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queequeg
January 5th, 2008, 08:59 PM
Man!

I had my best day of the season today ... I finally had it all hooked up. I grew my balls back, was pumping out strong dynamic arcs, riding the steeps with confidence, playing with the terrain features, initiating my turns with the uphill edge ... I felt like a bloody rock star. for the first time since I started back up again, I had it all together, on a beautiful sunny day in southern Vermont.

But all good things must come to an end, I was carving heelside up a knoll on a steepish run at speed, and transitioned to a toeside just at the peak of the knoll, only to discover that the other side of the knoll fell away WAY more steeply than the approach ... so rather than digging into a nice long frontside arc, I just watched the ground drop out from below. I tried to recover for a decent landing but I was pretty much parallel to the ground. Probably fell 12-15 feet at speed. landed face/neck/ shoulder first on some new-england hardback with an audible snap, so I'm out for five to eight weeks with a broken clavicle. Just when I was getting good again. I'll be back as soon as I can be.


I am proud to report that I rode all the way down to the lodge with the injured body (thankfully, without further incident).

Thankfully there has been little in the way of pain, with the exception of shirt removal proceedings (yyyyyyyyeeeeeoooow!).

What sucks more than taking a bumpy/crowded 4.5 hour drive back to NYC with a newly broken clavicle?





getting home and realizing you forgot your keys.

Thankfully, I got to sit next to a cute chinese girl on the bus with a buttery voice, and thankfully, my super was willing to climb the fire escape for me.

back to my one-handed food.

Any advice for sleeping with a broken clavicle??

Jim
January 5th, 2008, 09:46 PM
Yup, mine was on a real good day too. I let the docs convince me to leave it to mend on its own and now have a huge bump. Should've gotten a plate instead. Heal fast

scotts.Scheinman
January 5th, 2008, 09:55 PM
ouch man, that sucks. feel better.

queequeg
January 5th, 2008, 10:30 PM
Yup, mine was on a real good day too. I let the docs convince me to leave it to mend on its own and now have a huge bump. Should've gotten a plate instead. Heal fast

hrrrm ... I will definitely bring this up with the doc on monday!

Blue Bird
January 6th, 2008, 12:00 AM
I'm a big fan of plates also. a full body pillow helped me to sleep..it was like curling up to my favorite gal..I ended up needing it for about three weeks.

If you have the chance, look for a surgeon that likes to be aggressive, that helped me the last time I broke my collarbone..Mine was in three pieces. the first time I was in the butterfly as seen in Jim's photo's. the second time we just let it go and the third time was the plate. The first two breaks are the ones that I still feel when the weather changes.

Good luck and do all of the PT that you can.. I was able to get about 95% of my use back.

guesswho
January 6th, 2008, 12:56 AM
Damn, that sucks big time. Sorry to hear that, the same thing happened to me a couple years ago right at the beginning of the season, except it was summer and a different sport. I didnt get a plate, just a strap. I was told that theres really nothing that can be done to immobilize a broken clavicle. I didnt know a plate was possible.

The only advice I can give is to sleep sitting up. If you dont have a comfy couch then prop as many pillows as you can under your neck and back till gravity isnt pulling your shoulders to the side anymore like it would be if you were on your back.

I had most of my arm back after 6 weeks, but was up and around after 5. Still have a bump though, several years later. Oh well, its a good scar to show the ladies, lol.

Good luck dude. The season isnt over for you, you should still have a good month or so after recovery.

Hans
January 6th, 2008, 02:28 AM
Don't know you but I wish you a fast recovery. Must be painful with sleeping.

But what I wonder, don't you guys wear any protection at all??
My full harness protector saved me a couple of times with sort likewise crashes. And I was glad wearing a helmet also. Sometimes when friends or collegues look what I am wearing before I go out snowboarding they say I am a SHELL man/puppet with all that harness'.

ursle
January 6th, 2008, 06:37 AM
I found the butterfly was all I needed, when it was on, no pain, instant sleep

(no brain no pain), wasn't offered a plate, wouldn't have let them cut me anyway, wierd feeling when I got back on the board, six or seven weeks later, whenever I changed from toe side to heel side or vice versa, the skin would rub on the bone, hurt like hell the first few times, after two weeks it was rubbed round, :)


Well, relax, be happy, much faster recovery time

skipuppy
January 6th, 2008, 09:17 AM
I second or third the body pillow/sleeping with someone idea. It forces you to sleep on your side which helped me tremendously when I bruised my ribs at Stratton.

queequeg
January 6th, 2008, 10:07 AM
slept on the couch last night with my upper body somewhat upright. Mostly because I didnt want to move in my sleep and the couch is small enough to keep me still.

