35m side cut, dang

[GeoffV]

For those guys that are long board riders and think they've got a huge sidecut of 18-20m think again. I was searching some of the German manufactures last night and came across Plenk snowboards (link is on alpinecarving.com). They make a 210 board with a 35m sidecut. Man, you've gotta be going Mach 10 before you can even turn that sucker.
:p

[Bordy]

Have not been to the site yet, but thought I'd mentions this years new crop of down hill skiis sport between 37-47m radius and them there downhillers are carving every turn! (when they are not tucked going straight.

There are a few guys (I'm one of them) who like the big fast action!!!!!!!!

[mirror70]

Don't downhill skis have regulations regarding minimum sidecut radius? I know GS skis do.

[Maciek]

Originally posted by GeoffV
Man, you've gotta be going Mach 10 before you can even turn that sucker.
:p


Rather make carved turn. You can turn anything without carving, but question would be how efficiently you use gear.

And actually carve goes into specific speed /specific arc shape only.

Also not just sidewcut radius decides about speed to carve but board's stiffness.

That's a normal physics.


You can estimate your speed circle carved turn (or minimum turn radius) with some inclination and angulation for some sort of ski/snowboard. There are calculators for that on different web sites.

[GeoffV]

Yeah Ken, there are a ton of out of control riders at Wah, This 210 would just cut right through all the punks. I've been clipped a few times and have war wounds on my Doneks from straight liners at Wah.

[mirror70]

Ken, that's what my 8m F2 is for. I can go through moguls on it and just carve between them. Twitchy as a mofo, but great for saving my @ss in traffic.

[cmc]

ask Doug Dryer how he likes the 228 I sold him, the 210 rocks as well. :cool:

[spcarves2]

doug says it is the best board he has ever ridden!

[knoch]

228 thats insane, why don't you just go buy yourself an eight foot long two by eight...

[Maciek]

210 is a long bench. 228 is a bit longer and more people could sit at a picknik table:D

I like it. If you try to ride that 35m or so sidecut radius board then watch out for cars. They may have a tighter turn. After all BMW has about 10-12m turn radius.

You need some well shaped trail for that board or go above tree line.

[slam]

Originally posted by KenW
The straight line skidders don't have a chance to run into me from behind:D

use them as dynamic gates . . . :D

[Chris Houghton]

Are referred to as golons. The mobile (albeit slow) version of pylons. Great fun as slalom gates if found in clusters, younger versions usually squeal as you carve past.

[Jagger]

35 M could be a typo .

[k_t]

Originally posted by slam
use them as dynamic gates . . . :D

Isn't the rule of thumb "Under 12, breakaways"

[Randy S.]

35M is a typo. Look at the specs. It has sidecut for sure.

CMC's spec'd 210 is a blast. I rode mine this morning at mach speed. I need to make another trip up to Bachelor to try out Doug's 228. I definitely get a lot of comments when I ride the 210. I even raced it in an SG this year. What a blast. In between training runs we got the radar out. I only got to 69 on it. I'll try again next season (its getting too slushy and warm now to set speed records).

[D-Sub]

jesus. 69 mph?

my lord

[BraveGnuWorld]

There's a place that's making 240cm boards, and the sidecut's basically off the chart, too. Here'a a photo:
quiver.jpg (http://learning.snowboarding2.com/quiver.jpg)
You can just barely make out "BENNETT" printed on the tail.

[Linus]

Anybody ridden any of these boards?

I have a friend here who owns 680(that's 168). He asked me if I want it because he's not a hardbooter. I've noticed that it has 33mm of taper and 750(175)has 23mm of reverse taper :freak3:

How do these boards ride? Anybody?

[Blackbird]

I remember an Aussie speed rider from around 1997 -1998 (Darren Powell) that had a 216cm Coccoon with a 50 metre side cut radius.. 18cm waist

(his gear consisted of Burton Furnace boots 1998 models, Burton Race Plates also 1998 models.) and he also ran a small fairing on his back leg to help with the aerodynamics....

At the time he held the world record at 196.937 km/h...

