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Randy S.
May 12th, 2004, 05:36 PM
Wooohooo! Its a new 2002 VFR800 Interceptor. 62 miles on it since I picked it up this morning. I can't wait for the weekend and really can't wait to get through the 600 mile break-in period.

Maciek
May 12th, 2004, 06:25 PM
Short:

Have fun with it. I am just awaiting my "carving equipment", because the order takes 6-8 weeks. It will come from factory in Europe and it will have... four wheels set and SMG transmission :-)))

Maciek is OFF again.

sic t 2
May 13th, 2004, 07:15 AM
http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

Just got my new ride too. Isn't she pretty?
http://www.malickandscherer.com/moto/E-town%20may9%202004/KS_53_years_old.jpg

Sic t 2

Chris Houghton
May 13th, 2004, 03:07 PM
Hey, you need at least two in the quiver, one for slalom and one for the GS/ Super GS.

Randy S.
May 13th, 2004, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Chris Houghton
Hey, you need at least two in the quiver, one for slalom and one for the GS/ Super GS.

Heh. I just signed up for my first school at the track. Something tells me I'm going to want a track bike before long. That means a trailer too. ****, this is going to get more expensive than carving.

There's another TahoeCarver who is a big track ho. I just asked him to go ride with me. He said he can't. No headlight, no signals, no mirrors on his bike at the moment. We'll see how it goes.

Meantime:
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/smilies/banana.gifhttp://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/smilies/boobies.gif http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/images/smilies/later.gif

Chris Houghton
May 14th, 2004, 02:31 AM
Randy - you are in trouble. Track time is a lot more fun that street riding in many ways. And the VFR is what Freddie Spencer uses in his track school to humble the kids on GSXRs and R1s. It's the rider, not the bike. If you do want a track bike, check the Roadracing World classifieds, there's always a good selection of race bikes for sale. Just watch that if you get a "salvage" that it comes with the proper paperwork, the cops have been known to come to a race day and take 20 bikes away.
You will have fun.

Jack Michaud
May 14th, 2004, 05:38 AM
Is that a <i>real</i> RC30?!? Nice!!!

(I have an "RC31")

LeeW
May 14th, 2004, 07:37 AM
My dream bikes would be tz125 of yamaha -AND- Honda RVF 400 (NC35, I think?).

Anybody watched the motoGP qualify session today of Le Man, France?

Chris Houghton
May 14th, 2004, 02:40 PM
Yes Jack, the real thing. #28 of 30 kilometer version from 1989. Still looks great, my wife rides it most of the time. Gets a real rise from the guys! If you're ever up this way you can take her out (no not my wife, well maybe)

Speed Demon
May 15th, 2004, 09:34 PM
Nice bikes you got goin here....Heres my list of bikes I want when I get my license:

1) Yamaha R6
2) Ducati Monster 620
3) Suzuki GSX-R650

Anyone have any input on those as first bikes please tell me thanks...
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Chris Houghton
May 16th, 2004, 05:30 AM
I'd say the Ducati is the best choice for a first bike of the three you mention. The R6 is a bit peaky and race oriented, and I assume you mean GSXR 600, as they do not make a 650. Anyway, the Suzuki would be my second choice, still a race rep, but better than the R6 (at least this year's version of each). Don't get anything nice for your first bike, because you're going to fall off and bang it up at least a few times.

wile
May 16th, 2004, 06:18 AM
Question:

I'm 6'4" and i want a sport bike that will fit. yesterday i sat on a Suzuki TL 1000R, and a honda Superhawk 996. both w/ the beautiful sounding thoaty v-twin. I really liked the suzuki, it's a big bike but it was the best fit i have ever had on any Racing oreinted bike. similar on the honda but not as good.

Whats the history of the TL1000? i know it didn't sell very well and i've heard quite a few differnt views on it (ie. good stability , bad stability, bad entering turns, great leavign turns, heavy to turn at low speeds.)

any one know? I am sure the super hawk is an awsome bike

The bike attached it Similar to my katana, Mine color shifts from blue to red.

And i live in southern NH if any one want to play summer carve with me.

Chris Houghton
May 16th, 2004, 07:57 AM
IIRC, the standard TL for the first few years had rake and trail numbers that didn't work well. The R was better, as was the later TL version. They also used a rotary shock that was part of the engine/trans assembly. The bike was not received well by any of the magazines for these two main reasons. You need to ride one or spend time talking to someone that has one before you jump in. How about an RC51 if you want a twin?