Guess i'll be doing that for awhile :-)

thanks for the advice: re: plates/butterfly - right now I just have a sling.

Blue Bird
January 6th, 2008, 10:47 AM
Don't wait for any repairs. I waited about 3 weeks, dumb mistake. It just takes that much longer to get back in the game. I did see three doctors in that time and the last one is the one I went with. I was glad about that, but it took too long to get it repaired

queequeg
January 6th, 2008, 11:09 AM
Don't wait for any repairs. I waited about 3 weeks, dumb mistake. It just takes that much longer to get back in the game. I did see three doctors in that time and the last one is the one I went with. I was glad about that, but it took too long to get it repaired

Thanks, I'm going to see my doctor tomorrow morning first thing. She is excellent, and she knows it is going to be important to me that I get back to normal asap. I really want to minimize the effect this has on my season.

What is the strongest (safe) non prescription painkiller I can get? I'm worried about running out of meds, I only have a short supply.

Blue Bird
January 6th, 2008, 01:58 PM
from what I remember, i had quite a few left over. The oxycontin's are the strongest. Percaset, demarol, oxycodone(sp?), Percadan, darvaset all constipated me so bad that I stopped taking them as soon as I felt that I could. For me the pain after surgery wasn't to bad after the first week.

Edit- your doc will probably give you as much as you want when you see her tomorrow, the selection may be yours as well. The OTC pain meds will be fairly useless from my experience. If you do run out alleve has a strong reputation

www.oldsnowboards.com
January 6th, 2008, 02:08 PM
Sorry to hear of the injury.

Please email me (your email is turned off)

Bryan

cfj04
January 6th, 2008, 02:48 PM
Sitting on my couch - I feel your pain. Sorry to hear another brother is down!

As for the pain, my first martini when I got back from the hospital was just the ticket. But seriusly, pain sucks and being groggy from meds sucks. Using as much ice as possible to reduce the swelling and numb the pain seems to be my current best friend.

Bluebird - get use to your pillow again shortly

carverchick
January 6th, 2008, 03:28 PM
I guess I shouldn't be so poopy afterall. Last week while riding up in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, I took a digger and now I have a hairline high ankle fracture of the right leg.

The doctors have me wearing an immobilizer boot to further prevent injury and I've been really bummed out. I'm supposed to meet up with my boyfriend out in Lake Tahoe in 2 weeks. I really do hope I'm able to ride by then.

I'm sorry to hear about everyone's injuries, it sucks when it happens and can sometimes make things a little bleak.

queequeg
January 6th, 2008, 03:31 PM
Sorry to hear of the injury.

Please email me (your email is turned off)

Bryan

check your mail Bryan :-)


Sitting on my couch - I feel your pain. Sorry to hear another brother is down!

As for the pain, my first martini when I got back from the hospital was just the ticket. But seriusly, pain sucks and being groggy from meds sucks. Using as much ice as possible to reduce the swelling and numb the pain seems to be my current best friend.

Bluebird - get use to your pillow again shortly

I have to get some ice packs! I think what I got is a kiss on the forehead compared to your tib/fib fracture (ouch!!!). Keep your chin up man! All I have in the house is grappa, and an antique bottle of absinthe. I'm going to pick up a bottle of Scotch when I run some errands later on.

The good thing is this will give me some time to write the boot mods post I've been meaning to post!! albeit, one-handed.

k2slopesurfer
January 6th, 2008, 06:27 PM
having broken each clavicle at least twice, lets just say i will never have a house which does not contain a recliner, or at least a chaise for sleeping.... never operated on for my breaks (not one of them from boarding) but 3 shoulder ops.

broken clav hurt worse than my femur, the my right eye orbital and my ruptured bursa in the rt shoulder rolled into one. (though not the rotator cuff..yikes, lingers)

rest up, and stay still, might look into a stim machine if they dont do surg, i had 2 of my fractures almost non-union

Allee
January 6th, 2008, 07:53 PM
I guess I shouldn't be so poopy afterall. Last week while riding up in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, I took a digger and now I have a hairline high ankle fracture of the right leg.
Ow! Felicia! I hope this doesn't affect your SES!

