewhat depressing note, I noticed that they were starting to gather up and put away the snow making guns today. I know it is getting a little late in the season, but I had hopes that since it is getting so cold at night they might make a little more snow. But I guess that is not going to happen now. Oh well, there is still a lot of snow up there!

[Bullwings]

well, that sucks. looks like we have about 3 or 4 more weekends left, maximum...

[Terryw]

Dennis assures us that the resort will be open till April 19.

[oldvolvosrule]

Yep that was me and the dogs on KTLA morning show.


Dennis, do you have a video clip from the program?? I would like to see it posted or maybe I can watch it at Summit one day. Let me know.

[Arclite]

Dennis, do you have a video clip from the program?? I would like to see it posted or maybe I can watch it at Summit one day. Let me know.

I didnt see much of it, but I'm sure you could go to KTLA website and search Bear Mountain. it was friday last week

[KingCrimson]

I'm gonna do that right now..


Not many carvers are as fortunate as us having Dennis around!

[skipatroll]

Looks like we have about one more week left. There is plenty of snow and it has been windy and cool the last couple of mornings . The deciding factor in our closing date will be the ticket count. It has been very low during the week so I am expecting that we close in about a week however if the count goes up we will stay open day by day starting the 13th.

I will let you know in case you are looking for one last run of the season.

[Terryw]

Thanks for the update Dennis. I am sure looking for one more week. I was surprised at how good the conditions were staying. Great for practicing spins and ridding fakie. Gotta have a little more time to work on those skills for testing next year :biggthump. I am actually having fun playing with those skills.