Randy S.
May 16th, 2004, 08:34 AM
Well, I got out for my first group ride yesterday. I logged 180 miles and I'm sore. I can't wait to get out again today. Here's an action shot from yesterday on rte 1 down near Santa Cruz:

Randy S.
May 18th, 2004, 08:30 AM
So Bob,

I'm out riding Saturday down the coast. Beautiful day. Lots of people out and about. There are amazing roads for both bicycle and motorcycle riding everywhere. I live just south of San Francisco a few miles from the famous Alice's Restaurant on Skyline Blvd. We rode from Alices over to Pescadero and down toward Davenport where we ate lunch. At lunch I'm chatting with a couple of guys on bicycles about gear. They asked me how much my Sidi boots cost. We were both surprised that his cycle shoes cost as much as my boots. Then I looked at his bike. Oooohh. Beautiful smooth Seven. So pretty. $7K for a bicycle. Lots of the guys on our group motorcycle ride were riding bikes that cost them less than this guy's bicycle. I did mention that I've talked on-line with a guy who does design work for them. It was the first Seven I'd seen in the flesh.

Jack Michaud
May 18th, 2004, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney
Speed, All of the bikes you list are and excruciatingly BAD choice for rider with no road experience.

Actually the Monster 620 wouldn't be a bad choice, neglecting cost of ownership. Not as much power, friendly v-twin manners, perfect handling, light weight. Hmm, still it's a lot of power for a teen. I should rephrase that and say that it's not nearly as horrible a choice as a GSXR600 or R6.

Also, the Ducati is more expensive to buy and own, thanks to the 6000 mile valve adjustment intervals. Better choices among lightweight v-twins would be the Suzuki SV650, or Honda Hawk. Cheaper to buy, cheaper to own, very similar to ride as the M620.

A good choice for a teen would be the Suzuki GS500. That's a parallel twin with similar looks to the naked SV. Although this year there's a fully faired GS500 out, but fairings are expensive to repair/replace <b>when</b> you drop the bike.

The Kawasaki Ninja 250 would probably be the smartest choice. It's fully faired, but you can always get frame sliders. That bike would make your parents the happiest as it has the least power. You'd still be able to get arrested on it, and it looks the biz, but things would happen on that bike at a pace to which you would be able to react, unlike the 600's. And, you'd probably be able to afford a <i>brand new</i> Ninja 250 with a warranty.

You've got your whole life ahead of you to own a garage full of really cool motorcycles - no need to wreck yourself now on a too-big bike, preventing yourself from ever riding another bike (or snowboard) again.

Aisling
May 18th, 2004, 10:47 AM
ooo... bikes....
*drool*

so Bob, i can't remember... isn't there a school around here that teaches you to ride?

thanks!!

Jack Michaud
May 18th, 2004, 10:51 AM
Have you considered a Multistrada? Not exactly a sportbike per se, (and not exactly cheap) but they reportedly do everything astonishingly well and in relative comfort. I would think it'd be a good bike for a basketball player.

http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/photogalleries2/MTS1000_04/images/f09.jpg

And here (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/bikes/group_road_test?sectionID=50685&documentID=184948) is an article about the bike.

Aisling
May 18th, 2004, 10:56 AM
MSF...? .... Most Sexy Female???

hehe

cool, thanks for the linkage, Bob!! :D

Aisling
May 18th, 2004, 11:01 AM
i forgot to ask... the learner's permit is just a written test, correct?

GeoffV
May 18th, 2004, 01:58 PM
For the MSF course you must have your permit prior to the class. Just pick up a book at the RMV, the test is pretty much like the drivers test. After that, if you pass the MSF rider test you'll get a certficate that can be validated at the RMV, plus you'll get 10% your insurance.

sic t 2
May 18th, 2004, 08:20 PM
Super Motard in Cuddeybackville, NY on May 1, 2004
http://www.acemotocross.com/supermotard_may1_2004

Sic t 2
(I sat this one out; bro's right leg healed nicely around the 8mm titanium rod that was installed last Father's Day. So he got to pilot the #8 KTM.)

Jack Michaud
May 19th, 2004, 05:34 AM
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/detail?sectionID=50677&documentID=199360

Jack Michaud
May 19th, 2004, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney
So Jack,

Are you selling your 1st born to make the payments on that thing?

That's gotta be in the same price range if not waymore than the 999.


Ya, it's my next ride in the parallel universe where I am also FIS champ. Although I'll bet it "only" comes in at a premium of about a grand over the 999. Actually this will really be my next ride: www.need-desire.com - the GT sedan.


I'm partial to the M4 or the Tornado myself.

You mean MV? Yes, another stunning bike. The Tornado is very cool too, but I'm an underseat exhaust guy. Unlike the 999, the Ducati GP bike is inarguably beautiful.