Queeqeg - that bites. I did something similar 2 seasons ago, except it was a heelside and I landed on my back - it's an awful feeling when you suddenly realise that you're going to have a hard landing. Heal well.

queequeg
January 6th, 2008, 09:47 PM
might look into a stim machine if they dont do surg


hrrrrm - whats a stim machine?? Thanks everyone for all the well-wishes!!!

NateW
January 7th, 2008, 02:52 AM
When I broke mine, I had no trouble sleeping flat on my back, but sitting up was agony. I spent 4 weeks in bed, and another week laying down every chance I got. 3 months later my doctor pronounced me fully healed and gave me the green light for waterskiing. No lasting effects, other than a lump in my left collarbone.

On the other hand, I know a guy who could ride his bicycle to work with his busted collarbone, he just couldn't lie down. I guess it just depends on the nature of the break.

I was also told that nothing could be done other than a butterfly harness and a sling. It never occurred to me to seek a doctor who would be willing to bolt the pieces together, but I really wish I had. And if it happens again, I will. Thanks for the tip.

I was told that for every week of immobilization, it usually takes a week to get full movement back, and in my case that was correct. I had to do lots of exercises like swinging my arm like a pendulum, one inch in either direction at first, then two inches, etc. Then lean forward and swing it one inch side-to-side... steadily working my way up to full motion. I might have started on that stuff sooner, and spent more time doing it, if I'd realized how long it was going to take.

Curiously, when I broke mine, it didn't hurt at first. It was just really uncomfortable in a strange way. I knew something was wrong, but at first I thought I'd just knocked the wind out of myself. That was part of the problem, but it took a few minutes for me to figure out that my collarbone was also broken. But the next morning, when I sat up... boom! Pain like I'd never imagined!

The strongest pain meds I've taken were hydrocodone and oxycodone. I had one when I busted by collarbone and one from a surgery (the two most painful things I've ever experienced), but I forget which pills I got for which incident. Both were very effective though.

Get well soon.

Dr D
January 7th, 2008, 10:55 AM
Thanks, I'm going to see my doctor tomorrow morning first thing. She is excellent, and she knows it is going to be important to me that I get back to normal asap. I really want to minimize the effect this has on my season.

What is the strongest (safe) non prescription painkiller I can get? I'm worried about running out of meds, I only have a short supply.

there is a good herbal Cox-2 lox-5 inhibitor (same action as viox and celebrex without the heart attack side effect) available called phenocane that works great and is low risk compared to drugs. another that is harder to find is called vaxamine.

Dr D
January 7th, 2008, 10:57 AM
Phenocane not Phenocaine :biggthump

Dr D
January 7th, 2008, 11:00 AM
hrrrrm - whats a stim machine?? Thanks everyone for all the well-wishes!!!

micro current stimulation would help healing and pain.

See http://www.painmasterpatch.com/painmaster.asp?c=chiro

wei labs has an herbal poultice type patch that speeds bone healing immensely called the fasst patch and another called the whitee patch.

http://www.weilab.com/

I have used both with excellent results.

pdf on bone growth and micro current if interested see link 53 pages
http://www.painmasterpatch.com/PDF/BoneGrowth.pdf

Dr D
January 7th, 2008, 11:05 AM
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Description:





Adheres to the body around the affected area - delivers current through the skin.


Can be removed and applied when needed.


No side effects. Safe, easy to use.


Power supply in Patch unit – No external power supply needed-500 Hours of use.




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Two self-adherent active electrode patches, linked by a wire, generate the current of 50µA (micro amperes). This current is about 5% of the commonly used factor of 1 mA (mille ampere) for electrotherapy. The treatment, however, lasts significantly longer than that of the higher current devices.




Crucial to treatment is the quantity of charge carriers Q (ions), which are being moved in the body tissues in the electrical field between the electrodes. The measure of the degree of stimulation is cumulative in accordance with the equation:

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Standard Device


Q= 1mA x 0.5 hrs. = .5ma hrs

Painmaster® Device


Q= 50 µA x 24 hrs. = 1.2mA hrs.




