F2 Titanium/titanflex lift/cant options

[yazka]

Hi,

Does the retail package of the said bindings include a method of setting lift and cant? If so, in what range? And if not, any goog aftermarket lift/cant disks for sale anywhere?

I really can't make my mind which one I should choose. Any pointers?

Cheers.

-Yazka

[Bobby Buggs]

They come with shims for lift and cant. I dont know the exact degree but there are a couple options that come in the package. No infinite adjustment thats for sure.

[Galen]

F2 simply doesnt give you enough shims. They are grooved and ribbed to fit together and have to be pointing in a specific direction because of the way they are shaped, so you can't just flip them over, stack them, or turn them 180* for different options. Also not much variation in cant/lift degrees, pretty basic. They are great bindings though.

[philw]

I think they're 1 degree, 3 degrees, and 6 degrees, depending on how you set them up, but I've not looked for a while. I find that plenty; I have my boots for finer control anyway. If you've more than one set of bindings then you collect the little shim things. I'm not giving them away in case I need them, but you can probably get them as spares if you want more. Personally I think the way they fit together is rather clever..

[Bobby Buggs]

I have no issue with how they fit together as well. I stack two cant shims opposed to make a small flat toe lift.
If you are handy or have some friends in machine shops I bet they could make you the shims you need easily

[yazka]

Thanks for info. I think I'll order a set of those Titanflex's.

-Y

[RDY_2_Carve]

Thanks for info. I think I'll order a set of those Titanflex's.

-Y

You won't be dissapointed.

[www.oldsnowboards.com]

F2 simply doesnt give you enough shims. They are grooved and ribbed to fit together and have to be pointing in a specific direction because of the way they are shaped, so you can't just flip them over, stack them, or turn them 180* for different options. Also not much variation in cant/lift degrees, pretty basic. They are great bindings though.


Galen (or anyone else for that matter) did you find a supply source for the F2 Cants and riser blocks. Mounted a couple pair on some powder boards and if I had another set of riser/cant blocks (Like those that came with the bindings) I could adjust the front bindings too?

Thanks, Bryan

[Bruce Varsava]

Love the bindings, had to modify to suit me. YYZ canuck used to sell the bindings with an extra set of thicker blocks so the blocks are definitely available. With a few minutes on a bandsaw I managed to trim the front lower about 30% and still leave a crude high spot in the middle to fit the groove. For cant shims I made up a set without the raised middle and they hold fine. I manages to get about 1.5 degrees as 3 was way too much for most applications.
BV

[www.oldsnowboards.com]

Hi Bruce, this is a good idea and I will probably end up doing what you have suggested. I was just hoping I could find some of the factory blocks/cants to play with and dial in the set up. I think I can live with the factory parts on the front binding. Currently the back seems ok , however the front is too flat and I have to adjust the BTS to stand up the cuff more (in turn tightening the flex more than I want).

I rode the F2 on my Tanker 200cm yesterday for a half day and it was good.
Felt a little "Loose" at first but I like it overall. My front leg was pretty tired
due to it being more bent all the time to make up for canting.

Thanks again for the suggestions. Bryan

[pokkis]

Bryan, i hav eplenty of cant disk, just let me know how many you need and i will drop then in mail, those stupid high blocks i dont have due i dont know where i have lost them, most prob to trash :confused:

[yyzcanuck]

Does the retail package of the said bindings include a method of setting lift and cant? If so, in what range?

The bindings come with one (1) lift block set and will give 3.5 to 5.5 degrees of heel or toe lift (depending on how they’re installed). The 3.5 degrees of lift would be with the largest DeeLuxe boot shell and 5.5 degrees of lift would be with the smallest DeeLuxe boot shell.

The two lift block pieces are meant to be installed on the same foot, so that if you're wanting heel lift, the thick lift is under the heel block, and the thin lift is under the toe block of the same foot. This keeps the blocks better aligned to reduce point loading of the boots soles (and destruction of the heel/toe pads).

In addition to the lift blocks, the bindings also come with a set of four (4) cant wedges. Single cant wedges will provide 3.5 degrees pronation or supination (depending on how they’re installed). These are used primarily for anatomical reasons. You can stack multiple wedges together to increase the angle.


Mr. Varsava is correct. We used to sell the F2 bindings with an extra set of lift blocks in the box but we can't get our hands on any for this season.

[www.oldsnowboards.com]

Bryan, i hav eplenty of cant disk, just let me know how many you need and i will drop then in mail, those stupid high blocks i dont have due i dont know where i have lost them, most prob to trash :confused:


Thanks Pokkis, those blocks do seem awefully tall, I am new to the binding so I am just sorting out what will work for me. Lets see what is available before you ship your across the big pond? Thanks again, Bryan

[www.oldsnowboards.com]

The bindings come with one (1) lift block set and will give 3.5 to 5.5 degrees of heel or toe lift (depending on how they’re installed). The 3.5 degrees of lift would be with the largest DeeLuxe boot shell and 5.5 degrees of lift would be with the smallest DeeLuxe boot shell.

The two lift block pieces are meant to be installed on the same foot, so that if you're wanting heel lift, the thick lift is under the heel block, and the thin lift is under the toe block of the same foot. This keeps the blocks better aligned to reduce point loading of the boots soles (amd destruction of the heel/toe pads).

In addition to the lift blocks, the bindings also come with a set of four (4) cant wedges. Single cant wedges will provide 3.5 degrees pronation or supination (depending on how they’re installed). These are used primarily for anatomical reasons. You can stack multiple wedges together to increase the angle.


Mr. Varsava is correct. We used to sell the F2 bindings with an extra set of lift blocks in the box but we can't get our hands on any for this season.

Thanks Dave, I have used up everything in the box:freak3:
The big stack/cant set is used in the rear, I am going to try the same thing in the front. As Pokkis point out, in addition to the flex disk it is really getting tall! I am guessing this may change as I learn the ins and outs of this binding.

Thanks for your help. Bryan

[philw]

I use the shims in "opposite pairs", so I two cant shims back to back are the same as a lift block, if you see what I mean. So I think I have 1 degree toe and 3 degree heel lift or there abouts, although I don't care much as the boots can take up the difference for me.

One thing - you can use the Titanflex bindings without the buffer if you want, or at least you could in earlier model years. The base is pretty much identical to the titanium race, and you can use it that way (well I did and it worked fine). You don't have the toe piece height adjusters is all.