Neil Gendzwill
May 19th, 2004, 09:42 AM
I kinda like this one:

Jack Michaud
May 19th, 2004, 10:11 AM
Hey, I almost bought one one of those. I found a really amazing deal on ebay from some guy in Nigeria. It fell through though.

John
May 19th, 2004, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney
One of my favorite routes!!!


Man, isn't skyline great? I'm from the bay area, and there's no better way to kill an afternoon than those roads up in the hills. My absolute favorite is saratoga road between 85 and skyline, nice wide lanes, (page mill is a litte narrow for serious ripping in a car) smooth pavement and good passing areas.

My carving machine is below, it handles quite a bit better than you think, (it holds its own at autocrosses.) It's got a 289 with a 5-speed, and it makes four banger cars look dumb trying to follow me up the twisties, but since the engine is more powerful than the brakes, even with aftermarket four wheel discs, they do a little better following me down.

Speed Demon
May 19th, 2004, 02:27 PM
Wow...that MotoGP is BEAUTIFUL...I wouldnt ming hopping on one of those bad boys :D....and John what year is that Pony...thats a sweet ride...I myself would take a 1973 Roadrunner Orange with thick black racing stripes...YES! Anyways I need to get my motocycle liscense.

For me personally I still havent decided what kind of bike I should get if I get one.
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Neil Gendzwill
May 19th, 2004, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by Jack Michaud
Hey, I almost bought one one of those. I found a really amazing deal on ebay from some guy in Nigeria. It fell through though.
Let me guess, it represented 20% of the cash he was trying to launder from the royal family?

Anyways, the Tuono is way too much bike for me seeing as I've never owned a bike of any sort. I learned on friend's bikes and have driven a few of them. If I were to buy new, I think I'd be looking at the Suzuki SV650.

Justin A.
May 23rd, 2004, 06:23 PM
Im planning on getting my Bike Licence this summer, and perhaps a bike too. Im cosidering a Yamaha R-6, bad choice for a first bike? If yes, throw some suggestions my way on a better bike under $6500.
-Justin
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Maciek
May 23rd, 2004, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by John
My carving machine is below, it handles quite a bit better than you think, (it holds its own at autocrosses.) It's got a 289 with a 5-speed, and it makes four banger cars look dumb trying to follow me up the twisties, but since the engine is more powerful than the brakes, even with aftermarket four wheel discs, they do a little better following me down.

Perhaps you might use torque and power balance of your engine downwards instead of brakes and more shift down a bit. I bet you could drive a bit using torque... like in drifters. They would not get chance to catch up. I bet this baby is a 8-cyl. so plenty of torque to play with.

Still have to wait 3 weeks for that SMG equipped thing:(

Speed Demon
May 23rd, 2004, 07:51 PM
Hey i talked to my dad about my first bike i have to get somethin under $2000 if im lucky cuz he knows i may drop it...

Therefore how is a 1987-1990 Honda Hurricane CBR600? does anyone know the specs on that bike? lemme know what you think about that for a first bike i hear its not very "tame" as it was used for racing when it came out in 1987....so i still dunno plan on gettin my license this summer along with my drivers license cuz all u need to take the moto class is a drivers permit...SCORE! :D
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Jack Michaud
May 24th, 2004, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by Speed Demon
Hey i talked to my dad about my first bike i have to get somethin under $2000 if im lucky cuz he knows i may drop it...

Therefore how is a 1987-1990 Honda Hurricane CBR600? does anyone know the specs on that bike? lemme know what you think about that for a first bike i hear its not very "tame"

Still a dangerous choice. Even though it's 14+ years old, it's still packing about 80hp, iirc. If you refuse to get a small bike like the Ninja 250, go for the Suzuki GS500. Or if you want something with a fairing that is racier looking, get the Kawasaki Ninja 500 (a.k.a. EX500). Probably the best bike for $2k (used).

Jack Michaud
May 24th, 2004, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by Justin A.
Im planning on getting my Bike Licence this summer, and perhaps a bike too. Im cosidering a Yamaha R-6, bad choice for a first bike? If yes, throw some suggestions my way on a better bike under $6500.
-Justin

Suzuki SV650 or SV650-S. Hands down. That is, if you are already a relatively seasoned car driver. If not, you really should consider something smaller like a Suzuki GS500 or Kawasaki EX500.

<i>Edit:</i> if you are a seasoned moto-x/mtb/road-bicycle rider like Bob, then the R6 could be a fine choice.

Speedzilla
May 24th, 2004, 12:23 PM
Here's my summer carver:

http://www.speedzilla.com/images/x/daves-fz1.jpg

Frappe
May 24th, 2004, 07:09 PM
John- That old 'stang is GORGEOUS.
How well does it handle with whatever rubber you've got on it?