Features and Benefits:



No external power supply needed


Indicator Light


Reusable and disposable


Can help speed the healing process


Reduces swelling and inflammation


Ability to treat multiple areas of pain


Release muscle trigger points


Improves soft tissue regeneration




Treatment Capabilities



Arthritis


Fibromyalgia


Sciatica


Lower and upper back pain


Migraine headaches


Runners knee


Carpal tunnel


Muscle spasm


Tendonitis


Acute pain from injury


Sports injury


Bursitis


Swelling and inflammation


Hip pain


Leg cramps


Comparison to TENS

(Transcutanous Electrical Nerve Stimulation)

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Strength of Current

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Uses milliamps

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Uses microamps (1000 times weaker than TEN’s)

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Blocks transmission of pain carrying C nerve fibres

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Stimulates the regeneration of damaged tissue

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Effectiveness

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Effective in about 40 to 50% of cases

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Preliminary observational data reveals it be effective in about 85 % of cases

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Ease of Application

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Requires co-ordination and dexterity to adjust dials.

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Involves placing patches either side of treatment area

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Side Effects

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Some evidence that the relatively high output may cause cell electrolysis

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Might cause a little redness where electrode patches were placed, disappears after 10 minutes

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Causes discomfort in about one third of users

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No discomfort

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Sensation

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Causes mild tingling to throbbing

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Below sensory threshold

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Post Treatment

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Once switched off, there are no residual benefits

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Bioelectrical changes continue even after the MCT treatment stopped

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BadBrad
January 7th, 2008, 11:13 AM
From the lyrics to the old-time Appalachian tune "Soldier's Joy":

Well it's fifteen cents for morphine,
Twenty-five cents for beer,
Fifteen cents for the morphine,
Gonna take me away from here.

willywhit
January 7th, 2008, 11:32 AM
Yup, mine was on a real good day too. I let the docs convince me to leave it to mend on its own and now have a huge bump. Should've gotten a plate instead. Heal fast

No way, Jose ??!!

I'm curious what your Dr said.
I broke my clavicle when I was in my early 20's, getting launched high side over the bars of my rice rocket. NAsty crash but pretty lucky.
It just mended and I wore the clav strap for a month or two. Now it's a bump I never notice.
an audible "snap" ?? :confused: ouuuch !
Heal up and plan on riding again in late March.
pizza, drugs, coffee drinks, drugs, repeat
you were on a bus trip ???

Dave ESPI
January 7th, 2008, 02:05 PM
argh, that sux.... !

I was having a good day yesterday, and woremyself out. I went home "Sick" and today I'm definately ill. Nothing broken, but definately beat up.


I had my rear toe bail release on me as I was "stomping" a landing off a roller yesterday. Luckily I kinda felt it, and was on my heelside., so I sat it down.

I need to figure out a way to keep these td-2s from opening up on me. Perhaps a strap or some velcro around the toe bail will do teh trick, cause it freeks me out thinking this thing will open up again.......

queequeg
January 7th, 2008, 05:38 PM
No way, Jose ??!!

I'm curious what your Dr said.
I broke my clavicle when I was in my early 20's, getting launched high side over the bars of my rice rocket. NAsty crash but pretty lucky.
It just mended and I wore the clav strap for a month or two. Now it's a bump I never notice.
an audible "snap" ?? :confused: ouuuch !
Heal up and plan on riding again in late March.
pizza, drugs, coffee drinks, drugs, repeat
you were on a bus trip ???

Way!!!

I got a referral to an orthopedic surgeon who is supposed to be very good. Seeing him tomorrow am ... will post x-rays :-). I am going to be aggressive about trying to get this thing to heal quickly. Hoping to ride again by the third week of february, if gingerly. My crash was wicked nasty so I'm lucky it isnt that bad. I'm just frustrated that it is going to put a damper on my first real season in many years... Otherwise, she gave me plenty of drugs. I'm working from home this week.

Hrrrm - I'm thinking of getting a motorcycle this summer, or learning anyway.

Yeah, I take a bus from Manhattan to VT to ride on the weekends for day trips. Get up 3am, bus leaves at 4:30, sleep, ride, return :-).

queequeg
January 7th, 2008, 05:42 PM
micro current stimulation would help healing and pain.

