SES pics

[bschurman]

Bob asked me to put the link up for all to see, so I obliged.

http://2wheel.smugmug.com/gallery/4336905_C3jvV#254407574

[Shred Gruumer]

Some of the best resolution camera work... Sunny and warm helps!!!

Nice job...

Helmet ..what the fruqe is in you goddam hands.. don't look like Schtubby.. doh!!:smashfrea

Thanks for the photos..

[dingbat]

Wow! Beautiful pics.:eek:

Thanks.

[eaglez]

Can you give some details on the camera/lens used for these shots? And what shutter speed were you using to get the "frozen" action shots? They look great!!

D.:biggthump

[bschurman]

Can you give some details on the camera/lens used for these shots? And what shutter speed were you using to get the "frozen" action shots? They look great!!

D.:biggthump

Bob Jenney is the photographer and he shoots a Nikon D300 and I am betting he used his Nikkor 70-200 f2.8 lens for those. The action shots appear to be taken at 1/2000 to 1/3200 of a sec. The info for the photos is available by hovering over the right hand side and click on info.

->Ben

[eaglez]

Bob Jenney is the photographer and he shoots a Nikon D300 and I am betting he used his Nikkor 70-200 f2.8 lens for those. The action shots appear to be taken at 1/2000 to 1/3200 of a sec. The info for the photos is available by hovering over the right hand side and click on info.

->Ben

Hey Ben, Thanks for the info. That D300 is the holy grail of cameras for me. I shoot a Nikon D70 and for my non pro needs it probably suffices. The 2.8 lens and the quick shots per second of the D300 definitely shines through here.

D.:biggthump

[Gecko]

I have an 80-200 2.8 that I use on my D70 it works great though I too would love the fps of a D300

[willywhit]

stellar pics :biggthump
http://2wheel.smugmug.com/gallery/4336905_C3jvV#254407872
is that a wheelie ? I've never seen a board coil back like a cobra.
IS Gilmour in any shots ?
http://2wheel.smugmug.com/gallery/4336905_C3jvV#254407872_C4bga-X3-LB

[Furi]

those are some great shots! Thanks for sharing! Man that D300 takes some amazing shots....

[Dave ESPI]

Nice !

Always good to get various riders in still frames to see body posture and compare their stances against our own and angles of attack.

Seems like there isa lot of "goofy footed" riders in the pics !

[Victory]

Boy, you guys really got screwed on the weather! So jealous right now.

[Gecko]

Man that D300 takes some amazing shots....

I hate reading that, the camera while nice is but a tool it can't (contrary to popular opinion and a good remote) take the pictures by itself. It needs the creative input of a skilled photographer.

[Vahur]

Some really nice action captured here. Of course D300+70-200 Nikkor is the best combination Nikon can offer to day for DX format and very much suitable for such task. However, riding with such combo means that one has to load belly with 4-5 pints of lager in order to balance all the weight in backpack :ices_ange
Can't wait for possibility to shoot with similar combo of mine some real carving action. Maybe next weekend ;)

[Vahur]

I hate reading that, the camera while nice is but a tool it can't (contrary to popular opinion and a good remote) take the pictures by itself. It needs the creative input of a skilled photographer.
I agree that the role of photographer is most important, but the role of camera is also important, at least for shots like these: with suitable camera it's much easier to focus on photographing instead of overcoming camera limitations. Most (if not all) compact cameras are simply not up to the task: they lack dynamic range, are slow to focus and shoot, frame rate and buffer size are inadequate, typical minimum shutter speed 1/1000 means that one has to shoot with minimum aperture and thus be limited with diffraction while shooting sunny mountain slopes with contemporary pixel-crammed small sensors, LCD framing is unusable in sunny (and cold) weather etc. I'd say that one has to have DSLR for good results, up from there image quality differences are minor, it's more about adjustability and (secondary) features.

[bschurman]

I agree that the role of photographer is most important, but the role of camera is also important, at least for shots like these: with suitable camera it's much easier to focus on photographing instead of overcoming camera limitations. Most (if not all) compact cameras are simply not up to the task: they lack dynamic range, are slow to focus and shoot, frame rate and buffer size are inadequate, typical minimum shutter speed 1/1000 means that one has to shoot with minimum aperture and thus be limited with diffraction while shooting sunny mountain slopes with contemporary pixel-crammed small sensors, LCD framing is unusable in sunny (and cold) weather etc. I'd say that one has to have DSLR for good results, up from there image quality differences are minor, it's more about adjustability and (secondary) features.

Agreed, but don't discount the ability of post processing and shooting RAW to pull off magic that otherwise would be unattainable. This is not in reference to Bob's photos as I know him personally and I have seen that he takes great photos right from the camera. Rather just a general comment on digital photography today.

->Ben

[Furi]

I hate reading that, the camera while nice is but a tool it can't (contrary to popular opinion and a good remote) take the pictures by itself. It needs the creative input of a skilled photographer.