And, my more pressing question,
how do you afford to snowboard and maintain such a nice car? Ugh, I need a job.

John
May 24th, 2004, 10:48 PM
Thanks for the comments on the car. Ripping around in it goes a long way toward keeping me sane when there’s no snow. Yes, it’s a V8, with 3.55 rearend gears so it definitely snaps your head back when you hit the gas. It’s pretty stiff, so with the fairly large tires (225 50 16’s) it has a lot of stick. On good pavement it really rips, over bumpy pavement the 1960’s suspension shows its limitations, it can get unsettled, and big bumps in corners can throw you off your line. It’s really balanced though, a little bit of push at the limit, but since I have a posi jumping on or off the throttle in a corner gets it to rotate nicely.

I afford it mainly by doing all my own maintenance and modifications, which saves a lot. (landlords don’t like it when you work on your car in their parking garage though.)

By the way, I totally agree with Jack’s bike suggestions. I actually learned to ride on a friend’s ninja 500R, and it’s all the bike you need and more if you’re a beginner. It actually has more torque down low than some of the crotch rocket bikes, but it’s damn strong at the high end, certainly faster than most cars on the road. If you’re new the road too, a used 250 (or Buell Blast, they’re cheap on ebay) is a very good choice. For one thing they’re cheap, and unlike bigger bikes, nearly new, problem free examples are plentiful.

Neil Gendzwill
May 25th, 2004, 07:25 AM
One thing to watch about the little Ninjas and the Blasts is that they don't fit everybody - us 6 footers need a little more space.

Bob L.
May 25th, 2004, 11:49 AM
Following my last road carving mishap (yzf600r), I decided that I'm better off lumbering down the road instead of carving. The Indian 'carves' as poorly as I do, but it's still fun, and I haven't had to visit any orthopedic surgeons since I've been lumbering. Still miss the twisties though....

Frappe
May 25th, 2004, 01:38 PM
mainly by doing all my own maintenance and modifications
Amen. We're running the same size tires too.

I'll shut up now so as not to hijack the "wow, pretty motorcycles" thread.

Speed Demon
May 25th, 2004, 09:25 PM
Hey what do you guys think about the Aprilia series from the RS50 to RS250 for a beginners bike I hear the RS50 is a great beginners bike thats fun to ride but it seems wimpy, although it does top around 60 restricted and de-restricted ive heard up to 90+ mph. I just think it may be a little wimpy although I wouldnt mind....:D
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fin
May 26th, 2004, 08:57 AM
Why do in four strokes what you can get done in two?

Jack Michaud
May 26th, 2004, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney

They make a 125, but not a 250.

Actually they do make a 250, but it is sold only in race trim (no lights, etc) here in the US. They do make them in street form for Europe, but they are technically illegal here. However I have heard of people buying them off the grey-market and somehow "sneaking" them through the DMV to get them registered. I actually saw one such RS250 in the parking lot at NH International Speedway once.

Hmm, I actually can't find the 250 on their website, but I'd be surprised if they discontinued it. Aprilia dominates GP 250 racing. The RS250 is a flagship for them in Europe.

But that's all moot because the RS250 is a seriously wicked machine that you don't want. Yet.

And the 125 is probably illegal in most states, but I don't know. They are fast though. Check out this 125 GP action:
http://motogp.tiscali.com/ppv_multimedia2/276/276164.wmv
-Jack

Speedzilla
May 26th, 2004, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney
Pretty sure they don't make the 250 anymore. (I could be wrong though) Can't seem to locate it anywhere.

Especially with the elimination of the GP250 class this year.



I think you are correct, I do remember hearing that the RS250 was discontinued.

The AMA eliminated the national 250 class, but there are still plenty of club level racers running 250GP bikes.

Tommy D
May 26th, 2004, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney
They have very sporty geometry and are super light. This makes them a ton of fun to ride.

They are 2-stroke machines and legislature in certain states has made these illegal. I know there was a measure before the Massachusetts house a year or two ago to ban 2-strokes from the road, but I’m not quite sure what happened.


I don't know much at all about mcycles or the mcycle scene. Why would 2-strokes be illegal? Is it an emissions issue? Is it the power to weight ratio?

Jack Michaud
May 26th, 2004, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Bob Jenney
Especially with the elimination of the GP250 class this year.

Tell that to Randy De Puniet! (current 250 world points leader)

Jack Michaud
May 26th, 2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Tommy D
I don't know much at all about mcycles or the mcycle scene. Why would 2-strokes be illegal? Is it an emissions issue? Is it the power to weight ratio?