See http://www.painmasterpatch.com/painmaster.asp?c=chiro

wei labs has an herbal poultice type patch that speeds bone healing immensely called the fasst patch and another called the whitee patch.

http://www.weilab.com/

I have used both with excellent results.

pdf on bone growth and micro current if interested see link 53 pages
http://www.painmasterpatch.com/PDF/BoneGrowth.pdf


Yhanks for all the good info D - I'm definitely going to ask the orthopedics doc about the stim machine!!!

NateW
January 8th, 2008, 02:19 AM
I had my rear toe bail release on me as I was "stomping" a landing off a roller yesterday. Luckily I kinda felt it, and was on my heelside., so I sat it down.

I need to figure out a way to keep these td-2s from opening up on me. Perhaps a strap or some velcro around the toe bail will do teh trick, cause it freeks me out thinking this thing will open up again.......

Go step-in. I had trouble with toe bails too (and usually when landing jumps) but Intec solved that.

Plus they are cool. Like, James Bond cool.

queequeg
January 8th, 2008, 04:45 PM
spoke with my surgeon today, I'll be joining the "riding with hardware thread this friday. Added x-ray to original post. Snap!

b0ardski
January 8th, 2008, 05:27 PM
I used a stim machine a few yrs ago for back spasms, worked like a charm. The one I borrowed was very adjustable for wave shape, wave length,& frequency. It took afew trys to dail it in, the wrong setting was pain, the right setting was bliss. Never thought about it enhancing bone growth but it makes sense to me.
Good luck

carverchick
January 9th, 2008, 02:52 PM
Well I'm going into week 3 (January 14th) and my leg hasn't shown much improvement. I still can't even lay on the right side of it.

I sure do hope I will be good by the time SES happens. Otherwise I will be the betty hobbling around with a stupid boot thingy on.:(

cfj04
January 9th, 2008, 02:54 PM
You and I can do our "booty" dance together. That is if I get to that stage by SES

carverchick
January 9th, 2008, 02:57 PM
Hopefully you will make it to SES. Hopefully I will be able to ride. Otherwise we can do the boot scooting boogie for everyone.




You and I can do our "booty" dance together. That is if I get to that stage by SES

Dr D
January 9th, 2008, 03:36 PM
Man!

??

looking at the XRAY I can'timagine it was ever a question whether or not to plate it!:eek:

It hasn't been reduced at all in that picture.

queequeg
January 9th, 2008, 05:14 PM
You and I can do our "booty" dance together. That is if I get to that stage by SES


Hopefully you will make it to SES. Hopefully I will be able to ride. Otherwise we can do the boot scooting boogie for everyone.

Sucks to see so many injuries so early on this season! Maybe we can all engage in some kind of bone-healing ritual so that we can all heal in time make it out to SES?? (I'm not signed up yet)

A friend of mind recommended a good Sports Medicine Doctor recently, I'm gonna hook up with him as soon as the surgery is done.

cfj04
January 9th, 2008, 05:28 PM
Is his name - Dr Slowdown?

:lol:

willywhit
January 10th, 2008, 10:36 AM
looking at the XRAY I can'timagine it was ever a question whether or not to plate it!:eek:

It hasn't been reduced at all in that picture.

riding with "plates"
nothing to be ashamed of........

queequeg
January 17th, 2008, 10:44 PM
Got pictures of the plates today, from what it looks like I can start arriving at the airport another hour earlier now.

Im such an attention whore!!!

Jim
March 21st, 2010, 04:42 PM
Well queequeg, I hope all is well with your shoulder. I will be in for major reconstructive shoulder surgery to reattach my collarbone to my shoulder and a bone graft near my neck to bring my shoulder back up into position. Seems that everyone missed the fact that the shoulder end of my collarbone was not attached to anything anymore and the inside pieces floated about until they found something to stick to. Mmmmm, nice

Lots of plates, screws, a bone graft and a paste made from my own blood...and no surfing or carving for 6 months. :barf:

queequeg
March 21st, 2010, 04:46 PM
Well queequeg, I hope all is well with your shoulder. I will be in for major reconstructive shoulder surgery to reattach my collarbone to my shoulder and a bone graft near my neck to bring my shoulder back up into position. Seems that everyone missed the fact that the shoulder end of my collarbone was not attached to anything anymore and the inside pieces floated about until they found something to stick to. Mmmmm, nice

Lots of plates, screws, a bone graft and a paste made from my own blood...and no surfing or carving for 6 months. :barf:

Bummer! That totally blows. My shoulder ... or at least that part of it, is totally well. I popped my shoulder out of socket a few times this winter. I'm probably going to look into rehabbing that this summer, but it is unrelated to the collarbone issue I had back then.