I agree Gecko - I guess I should have stated my comment a bit better. I definitely wasn't trying to remove the creativity and skill of the photographer from the finished product.

I guess I was trying to get at is that I can't get over how crisp and how much detail can come out of digital photos. I dabbled in photography back in school and worked mostly with B+W enlargers, I never quite got good enough with color. Post-processing is somewhat of a mystery to me with digital so I tend to just credit the camera which is probably the wrong way to look at it.

[photodad2001]

Someone also likes their 15mm lens for the stretching effects too.

[Vahur]

Someone also likes their 15mm lens for the stretching effects too.
Seems more like 12-24 zoom to me (Nikkor? Tokina?). I'd like to know, which lens it is actually: newest Nikon models (D3 and D300) are able to remove CA, but in some posted images it's clearly visible (group shots). If it's Nikkor, then assumably there are limits to in-camera processing, if it's third-party lens, then most likely it's not working with non-Nikkor lenses. This of course assumes, that images are taken as JPG, not as RAW and processed later.
But yes, using such wide angle helps to put things into perspective :)

[Gecko]

well I ran the photolab on the USS Kittyhawk for 2 1/2 years dealing with 15 photographers worth of imagery and the post production of it. My best photographers cared more about there lenses than they did the body attached to it. More of them used D70's than D2h/x or D200 because the quality wasn't appreciably better and the light weight was more important especialy attached to lenses like a f2.8 300mm, f2.8 400mm or a f4 200-400mm. the Nikor 12-24 is nice but Sigma's 12-24 is brighter and cheaper

[bschurman]

Seems more like 12-24 zoom to me (Nikkor? Tokina?). I'd like to know, which lens it is actually: newest Nikon models (D3 and D300) are able to remove CA, but in some posted images it's clearly visible (group shots). If it's Nikkor, then assumably there are limits to in-camera processing, if it's third-party lens, then most likely it's not working with non-Nikkor lenses. This of course assumes, that images are taken as JPG, not as RAW and processed later.
But yes, using such wide angle helps to put things into perspective :)

Wide angles were taken with a Tokina 12-24. I believe that Bob is not real happy with it even after playing with the in camera AF fine tuning. He is going to trade it in for the nikkor 14-24 f/2.8

->Ben

[Helmut Karvlow]

All I know is the stuff was over 5 grrr. and he does a hell of of job:biggthump

[0815-fahrer]

Hi all....

just to say in front, it was great meeting up with all you guys and gals :biggthump

here some pics I also posted on the Frozen-backside...

best regards to all from good old Europe

[0815-fahrer]

some more

[0815-fahrer]

.....

[0815-fahrer]

and the last

[Jack Michaud]

Most (if not all) compact cameras are simply not up to the task: they lack dynamic range, are slow to focus and shoot, frame rate and buffer size are inadequate, typical minimum shutter speed 1/1000 means that one has to shoot with minimum aperture and thus be limited with diffraction while shooting sunny mountain slopes with contemporary pixel-crammed small sensors, LCD framing is unusable in sunny (and cold) weather etc. I'd say that one has to have DSLR for good results.

I guess I didn't take this with my 2003 4mp Canon S45 then...

http://www.bomberonline.com/JackM/ej1.jpg

Of course DSLRs are going to be better and more consistent, but greatness is possible with a p&s. It amazes me how many people are clueless about the half-press, and claim their camera has too much shutter lag.

I love my DSLR, but Gecko is right.

[Gecko]

I guess I didn't take this with my 2003 4mp Canon S45 then...Of course DSLRs are going to be better and more consistent, but greatness is possible with a p&s. It amazes me how many people are clueless about the half-press, and claim their camera has too much shutter lag.

I love my DSLR, but Gecko is right.


Nice shot Jack, I taught my wife how to shoot using a Yashicamat TLR she moved on to a Japan Spec Canon Powershot 400. The shots she gets with it rival what I get with equivalent lens'd D70.

Image clarity is combination of camera, lens and the photographer, the first to are a given that except for the extremes (really long and really short) anything above bargain basement, quality is pretty equal. The Photographer is the only real variable...creativity and skill with their equipment are what make a photographer not the latest whiz bang camera no matter how nice it is:eplus2:

[Vahur]

I guess I didn't take this with my 2003 4mp Canon S45 then...(snip)

I love my DSLR, but Gecko is right.
Sure you did, unless you forged EXIF info :) I had S50 and used it some 4 years ago. Managed to get some more-or-less decent pics (though nothing so good as yours) but after buying DSLR number of keepers went up considerably. About a year ago I reviewed my images and put some to my web site; now when I look at them the difference is noticeable between compact and DSLR camera images. I'm not sure that my photographic level went up so much, so I hope upgrading gear helped and it's not just waste of money :freak3: But Gecko is right, of course, I'm just not skilled photograper and I'm lacking creative input.:eplus2:
But to keep this more SES-images oriented:
I didn't notice, that someone mentioned it here so I do it: there are pictures from Feb, 15th also available: follow original link and Sports->Aspen 2-15-08.