Emissions. Since both the compression and exhaust stages happen together in a 2-stroke, it's hard to control emissions.

fin
May 26th, 2004, 01:27 PM
Not to mention you are technically burning oil (oil/gas pre-mix)!

No matter how perfect I get my Vespa tuned there is always a film of oil on the back half of that thing at any given point.

2 Stoke is a hell of a lot of fun but you can just see and smell the crap you put into the air.

HUGE push right now for all rec vehicles to go to 4 stroke. Already seeing it in Motocross and now it is coming out in personal water crafts and snowmobiles. Imagine a whisper quiet jetski, pretty cool.

My ride comes with a full spare mounted on a rim. I can change a flat with my dress on :D

Neil Gendzwill
May 26th, 2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by fin
Imagine a whisper quiet jetski, pretty cool.

Best way to accomplish that is to put them all in the landfill.

Not a jetski fan...

Neil

jeff_sv650
May 26th, 2004, 02:01 PM
My motorcycle roadracing pics are here...

http://www.jeffwebber.com/Photos/Racing/pics.pl

http://www.jeffwebber.com/Photos/Racing/IMG_0975.JPG

LeeW
May 26th, 2004, 04:08 PM
As far as I can remember, Suzuki doesn't make those 250 motors that Aprilia use to put 'em in their 250 bikes. The 2 strokes races are still alive in USA-- www.usgpru.net and the 125cc are quite a rarity in the US in street form. Wouldn't mind the 125cc but consider the high altitiude Im in (Colorado), it'd be pain the ass to change the jetting, bowl, etc to adjust to the altitude. Fin, is it a pain in the ass to do the adjusting when you first got that 2 stokes Vespa? I may be moving to Summit County next week, so think I could check it out sometimes?

Thanks in advance.
Lee

PS for beginners, check out www.beginnerbikes.com
PSS RS50 looks like fun, but dont think my 5'11" 200 lbs would be suitable to those RS50. :-/

Speed Demon
May 26th, 2004, 04:48 PM
Jeff are you from washington, one of those pics said Spokane Raceway...

Hey one more thing, I was talkin to my English teacher who rides a Monster 900(Very Purdy and Very Loud:D ) and I was talking to him about adjusting seat heights. He was saying that they could be lowered maybe an inch or two. That is the problem for me Im short and so is my dad and he and I have a hard time finding bike s that fit HIM right now and ME later. My dad and I are both 5'2" and he's riding a V-Star Classic which is just about the right height for him with a seat height of only 27.9"...and most sport bikes have seat heights around 30" + or - a few inches. Except for one exception the Buell Blast has a seat height of 25.5" thats crazy low. But my question is, is it possible to lower the seat height of bike to around that height of 28"? Didnt know. Thanks
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mtnpig
May 26th, 2004, 06:34 PM
So go easy on the throttle. I was sorry to see them tossed out of AMA. A true thoroughbreed with an amazing power to weight ratio. You definately spend some time living on the highside with those bikes. The new 600's are pushing some prettty impressive numbers and are much easier to gather up when you lose it. However a diesal is a diesal.

mtnpig
May 26th, 2004, 06:40 PM
The sv650 shots were great. That would be a cool street bike. Or maybe keep it on the track and buy up the now usless old Honda Hawks to use as street legal rat runners.

jeff_sv650
May 26th, 2004, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by Speed Demon
Jeff are you from washington, one of those pics said Spokane Raceway...

Yes, I'm from Seattle WA.



Hey one more thing, I was talkin to my English teacher who rides a Monster 900(Very Purdy and Very Loud:D ) and I was talking to him about adjusting seat heights. He was saying that they could be lowered maybe an inch or two. That is the problem for me Im short and so is my dad and he and I have a hard time finding bike s that fit HIM right now and ME later. My dad and I are both 5'2" and he's riding a V-Star Classic which is just about the right height for him with a seat height of only 27.9"...and most sport bikes have seat heights around 30" + or - a few inches. Except for one exception the Buell Blast has a seat height of 25.5" thats crazy low. But my question is, is it possible to lower the seat height of bike to around that height of 28"? Didnt know. Thanks

I'm 5'2" myself. Lowering a bike by modifying suspension is a bad idea as it will negatively affect handling. Shave the seat and learn to deal, thats what I do.

My race SV is actually taller than stock due to longer than stock rear shock... Makes it handle (turn in) much better. I can barely get one foot down to the ground on it.

Seat width is as important as height for us short guys, so don't just look at specs as they don't tell the full story.

You will likely be able to ride a monster... I have test ridden them and they might be a bit of a challenge but doable for 5'2".

My SV street bike has a narrower, squishier, and lower than stock seat on it and it is easy for me to ride comfortably. I can almost get the balls of both feet down with it.

