Look at the front page...

[tex1230]

http://www.bomberonline.com/store/images/photos_products/TD3_ST_400.jpg

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Phil]

and:

http://www.bomberonline.com/store/images/photos_products/Fin-Tec_back_400.jpg

[wvrocks]

schweet! I like the new reciever on the step ins, looks like it should
help to relieve clogging problems. :biggthump

[Bullwings]

I want i want i want!!!

I really like the ability to take the binding off without complete disassembly.

I wonder why the Erings aren't compatible if the cant/lift disks are. Need more pictures.


Sadly, i don't think i'm buying any gear this season... :(

[Jon Dahl]

Looks to me like you could use your existing cants, and upgrade e-rings and center discs to get a built in suspension kit for the TD2's....correct me if I am wrong.

[tex1230]

looks like it will be lighter than the TD2?

[Jack Michaud]

Looks to me like you could use your existing cants, and upgrade e-rings and center discs to get a built in suspension kit for the TD2's....correct me if I am wrong.

You are correct sir.

Or you could get the TD2 suspension kit (http://www.bomberonline.com/store/accessories/suspension_kit.cfm).

[Mark.Andersen]

Is the new heel receiver backward compatible with TD2s? I'd love to retrofit my bindings with the new heel receiver. The Alu version never worked as well as those on my F2s.

[Jon Dahl]

You are correct sir.

Or you could get the TD2 suspension kit (http://www.bomberonline.com/store/accessories/suspension_kit.cfm).

My way is cleaner....

[corey_dyck]

Beautiful bindings! They continue to get more refined and simplified with each iteration. Two thumbs up!


Looks to me like you could use your existing cants, and upgrade e-rings and center discs to get a built in suspension kit for the TD2's....correct me if I am wrong.
It looks like you'd need longer mounting screws too.

Getting a 2nd board kit is a bit redundant now as it's only 1 more screw to remove the whole binding. I guess it would still be useful swapping between boards that you run different angles on.

I really like the steel heel receivers. If they fit a TD2 I'll be buying one to replace my worn rear one.

The FinTec heels will definitely be on order for me!

[Gtanner]

Just shorted out my keyboard from all the drool!!!


Looks like some excellent improvements. Congrats guys!


-Gord

[Jeffrey Day]

Will you be able to adjust stance angles without moving the heel/toe blocks if you run smaller sized boots?

[Sinecure]

Looks to me like you could use your existing cants, and upgrade e-rings and center discs to get a built in suspension kit for the TD2's....correct me if I am wrong.

Why do you need new center disks?

Oh, never mind. They'll need to be thicker/deeper to meet the board and not leave a gap. Or maybe you could use the old ones?

Inquiring minds clearly need a FAQ.

[Bullwings]

definitely looks like a lot more parts might be cross-compatible between the td2 and td3.

Doesn't seem like quite as radical a change as the td1 vs td2 was.

That's probably because the td2 was and still is a great binding, and now the td3 just improves on things that seem to be more user friendly/convenient rather than completely performance enhancing/changing (thicker e-rings are nice though).

I could be completely off base though, and wouldn't be surprised if i was.

[NateW]

Is the new heel receiver backward compatible with TD2s? I'd love to retrofit my bindings with the new heel receiver. The Alu version never worked as well as those on my F2s.

I'd like to know, too.

[Randy T.]

I don't see any info or pictures of the cosmetic cap to keep snow out of the center. Is that still going to be used?

[Keenan]

I assume when you order the TD3 step in's you get one standard binding and one step in? The description doesn't say.

[tex1230]

I assume when you order the TD3 step in's you get one standard binding and one step in? The description doesn't say.

Why would you think that?

step in usually means both feet...

[Keenan]

Because I don't know better. I've been waiting to buy step in's because I had a feeling that some day Bomber would produce their own.

[queequeg]

I don't see any info or pictures of the cosmetic cap to keep snow out of the center. Is that still going to be used?

I didn't see any mention of that - is there going to be a plug for the hole such that snow does not get in there? Seems like you could put a little rubber plug over it to keep the snow out.

[Hans]

You are correct sir.