Basically a point and shoot board... man you gotta have big coljones to do those speeds he had..

BTW whats the world speed record on a snowboard now in 2007???

We are talking plain bomb down a mountain speed... not assisted by any other means except gravity... though if anyone knows of someone with their rocket assisted factory prime doing mach 0.9+ ... pics would surely rock!! LOL

[carvedog]

35M is a typo. Look at the specs. It has sidecut for sure.

CMC's spec'd 210 is a blast. I rode mine this morning at mach speed. I need to make another trip up to Bachelor to try out Doug's 228. I definitely get a lot of comments when I ride the 210. I even raced it in an SG this year. What a blast. In between training runs we got the radar out. I only got to 69 on it. I'll try again next season (its getting too slushy and warm now to set speed records).

During a training run for downhill (basically a skier course that they let a couple of us run) I was clocked at 65 with a check turn at the top of the hill 'cause I was about to soil my pants with how much more speed I had carried off the top in my (very tightly stretched) speed suit.

Wish he had been there the next run when I cojoned up and ran that section without brakes. And that was on a Factory Prime 173. The board gets smaller as you go faster that is for sure. Theory of Relativity revealed.

[felix]

I think Darren Powell still holds the world record. Didn't we have a post about the actual board used for it appearing on ebay or so?

I was made on the speed slope of Les Arcs. Skiers go somewhere around 240ks on that run I think. If you happen to pass by at Les Arcs don't forget to book your ticket for a run down. after 2-3 hours introductory session your allowed to get the hell out of it, they supply you with the gear. So not sure about boarders and the program - for skiers its possible:D

[Blackbird]

I think Darren Powell still holds the world record. Didn't we have a post about the actual board used for it appearing on ebay or so?

I was made on the speed slope of Les Arcs. Skiers go somewhere around 240ks on that run I think. If you happen to pass by at Les Arcs don't forget to book your ticket for a run down. after 2-3 hours introductory session your allowed to get the hell out of it, they supply you with the gear. So not sure about boarders and the program - for skiers its possible:D

I didn't do a search for that board... i still have the magazine where he appeared though....

I'll be damned doing anything like that.... That's just plain insane...be great to watch though.

My fear glands are fully developed at 32 years of age....

[Dr D]

The board in question is owned by the sometime poster (savetheswallowtail). I am unsure of the method of aquisition but it is truly cool:eek: ITs about an inch and a half thick between the binders. and super long. Pop doesn't describe it really it just doesn't bend.:biggthump

[nekdut]

Doug Dryer should give Les Arcs a try with his soon to come 282cm Tinkler. :eek:

[Mike T]

Doug Dryer should give Les Arcs a try with his soon to come 282cm Tinkler. :eek:

Are you kidding? He didn't tell me about that :eek:

[nekdut]

Sutherland posted about it in the Big Kahuna thread if I remember correctly.

The joke was that he should have just gone for the 3m while he was at it. :smashfrea

[Gleb]

the speed board is a rentiger 219 that sold on ebay for $3,000 i think because it was autographed too. I wish there was a video online. I wouldn't feel comfortable doing anything near 60 on a board, only on skis for now.

here (http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?t=8328)is the post

[Blackbird]

I have the magazine article where Darren appeared holding that same board..
It's got the record speed scrawled on the top sheet in exactly the same spot..

And it's a 216cm 50 metre sidecut Cocoon ...
Where did you see the Renntiger??

i must've missed something somewhere.....

it's the same board in the mag as it is in the post here at BOL......

hmmmm were Renntigers around in 96-97???

[Gleb]

And it's a 216cm 50 metre sidecut Cocoon ...
Where did you see the Renntiger??

i must've missed something somewhere.....

it's the same board in the mag as it is in the post here at BOL......

hmmmm were Renntigers around in 96-97???

wow my bad :smashfrea Must be all the booze you hear those college kids drinkin these days.

[NateW]

The board gets smaller as you go faster that is for sure. Theory of Relativity revealed.

:lol: That's awesome.

I am going to use that on the next person who asks why so long...