Jeff

mtnpig
May 26th, 2004, 07:35 PM
I'm 5'6" and ride a monster. I cut the foam seat out from underneath. You can take it to an auto upholsterer and pay maybe $60-$100. I just stretched the origional cover back over the cut out front section. Buy cutting the foam from underneath you retain the origional top contour of the saddle.

Speed Demon
May 26th, 2004, 08:31 PM
Jeff, you dont even look 5'2" but i get the jist of what your saying. How much would taking out the foam or cutting the foam remove? And I dunno if its just me, but wouldn't it take a lot of work to hold the bike if your stopped if you cant reach the ground...i mean if both of your feet cant touch...but i know there are ways of juss barely getting it to stay up with some work. Well, once I get my license then my dad has to talk to my mom about the bikes :( hopefully that will go well, I really really hope it does...:confused:
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jeff_sv650
May 26th, 2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Speed Demon
Jeff, you dont even look 5'2" but i get the jist of what your saying. How much would taking out the foam or cutting the foam remove? And I dunno if its just me, but wouldn't it take a lot of work to hold the bike if your stopped if you cant reach the ground...i mean if both of your feet cant touch...but i know there are ways of juss barely getting it to stay up with some work. Well, once I get my license then my dad has to talk to my mom about the bikes :( hopefully that will go well, I really really hope it does...:confused:

Well, it sounds like you are young... I started riding when I was about 19 years old. (18 years ago! ugh, I'm old)

If you don't mind some advice... Start on a small cheap bike. Something like a used Kawasaki 250 Ninja. It will be plenty fast for starting out. After you've owned it for a year and become a good rider you will be able to sell it for very close to what you paid. You'll also have a better idea what bike you really want by then. Other good starting bikes are Suzuki GS500 and Suzuki Savage (would be easy for short rider but cruiser not my style).

I crashed at Portland International Raceway 3 weeks ago in practice for an Endurance race and broke my left clavicle (collarbone) completely, a rib or two and sprained my knee (MCL). My helmet is toast and my leathers need repair. If I wasn't wearing good gear things could have been much worse. Invest in good gear.

As for all you 2-stroke fans -- more power to you, just don't set up your pit anywhere near mine.. The smoke and noise from those things sucks.

Jeff

mtnpig
May 27th, 2004, 06:48 AM
From Portland eh? You guys do a lot of racing in the rain? I was a terrible wet rider. No skill just heart. The 2-strokes were a pain in the ass to tune. You can have it spot on and then cloud cover or something would move in and 10 minutes later your set up was trash. You have to admit though they never puked oil all over the track.

jeff_sv650
May 27th, 2004, 11:17 AM
There is a fellow in my racing organization that has built an amazing machine similar to that Aprilia....

He took a 1995 Honda RS125 GP bike and replaced the engine with a motor from a current Honda CRF450F dirt bike. The engine has been upgraded with a hotter cam and a slipper clutch. He's a skilled mechanic and fabricator, it was not simple.

Its 55hp and about 180lbs!!! Only about 15lbs heavier than the stock RS125. I think all GP racing will go four stroke eventually.

Jeff

Speed Demon
May 27th, 2004, 11:31 PM
how would you go about getting a 2-stroke passed through emissions? :D

Just wondering...:p
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LeeW
May 28th, 2004, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by Speed Demon
how would you go about getting a 2-stroke passed through emissions? :D

Just wondering...:p

You dont. You'll flunk out like a sore sight.

Speedzilla
May 28th, 2004, 07:00 AM
My other summer carver:

http://www.speedzilla.com/images/x/daves-wr250f.jpg

Speedzilla
May 28th, 2004, 08:57 AM
Mine is a 250, and as you can see, it is currently set up for pavement duty.

As you might already know, the WRs are very restricted from the factory. The first ride on my WR was very disappointing. After finding out that you need to do the "free mods" to open her up a bit, it became a completly different bike.

I would recomend this bike to anyone that wanted to ride trails and light MX. It's a blast.

Speed Demon
May 28th, 2004, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by LeeW
You dont. You'll flunk out like a sore sight.

Actually I was talkin to my teacher and he said there were ways of doing so, and just now I was looking at a webpage about 2-stroke and 4-stroke passing emissions and it said that it could pass emissions, i dont know how accurate they are but it says you can. What my teacher said was that if u turn down the carbuerator you may be able to pass while doing other stuff as well...:rolleyes:
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Maciek
May 30th, 2004, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by LeeW
You dont. You'll flunk out like a sore sight.


Actually you could probably in some places (not in the USA though). About ten years ago there was a patented electronic solution to emission control in 2-stroke engines. It was in Australia as far as I remember.