Or you could get the TD2 suspension kit (http://www.bomberonline.com/store/accessories/suspension_kit.cfm).

Well, I don't see that you can buy some seperate TD3 parts only. I like my TD2's but like to buy the new heelreceivers (stepin) and frontblock. Will this be possible soon?

[tex1230]

Because I don't know better. I've been waiting to buy step in's because I had a feeling that some day Bomber would produce their own.

no offense intended. :biggthump

[Phil]

I am so glad I could not afford the TD2's that I wanted and needed so badly last year! :biggthump

[carvedog]

So this heel assembly converts boots to step ins if they can do it.

Does it work with Burton stepin boots or just some other brands?

Novice to step in stuff but ready to make the move if this binding works as cool as it looks.

Sorry I just found the bit about FinTec compatibility on boots. Thx.

We should be crashing Bomber servers any time now.

[tex1230]

the heel kit should fit all modern UPZ, Head, and Deeluxe/Raichle boots.
I don't use intec (FINTECH!!!) so I'm not sure, but I don't think Burtons are compatible.

[pokkis]

Burtons:

http://www.ojankaivajat.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/burton3.jpg

[carvedog]

but I don't think Burtons are compatible.

S$*&, F($#, d!@#, P&^%.

[Hans]

So I just only need one TD3 retro stepinkit to give my 3 sets of TD2's an upgrade. Hope this will be available soon. I don't need that extra height of the TD3.

[yyzcanuck]

I don't need that extra height of the TD3.

Although the TD3 E-Ring is thicker than TD2, the toe & heel blocks are thinner. This will keep the overall stack height nearly the same for TD2 & TD3.

[Dr D]

The extra height should be great for those of us that find the TD2 to stiff even with a suspension kit. I am in line for parts as well. how long until we can order individual parts?

[Hans]

Although the TD3 E-Ring is thicker than TD2, the toe & heel blocks are thinner. This will keep the overall stack height nearly the same for TD2 & TD.

That's nice. That makes it even more interesting to keep the TD2 and upgrade with the lower profile blocks from the TD3. Pitty Michelle couldn't say/tell me when spareparts or kits for the TD3 would be available through the website.

[Fastskiguy]

Wow, what a wait and it sure looks like the suspense was worth it :)

[Mike T]

Will you be able to adjust stance angles without moving the heel/toe blocks if you run smaller sized boots?

Yep, very important question - do *any* of the conveniences get compromised if one has small feet? I have size 25 boots, and with TD2's had to flip toe and heel blocks around, and still had to move the blocks to access the plate-to-disk screws. It was never a show stopper but it did get annoying.

The TD3 looks very slick and not needing to take it apart to remove it is a HUUUUUGGGGGEEEEE plus. Even better, your stance angles don't get messed up when you remove it!

[Dave ESPI]

sooooooo I have regular TD2 now.

If I get a set of TD3 will I also need to convert the heelplate on the TD2s to accept a heel reciever, or can I just get the TD3 with normal bails on front and back ?

I really just don't trust the heel step ins.

then agan, the toebail keeps opening up on my rear foot too on the TD2s so it must be an adjustment issue..... so its a catch 22.

[skategoat]

Didn't some guy last year modify his TD2s by cutting out the centre portion just like the new TD3s? And some people jumped on him about how this made the bindings unsafe?

[BlueB]

I think it was Sandy...

[yyzcanuck]

Didn't some guy last year modify his TD2s by cutting out the centre portion just like the new TD3s? And some people jumped on him about how this made the bindings unsafe?

I was just sitting back waiting for that!!!
Everyone needs a drink holder under their foot.

[kevbo]

iS THIS A PROTOTYPE PHOTO OR IS THIS THE FINAL PRODUCT? aRE THERE COLOR OPTIONS?

KR:)

[Fastskiguy]

iS THIS A PROTOTYPE PHOTO OR IS THIS THE FINAL PRODUCT? aRE THERE COLOR OPTIONS?

KR:)

Oh yeah, colors? Is it red only or can we get rainbow or tie dye or something? In my enthusiasm, I completely forgot about color...

[Ian M]

Although the TD3 E-Ring is thicker than TD2, the toe & heel blocks are thinner. This will keep the overall stack height nearly the same for TD2 & TD.