Jim
March 21st, 2010, 07:09 PM
Did you have your plate and screws removed? I don't want to go from protruding bone to the same in metal instead. I am told that they will take my arm out of the cast after 8 wks for a brief dangle every day for a few more weeks. Just whining.

Bobby Buggs
March 21st, 2010, 07:29 PM
Jim, I have a grade2-3 separation, Never got it operated, is that what caused your issues?

Jim
March 21st, 2010, 07:55 PM
I'm not sure of terminology but my collarbone broke loose from my shoulder before snapping in half and the separation was not noticed. Separation sounds good. It feels like my arm is not held up by my shoulder and my shoulderblade does not stay in all the way. The last xray shows that my shoulder is gradually dropping each year. I don't know how I have been able to paddle a surfboard the last 5 yrs.

acitarella
March 23rd, 2010, 09:44 PM
hey Jim.

is this the same Jim that broke his collarbone at Kirkwood riding with some dude from Boston 5 years ago. That was me. Sorry to hear that your collarbone still hasn't healed. Was a great day up to that point. That sucks.

Hopefully I'll be out in Kirkwood next year.

Alberto

Jim
March 23rd, 2010, 11:09 PM
hey Jim.

is this the same Jim that broke his collarbone at Kirkwood riding with some dude from Boston 5 years ago. That was me. Sorry to hear that your collarbone still hasn't healed. Was a great day up to that point. That sucks.

Hopefully I'll be out in Kirkwood next year.

Alberto

Hey Alberto,

Yup I am that Jim, and you were ripping on Upper Zachary that day too. What made me go to the rarely groomed black diamond run when all of the runs were killer that day is beyond me. I still remember your faces when I pulled up at the lift holding my arm. I have never taken the sled down yet.

Anyway...I got tooled bigtime and the docs missed it on the xrays.

I hope you are doing well. Your carving looked about as good as it can get in '05. I should be carving Upper Zachary again by January. Let me know and I will be there. (need a smiley on crutches)

Jim
March 23rd, 2010, 11:42 PM
Here is a good day last March at Upper Zachary, Kirkwood.

PolyMathMan
March 24th, 2010, 12:27 AM
I separated my clavicle from the scapula a couple of years ago. My son cut in front of me - hit him in the back and cracked a couple of his ribs. Crushed my shoulder enough to tear it all apart.
I know what you mean by the pain in getting the clothing off, especially when you got a doctor with a pair of shears in his hand waiting to cut off about $250 in clothing.
Really can't fix me, so I got a bone poking up. Great for freaking women out at parties, but you gotta get your suits refitted.
Best advice I can give is to heavily sedate your wife at bedtime - at least one of you will get some sleep.
Post wreck checklist:
1. Check if you still got your nuts.
2. Check if you still got your teeth.
3. Hold up thumb and announce "I'm fine"
4. Proceed to check for broken bones and internal damage.

Bobby Buggs
March 24th, 2010, 08:11 AM
I have one of those, Got it by riding backwards really fast in spring conditions at MT snow last day of the season. Did the inventory check and noticed my shoulder was killing me. Was not fun getting up and rode down holding my right arm. When I got to the bottom my friends and wife were wondering what took me so long. By that point I felt like I was gonna :barf: and asked for some water. I touched my shoulder and knew I was done. Went into the clinic, its pay at the time of service but I didnt care, in 40 minutes I had X rays, the diagnosis Vicodin on board and in a sling with Ice packs, Ready for transport.
http://www.evilsports.com/gallery/d/551-2/grade3_acrosep.gif

queequeg
March 24th, 2010, 09:16 AM
Did you have your plate and screws removed? I don't want to go from protruding bone to the same in metal instead. I am told that they will take my arm out of the cast after 8 wks for a brief dangle every day for a few more weeks. Just whining.

No, it's still in there. The doctor has did it has received plenty of praise from other doctors that have seen my shoulder since then (on account of dislocations, not related to this), and he recommended just keeping it in there. It feels pretty good nowadays.