It seems that nobody accepted the licensing fees of the solution and production of 4-stroke engines was too advanced to reverse to 2-strokes.

That is weird because 2-stroke engines are far more powerful than 4-strokes. This comes from the simple fact that 2-strokes make twice as much work as 4-strokes in the same rpm's... or it takes only 2 strokes (vs. 4) to make the same work.

Only problem is burning that dirty oil in fuel mixture :(

Maciek
May 30th, 2004, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by mtnpig
So go easy on the throttle. I was sorry to see them tossed out of AMA. A true thoroughbreed with an amazing power to weight ratio. You definately spend some time living on the highside with those bikes. The new 600's are pushing some prettty impressive numbers and are much easier to gather up when you lose it. However a diesal is a diesal.


That is with all 2-strokes, by simple principle that they naturally get about 2 times more power than 4-strokes (very rought estimate)... or they may produce 2 times more power than 4-strokes from the same cubic size. (See my other post on brief explanation.)

Frappe
June 1st, 2004, 01:29 PM
Hey, more pictures of sexy bikes! ;)

Frappe
June 1st, 2004, 10:42 PM
YYZ - for a moment, before I clicked the link, I thought you were talking about tires.

Ghostrider
June 8th, 2004, 05:49 PM
I just got my motorcycle endorsement on my liscence this last weekend!! woo hoo! I'm legal now!

But I need a bike of my own. Im still somewhat of a beginner, but I've ridden my dads super customized harley heritage softail, but I'm not sure a ride like that is my cup of tea...what do you guys know about the Buell XB9S?

I don't really want a bike that is too big, and not planning on long trips, and I should have a bike that will not get myself into "too" much trouble.;)

I'm a college student, so I almost feel like I HAVE to have a sport bike since that just seems to be what you do in your last 2-6 years of college :)
But I most definately do not want a bike that has the body position of most BMW's...I do not like the body position..too upright..not sporty enough for me...id either like to be leaned forward a bit sport style, or stretched out chopper style.

Does the XB9S sound like something that would fit me or do you know of something else??

Jack Michaud
June 9th, 2004, 06:01 AM
If you say you don't like the upright riding position, you'd be better off on the XB9R. Plus, the R has a much better pose-factor, which is key on campus! I took a demo ride on one last year and liked it a lot. I thought it handled confidently and was light weight. It doesn't make crazy-huge power but it is fast and well mannered. It gets luke-warm reviews in the bike mags because they compare it to crotch rockets like the R6, but it is a very cool, very unique bike. If you get one, make sure to get some frame sliders. I heard a rumor about one getting totaled in a parking lot tip-over because the frame is the first thing to hit.
-Jack

Neil Gendzwill
June 9th, 2004, 07:43 AM
I love the Buells but they are pretty expensive. A Suzuki SV650 is similar or better performance to a Buell at nearly half the price.

northcoast
June 11th, 2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by Speed Demon
That is the problem for me Im short and so is my dad and he and I have a hard time finding bike s that fit HIM right now and ME later. My dad and I are both 5'2" and he's riding a V-Star Classic which is just about the right height for him with a seat height of only 27.9"...and most sport bikes have seat heights around 30" + or - a few inches. Except for one exception the Buell Blast has a seat height of 25.5" thats crazy low. But my question is, is it possible to lower the seat height of bike to around that height of 28"? Didnt know. Thanks

Hey SpeedDemon...Here's the bike for you.http://pocketbike.com/images/Pasini/Web/PasiniRacing.jpg

That should solve your seat height problem.:D
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Speed Demon
June 11th, 2004, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by northcoast
Hey SpeedDemon...Here's the bike for you.http://pocketbike.com/images/Pasini/Web/PasiniRacing.jpg

That should solve your seat height problem.:D

THOSE ARE SOO AWESOME....

My friend has an Aprillia 50 Pocket Bike, I was going to buy one of those to ride around my street and stuff, but I dunno wat happened. I didnt buy one and now I just want a real motorcycle, but I need money for Drivers and Motorcycles ED. :(
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Ghostrider
June 13th, 2004, 09:53 PM
Welp..I've got a set of wheels to ride...not quite made for carving..but she looks pretty...and should get the job done around campus ;)

A custom creation by Twisted Twin custom cycles...
www.TwistedTwin.com (http://www.twistedtwin.com)

I make the website for Jimmy (the builder)...its hard to stare at those all day and not want one...

so in the garage at home, were gonna have a 100% custom on a harley frame...
and "Jimmy's Beast" which is the green bike.. (the one with the girl). Which was also a bike featured in American Iron magazine...see the website for details. I'll hopefully have pics of the article soon when we track down a spare copy.

