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Cyrus the virus
March 16th, 2004, 01:29 PM
From Sept 2004 we will offer our new hardboot VIRUS Evolution to all carvers on the planet. We testet now for more than 2 years in construction on a perfect hardboot. Our totally redesigned UPZ
(former UPS) hardboot has all features we need to have a perfect hardboot. With a boot engineer from Austria which has constructed also the actual ski boot of Bode Miller we have designed and constructed a five buckle + velcro strap boot made of polyamid 12 a a extremely durable nylon material which doesnīt change his flex in cold temperatures.
It has all options you need for carving and with nan extra sole adapter you can also use it for skiing and boarding with a buckle binding. Its Intec compatible and has a thermoformable inner boot! Pics will be soon availlable at www. virus-snowboards.de

D-Sub
March 16th, 2004, 02:50 PM
whats the projected price?

Randy S.
March 16th, 2004, 03:07 PM
Please post an update and pictures when available. Will this be the same as the UPS boot? How is it different from the Head boots?

nils
March 17th, 2004, 04:14 AM
For a spring system that work ....:)
I hope they manage to design one on them!!!


Nils

d b
March 17th, 2004, 08:09 AM
bodie miller? doesn't he wear a nordica Doberman? mite be a little stiff for alpine snowboard application?? also you mite think of an English version on your website for your non German speaking friends. what about a US distributor?

Danksche

Maciek
March 17th, 2004, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by Cyrus the virus
From Sept 2004 we will offer our new hardboot VIRUS Evolution to all carvers on the planet. We testet now for more than 2 years in construction on a perfect hardboot. Our totally redesigned UPZ
(former UPS) hardboot has all features we need to have a perfect hardboot. With a boot engineer from Austria which has constructed also the actual ski boot of Bode Miller we have designed and constructed a five buckle + velcro strap boot made of polyamid 12 a a extremely durable nylon material which doesnīt change his flex in cold temperatures.
It has all options you need for carving and with nan extra sole adapter you can also use it for skiing and boarding with a buckle binding. Its Intec compatible and has a thermoformable inner boot! Pics will be soon availlable at www. virus-snowboards.de


That is:

www.virus-snowboards.de

Tim Kienitz
March 17th, 2004, 10:14 AM
Are these the same boots offered by Dan Yoja? His website describes the same boot materials in a new UPS shell. Unfortunately there were manufacturing problems this year making them unavailable.

Tim

Kent
March 17th, 2004, 11:45 AM
Hey hey....a Euro acknowledging a US Skier!

This is a great day.......

;)


I'm not one to put too much hope on new product propaganda....but it's certainly no small undertaking to design/re-design a boot. The capital cost of molds alone is simply crazy....

Although this sounds like a material change.

As for the UPS RSV (if that is what we're talking about): It could use a plastics change along with a beefier spring system and NO (I repeat NO) cant (Lateral Flex) adjuster. Darn thing always comes loose.....

K

p.s. Opps....one other suggestion. Redesign the rear heel block like all other SB boots. The "bottom" fits like any other sb boot(Intec/FAST heel), but the top portion (for rat trap bail bindings) is rather screwy depending on the brand of binding.

Cyrus the virus
March 17th, 2004, 01:16 PM
Bode Miller now uses a Fischer soma ski boot like most of all the top ski athletes. The mold we produce is a redesigned UPS .
We changed the inner boot made the side flex from loose to a the
different positions fixed canting an we redesignes the lean forward mechanism with stronger springs we made the shell
2 cm higer to the possibility to use a velcro strap. We changed the buckles to a stronger version. Color will be red shell grey tongue . Produced in 500 Pairs as a VIRUS limited edition!

Shred Gruumer
March 17th, 2004, 01:25 PM
Ja, I hope I don't get fined by the dang yahoos in Congress!

There is soo much wrong mit utter boots dan Raichles, they are only ones whoo understand how da bukels should be made and how impotent the middle buckle is to have freedom to bend at that all impotent ankle buclkel thats why it still has the wire cords instead of a strap ,, those darn straps stop your flex and any other buckle than the ratchit type pop loose as you verk your boot.

****ing stupid boot mfg's they just don't get, it they slap a snowboard heel on it and call it a snowboard boot.

Lets god dam dezine one before the world gets sucked into a vacuum!

Don't get me started, Ja I mean it!

Right said Shred:mad:

Cyrus the virus
March 17th, 2004, 01:52 PM
Hello Shed , Iīm so glad to hear that you like the raichle boots. Me and all my friends , customers and our worldcup riders donīt.
So ride on an have much fun with unflexible, notworking and much too stiff raichle 700 AF īs( oups sorry now deeluxe indys) on your feed.
Right said cyrus ( 20 years odf riding!)

UK2TX2CA
March 17th, 2004, 02:10 PM
So it's not the UPS boot then? I ask as it sounds like the old UPS RX model:
http://www.snowboard.no/ups/images/rs_kop.jpg

I guess not since you said it was a five buckle boot.

Regards,
UK2TX2CA

Tim Kienitz
March 17th, 2004, 02:50 PM
UPSdotcom shows a red FIVE buckle polymide 12 nylon boot with grey tongue.
Tim

John Gilmour
March 17th, 2004, 03:06 PM
I'd like to see a good progressive rate spring design in the boot.

Also I'd like to see cuff that switch from left to right and can "flip" so a rider can make boots biased for goofy and regular footers.

Perhaps just selling them with an extra set of cuffs would be best.