*sigh of relief* I'm glad they're still the same height. I'd love to see an even thinner E-ring as an option...I love being as low as possible on the board. All of the other details are very thoughtful and user-friendly, though. Good job!

[BadBrad]

*sigh of relief* I'm glad they're still the same height. I'd love to see an even thinner E-ring as an option...I love being as low as possible on the board. All of the other details are very thoughtful and user-friendly, though. Good job!

Same here. The height is my biggest problem with the TD2's. I love the low height (and light weight) of my Burton raceplates. If I can swap the heel and toe blocks on my TD2's for the shorter new ones, that might be nice option.

[John E]

I predict the price of used TD2s will drop abruptly.

[AccidentalChef]

Oh yeah, colors? Is it red only or can we get rainbow or tie dye or something? In my enthusiasm, I completely forgot about color...

I thought the same things... I'm not the biggest fan of the red and yellow on the front page. It wouldn't be enough to keep me from getting the bindings, but I would rather have all the metal parts be the same color.

[skategoat]

I predict the price of used TD2s will drop abruptly.

I doubt it. Even TD1s still trade at respectable prices.

[Jack Michaud]

Fin is out of town right now, but he has internet access in his hotel room. He will be on tonight to answer questions.

[dantheman0177]

Fin is out of town right now, but he has internet access in his hotel room. He will be on tonight to answer questions.

No he won't. While we are all looking at binding porn, he will only be online to look at pictures of naked ladies.

[John E]

I doubt it. Even TD1s still trade at respectable prices.

Only reason I said this is I'm guessing that some people will want to trade up to the latest & greatest.

[Ian M]

Same here. The height is my biggest problem with the TD2's. I love the low height (and light weight) of my Burton raceplates. If I can swap the heel and toe blocks on my TD2's for the shorter new ones, that might be nice option.

...that would be like the 1" lower kit for you car! Zoom, zoom!

[mr_roboteye]

I don't want to be a pessimist, but I think the bail stops may be a problem. We've all been in a lift line and lost your balance while you're standing with just your front leg clipped in. How will the pivot point and the stop itself react from you stomping on while you regain your balance? I guess time will tell. I know these have probably been tested on hill and this issue addressed. It probably has enough length in the through pin to allow the bail to "spring" outside the stop, at least that's the way that I would design it.

later,

Dave R.

[fin]

Lots of great questions here, and Jack is correct I am on the road right now so stick with me.

The new TD3 E-rings are compatible with the current Cant Disks. But if you want to run the new TD3 E-rings on a TD2 (and you can) you do need the taller TD3 Center Disk and long mount screws.

Weight differences to come soon.

Dave Morgan is correct (go figure) the height of the TD3 is the same as the TD2. Even though the new E-Ring is thicker by 4mm, we lowered the height of the sole block by 4mm.

Yes, the new TD3 steel heel receiver is compatible with the TD2 base plate. BUUUUT there is a small height difference between the new heel receiver and the TD2 sole block it is pretty darn small and so far has not been an issue in action of the step-in.

Jeffrey, the relation of the sole blocks to the base plate screws is the same as the TD2. So at the small boot setting, there may be some overlap.

Keenen, yes, bindings are sold in sets of their model. So the TD3 step-in comes with two step-in bindings.

Dave ESPI: not sure what you are asking, can you explain?

Removing of the middle of the Base Plate does not make it dangerous. However, as Dave mentioned, it is an excellent drink holder. Non-alcoholic for Dave.

The picture on the website is the final production version.

The new hard-stops for the bails are machined into the sole blocks themselves. They are actually "cupped" to catch the profile of the Lugs to they will not move past the stop in anyway. We have beat the holy %$#@ out of these stops with no issues.

OK, once I get back I will write up a nice FAQ on all of this to help answer more of the questions and the more that are most likely to come. Also, we plan to put up parts and more photos on the website in the next few weeks.

[mr_roboteye]

We have beat the holy %$#@ out of these stops with no issues.

I figured as much, thanks for the quick reply. I thought you would be a little busy right now..........:eplus2:

later,

Dave R.