I'll post pics here once they are delivered, but they are both going back into the shop for some more extensive re-modeling.

Jon Dahl
August 9th, 2004, 12:57 PM
Just picked up a '03 sv1000s on Friday! They are practically giving 'em away at Paulsons in Lacey. In mine about $8200 with tax, lic, and lowers for the fairing. I'll post a pic soon, got it in all silver. There is nothing like a v-twin for roll on torque!

Randy S.
August 9th, 2004, 05:07 PM
Cool! Now you need to bring it to the track and really have some fun with us. Lots of great track days at Thunderhill in Willows, CA. Not too far from you. Also Sears Point is a famous and fun one. Rent a van from Enterprise for the weekend and get your butt down here. Keigwin (http://www.keigwin.com) has a pair of days at Sears on 9/25-6 that have open spots in the B- group.

See you there?

I got a new track bike since I started this thread. I'll take some pics soon and post them. Right now the only sticker on it is a US Snowboarding one.

Randy

Randy S.
August 9th, 2004, 05:40 PM
Here are a couple of pictures of me on the new bike before I mounted the track bodywork.

http://gotbluemilk.com/040724/75/HT4U0114.jpg

http://gotbluemilk.com/040724/75/HT4U0489.jpg

D-Sub
August 10th, 2004, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Ghostrider
Welp..I've got a set of wheels to ride...not quite made for carving..but she looks pretty...and should get the job done around campus ;)

A custom creation by Twisted Twin custom cycles...
www.TwistedTwin.com (http://www.twistedtwin.com)

I make the website for Jimmy (the builder)...its hard to stare at those all day and not want one...

so in the garage at home, were gonna have a 100% custom on a harley frame...
and "Jimmy's Beast" which is the green bike.. (the one with the girl). Which was also a bike featured in American Iron magazine...see the website for details. I'll hopefully have pics of the article soon when we track down a spare copy.

I'll post pics here once they are delivered, but they are both going back into the shop for some more extensive re-modeling.

so..where are the pics of your big twin then?

I fckin love V-Twin choppers and ****. totally out of my reach financially though

Ghostrider
August 10th, 2004, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by D-Sub
so..where are the pics of your big twin then?

I fckin love V-Twin choppers and ****. totally out of my reach financially though

Ha..heres an update.

The green bike is in line for a ground up rebuild...so probably wont be completed until the very end of this summer or probably winter.
And will most likely be for sale upon completion if anybody is interested.

The heritage softail is back and looking very hot. Haven't got an updated pic yet though. It was widened, lowered, stretched, painted black with a plum undercoat so it looks purple in the sun and black in the shade. Then pinstriped with a similar style except purple with a silver topcoat to stand out. The whole engine was chromed and reflects on the paint amazingly. Also got hard saddlebags painted to match w/ a custom mounting bracket, custom one-up saddle was mounted, forward controls, straight pipes, hi-perf cam and carb.

However with only one bike and 2 riders, one more was needed to tide us over until the green bike is delivered. So I picked up a Harley Sportster XL 883R which was a 1 year limited edition run from harley that is modeled after the 60's track racers and dropped it off at the custom shop.
Here are a couple pics:

It started its life as this...
http://www.midwestskibums.com/images/harley/1.JPG

Then hi-perf exhaust, cam, carb and custom Corbin seat were added.
http://www.midwestskibums.com/images/harley/883-Sportster-003b.jpg

Then it went to the shop again where it was lowered a few inches in the front and rear, removed a few extra parts (windshield, different headlight, pegs..etc) to chop it down and get it looking like its track roots. It also got a few custom brackets for lights, liscence plates, and fenders to keep things in proportion. I have been too busy playing with it to get a picture of this step which is where it currently is.

In the works is a set of straight track pipes. The "hi-perf" pipes just arent cutting it and arent loud enough. They have only set off 4 car alarms while passing by. I want to set them ALL off. They will probably be very basic looking but dressed up a bit with a few twists for looks, but most likely one out each side of the rear wheel like the 60's track bikes did. They also will be black powdercoated. The current pipe is the only chrome piece left on the bike, everything has either been painted/powdered black or orange.

toys toys toys :D

D-Sub
August 10th, 2004, 10:46 PM
I think next summer Im gonna whore myself out to the highest bidder, work 6 12 hour days and save up for that bike Ive always wanted to build

I dont care about flashy as much as reliable...

actually have a dream style in mind. There was a mag back in the mid 90s called "Hot Rod Harleys" and they had a piece on a bike they called the Hellbent Hardtail.

man..that thing was SICK lookin. I used to have the centerfold poster deal...but I fckin lost it...

wish I could find that again