For years I'm pounding my shin into one side of the tongue.
________
FORD AIRSTREAM SPECIFICATIONS (http://www.ford-wiki.com/wiki/Ford_Airstream)

nils
March 17th, 2004, 04:16 PM
We also don't like the Raichles/Deeluxe that much and prefer a stiff shell that is controlled by a effective spring system. Funny to see that few riders in the top ten have them Raichles. Some ride special world cup raichles that u don't see on shelves ( even stiffer plastics) some ride nortwave .950 that are 3 year old ( Bozetto does), and some ride whatever they can, from old Burton to Head....

I think improving the raichles with a good spring system (Fin...?)
would be a great thing already! But if Cyris team can come out with something we could like why not ( hope we can test them Cyrus :)

Nils

Baka Dasai
March 17th, 2004, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by nils
I think improving the raichles with a good spring system (Fin...?)

I think I remember Fin mentioning the possibility of selling a modified RAB for the Raichle/Deeluxe boots. Any news on this?

Maybe <a href="http://www.carver.cc/gallery/photo.php?photo=609&exhibition=3">something like this</a>?

I wouldn't mind that for my 423s. They're too stiff when locked, but too soft when unlocked.

As for the "UPZ", bring 'em on. The more boots the merrier.

Neuffy
March 23rd, 2004, 04:43 PM
Well, if your boot is going to be the "perfect hardboot," it had better have a highly adjustable (up to an including easy replacement of spring(s)), NON-CATCHING bidirectional spring system for forward/backward lean. If not, it's useless. People come in so many different weights and styles that without this this, the boot will only be truly great for a very small percentage of the user base.

Baka Dasai
March 23rd, 2004, 04:52 PM
Do you really need a spring for backward flex? Isn't the give in the plastic shell enough?

Neuffy
March 23rd, 2004, 04:53 PM
Really depends on the shell (both material and design of the hinge), doesn't it? I'd guess about 1-3 cm backflexspring, 2-7 cm forwardflexspring.

LeeW
April 26th, 2004, 11:54 PM
Im a little anxious on when will it come out. I'd like to have those Madd boards, but these boots are my uppermost priority. Mr. Yoja tells me he'll notify me asap. Im wondering how's the progression going with those UPZ boots.

skeez rule
April 27th, 2004, 11:30 AM
technica Icons they have carbon fiber so they are better!
and the cost more too wich allso means they are better.
when will you knuckle draggers learn

Mellow Yellow
April 27th, 2004, 12:11 PM
technica Icons they have carbon fiber so they are better!

Persistent isn't he....

Zcarver
April 27th, 2004, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by skeez rule
technica Icons they have carbon fiber so they are better!
and the cost more too wich allso means they are better.
when will you knuckle draggers learn



Just because something costs more doesn't mean that it's better. It is what works best for you and what you can afford.:D

lonerider
April 27th, 2004, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Zcarver
Just because something costs more doesn't mean that it's better. It is what works best for you and what you can afford.:D

ZCarver, you do realize the person is obviously just pretending to be a troll and saying sill things because he's bored... no one is really that stupid.

NateW
July 7th, 2004, 11:34 PM
I stumbled on a sneek peek:

http://www.rabansersnowboards.com/eng/eng_factory_boot.htm

No real info, just a couple photos. They look like UPS boots without graphics.

bobdea
July 8th, 2004, 06:49 AM
the UPS boots @ Dan Yohas site

D-Sub
July 8th, 2004, 01:40 PM
F-UGLY!

bobdea
July 8th, 2004, 03:12 PM
I just had to
sorry D-sub

D-Sub
July 12th, 2004, 03:00 PM
how would you know about my sister OR these boots since neither actually exist?

oh...edit...";)"

Hans
October 29th, 2004, 11:51 AM
http://www.virus-snowboards.de/2005/assets/multimedia/Upz_virus.mov

Greets, Hans

kamran
October 29th, 2004, 01:52 PM
and what's the price?

Thanks Jeffrey

Jeffrey Day
October 29th, 2004, 02:21 PM
http://www.upzboots.com/

...UPZ Boots-North America has them in stock I believe for $389.00usd & $489.00cdn! Dan seems like a nice guy who responds to e-mails quickly. Gotta love people/companies that cater to us alpine freaks!!

Hope this helps & happy trails!

Randy S.
October 29th, 2004, 02:36 PM
Much more detailed pics on the virus site than on Yoja's. Same boots though. Dan's a good guy to deal with. He was responsive to me when I had questions. I notice they added a booster strap built into the high back (which seems higher than before). That's a good thing, but I'd suggest replacing theirs with a Booster brand one (they sell them here on Bomber). The real Booster strap is elastic. Therefore it gives and provides the added stiffness you want, with less shin bang and more flexibility. I've been really impressed with my booster straps. They are way better than the ones on my ski boots (which are just like the stock ones on these new UPZ boots). Next to custom footbeds, these are the best upgrade to your boots.

Kent
October 29th, 2004, 04:55 PM
FWIW - It doesn't look like they addressed the issue with the rear heel block. Still isn't going to fit certain bindings.....

Also, we need a status on the cant mec. Does it have a 100& lock out?

I have (2) pair of UPS RSV with cracked heels (on the removeable part..the WHOLE heel)....and I don't even ride Bombers or Cateks. Although...they did ride nice (minus the cant mec)

K

philfell
October 31st, 2004, 03:43 PM
Why do they have a picture of Klug in the Olympics, he dosn't ride UPZ boots or snowpro bindings or Goltz boards? And the racer on the far left pic apears to have old Rachles' for boots. It would be nice if they actually used their own product in their advertising not just takeing any random race photo and putting it on their site. www.upz.com