Love this image:
http://2wheel.smugmug.com/gallery/4346442_miUrm#255014168

[Vahur]

Wide angles were taken with a Tokina 12-24. I believe that Bob is not real happy with it even after playing with the in camera AF fine tuning. He is going to trade it in for the nikkor 14-24 f/2.8
->Ben

I have same lens, but haven't had opportunity to put it into real test (got couple of weeks ago and with overcast weather not much to photograph), maybe this weekend. Photographing large group of people is stressful for any lens, as for having recognizable faces one has to see image almost in 100% zoom. CA seems to be main weakness for this Tokina lens, other issue it ghosting against light sources, otherwise it should be quite solid performer according to reviews.
14-24 is great lens (literally and optically) and should be head and shoulders above all others, but costs an arm and leg (at least here in Europe: almost USD 3000 :mad:)

[Gecko]

Sure you did, unless you forged EXIF info :)

you would be surprised how easy that is to do...

[alexgforce]

Bob asked me to put the link up for all to see, so I obliged.

http://2wheel.smugmug.com/gallery/4336905_C3jvV#254407574

These pictures are GREAT!!
However Bob was showing more of them during the banquette. Any chance he will be posting more pics???????

[Helmut Karvlow]

Yea Bob how bout the (hero shots) or where can we get them from you??????

[Mellow Yellow]

NO PICTURES FOR YOU! ;)

http://2wheel.smugmug.com/photos/255014569_sfVhW-M.jpg

Here is a link to pics Bob took on the 15th....

http://2wheel.smugmug.com/gallery/4346442_miUrm#255014569

[carverchick]

Next year you must tell maxie to bring the hat back and be prepared to teach us "The Dance" from the luau :P


Hi all....

just to say in front, it was great meeting up with all you guys and gals :biggthump

here some pics I also posted on the Frozen-backside...

best regards to all from good old Europe

[carverchick]

Don't you wish your boyfriend was hot like me :)



NO PICTURES FOR YOU! ;)

http://2wheel.smugmug.com/photos/255014569_sfVhW-M.jpg

Here is a link to pics Bob took on the 15th....

http://2wheel.smugmug.com/gallery/4346442_miUrm#255014569

[bschurman]

This came from Bob for you all.

-----------------------------------

Thanks for all the comments! It was excellent being in Aspen and seeing everyone again.



I just got home at 2:00 AM and have a lot of images to edit and post. Give me a couple of days. A link will be posted when they’re ready.



High res images and prints will be available for purchase through SmugMug. They will be inexpensive. Please contact me directly for permission to use any image for publication.



Thanks again,



Bob Jenney - 2wheel at Comcast dot net.

[0815-fahrer]

Next year you must tell maxie to bring the hat back and be prepared to teach us "The Dance" from the luau :P

got some nice and funny video footage on the dance :D:D:D

Max will:AR15firinme for that :eplus2::eplus2::eplus2:

especially that we had to steal his MP3 player to get the music :p:p

[Newmax]

I never did that dance! :angryfire

[alexgforce]

I checked again and new images have been added.
All the images come with a proof sign written on them.
Does any one have any idea how to purchase an actual photo? It looks like if I click on buy photo (smugmug) I only get options for prints.

[GeoffV]

I checked again and new images have been added.
All the images come with a proof sign written on them.
Does any one have any idea how to purchase an actual photo? It looks like if I click on buy photo (smugmug) I only get options for prints.

Alex just select a photo you want to buy and then click on the shopping cart in the top left corner and follow the instructions from there. It's pretty simple.

[alexgforce]

Thanks Geoff,
But I tried everything and the only option I get is to buy prints. According to the instructions the gallery creator needs to put a save icon somewhere. Unless I am doing something totally wrong!!

[GeoffV]

Alex,

Just spoke to Bob. He’s reedited a lot of the images to be suitable for printing at 8x10. The 1st batch was uploaded last night and he’s expecting that the rest will be uploaded later this evening. Once all the images have been uploaded, you’ll be able to purchase prints and/or the digital image. If you want to print larger than 8x10, then please send Bob an email with the file number and the size you wish to purchase. He’ll reedit that image and upload it in the larger size.

Use this link, the original one will not work
http://bjphotography.smugmug.com/gallery/4346442_miUrm#257377584

Be patient. Editing takes some time.

[SEJ]

Great Pic.s. Thought I'd bump it so it's easy to find.
Scott

[alexgforce]

Geoff, how can I contact Bob?
I need a couple of images for magazine publication.
Thanks for all your help.

[trailertrash]

Geoff, how can I contact Bob?
I need a couple of images for magazine publication.
Thanks for all your help.


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