Installing Intec heel...PANIC...need help

[185er]

Hey hey, I just put Intec on my Indy. When I move my leg (boot), there is a super small mouvement between the hell and the boot. Is that normal ?Please reassure me, I'm going riding tomorrow..
thanks

[philw]

Well it depends how small. You can adjust how much there is by tweaking the length of the binding... with F2s there's a screw under the front of the binding to do that. So take the boot off, click it in, then tweak the length a little, then check that you can still step in and out. There is always a little play there though, although it should be less than with the trad bindings.

[b0ardski]

when I put mine in I set the t-nuts with a long 3/8 drive extention & hammer to make sure spikes were set all the way into the plastic. could be where the play is coming from?

[eaglez]

Are you talking about movement between intec heel and boot shell? Or Intec heel and binding receiver? I would say there shouldn't be any movement at all between heel and boot shell. It should be a tight perfect fit. And if it is the other scenario, the post above covers it.

D. :biggthump

[Ernie00]

it's ok .. if it moves.. if you crash and burn I'll be behind you and I'll pick up your board ;) ahahahah What are friends for ?

[185er]

It's between the Intec heel and the boot...very small mouvement when I flex

[b0ardski]

Take the liners out & set those t-nuts.
Also make sure the heel piece is setting in the boot sole all the way.

[185er]

Are youguyse using the T-nuts that came in the intec kit or use the one that are already in the boots ? I used the one in the boots (after asking Deeluxe, say it was ok) and it's gettint true the sole :nono: (****)

[csquared]

It may simply be a matter of tightening the screws until you can't turn them further. At this point, there should not be any movement between the heel and the boot shell but a small (microscopic) amount would not be a problem (the screws are engaged in the inserts so the heels can't go anywhere).

The plastic that the boot shell is molded from will tend to flow slightly and compress over time so it is a good idea to re-tighten the screws periodically. Also, the oscillating stresses of riding will pull the inserts further into the shell and loosen the screws. If the screws start to loosen, they can work themselves enough that they will actually fall out (I was surprised when this first happened to me). If you are riding on less than four screws per heel, you are at risk.

Two last points: take the liners out of the boots to dry them at the end of the day (the screws and inserts can corrode and potentially fail). Also, I have had inserts fail (see my thread called Intec Alert) and it is important to inspect the inserts once in a while to ensure that they aren't started to fracture from fatigue. Don't take chances.

[185er]

New boots with new intec, I just remove the liner, the t-nuts are stuck in the sole

[csquared]

Whether you are using the molded-in inserts or the loose 'T' nuts, I think it is a good idea to replace the 20 mm M5 screws that Intec supplies with 25 mm M5 screws and then install a nut on top of the inserts where the screw threads past the top of the inserts. The additional nut acts as lock-nut to keep the screws from backing out and the nut should retain the screw if the threaded stem of the 'T' nut fractures away from the flange. I think the extra nut should also reduce some of the movement that could cause metal fatigue at the junction between the 'T' nut stem and flange (where my 'T' nuts failed).

[185er]

Beside that,are anyone satisfied about their step-in ??

[eaglez]

The ones that are already in the boots are not T-Nuts. They just smooth edged nuts that are molded into the boot sole. The ones that came with the heels have those sharp edges on them that when hammered into the boot sole and screwed down with the heel screws, provide much better hold. Deeluxe would not tell you to modify their boots due to liability issues. I just did the Tnut install on my 8 year old AF600ts's last year. The stock nuts almost fell out on their own when I went to pop them out.

As for SATISFACTION... Intec, there is no substitute!!! Wouldn't ride any other way!!!

D. :biggthump

[RDY_2_Carve]

I think I've had this problem before, and I'm pretty sure it's the screw sizes. As I recall the screws are different sizes? The front two are shorter than the rear two?

Am I smoking crack? If so please disregard. :biggthump

[185er]

Cool, thanks D.

[b0ardski]

I've used switch, clicker, rattraps, old Nitro intecs, and newer intecs with xbones & cateks. No way will I never use anything but stepin bindings for the rest of my life, soft or hard.
:1luvu: :1luvu: stepin, stepout:1luvu: :1luvu:

[bschurman]

I think I've had this problem before, and I'm pretty sure it's the screw sizes. As I recall the screws are different sizes? The front two are shorter than the rear two?

Am I smoking crack? If so please disregard. :biggthump

Only on the Burton boots. With Deeluxe all 4 bolts are the same length, M5x20mm.

[Gecko]

The ones that are already in the boots are not T-Nuts. They just smooth edged nuts that are molded into the boot sole. The ones that came with the heels have those sharp edges on them that when hammered into the boot sole and screwed down with the heel screws, provide much better hold. Deeluxe would not tell you to modify their boots due to liability issues. I just did the Tnut install on my 8 year old AF600ts's last year. The stock nuts almost fell out on their own when I went to pop them out.

As for SATISFACTION... Intec, there is no substitute!!! Wouldn't ride any other way!!!

D. :biggthump

It really depends on the boots my Raichle 413's have Tnuts with spikes on them. I knocked one out, when I was installing my intec's, and saw that they were the same as what came in the kit except for color and put it back in my boot. As for satisfaction....absolutely I will never go back to toe clips

[Hans]

If you have the Indy's some time put the new longer T-nuts in. They are much saver. Also use the longer screws that came with the Intec heels.

There mustn't be absolutely no play between the boots and the heels. Especially when you have installed them correctly. If you look into your boots you can see the screws are almost coming above the T-nuts/or are equally under the topedge of the T-nuts. I have absolutely no play with my new Track 700 T (same shell). In fact the Intec heels are some what bigger (1/4mm) than the boot.

Do have play/movement with both boots?

[D-Sub]

then install a nut on top of the inserts where the screw threads past the top of the inserts.

Not sure if I'm understanding what you're suggesting, but in every pair of boots I've owned and put intec heels on, the t-nuts were flush with the floor of the boot. Any longer additional bolt/nut would protrude into the footbed area...

totally unnecessary, imo. Install them correctly from the start using quality hardware = no problem

and yes, perfectly happy with intec.

[Hans]

Any longer additional bolt/nut would protrude into the footbed area....

Can't be the case in the Track 700 because the T-Nuts are 1 cm under the integrated plastic hardfootbedsole of the boot. So the screws have some place to go above the T-nuts. Mine are just under/equally to the level of the ending of the T-nuts edges.

[D.T.]

Hey hey, I just put Intec on my Indy. When I move my leg (boot), there is a super small mouvement between the hell and the boot. Is that normal ?No. Lack of proper preload is the number one root cause of fastener failure. Translation - if the heel moves, that means the bolts are not tight; hence, you are more likely to experience bolt failure. Bolt failure = bad

[D-Sub]

Can't be the case in the Track 700 because the T-Nuts are 1 cm under the integrated plastic hardfootbedsole of the boot. So the screws have some place to go above the T-nuts. Mine are just under/equally to the level of the ending of the T-nuts edges.

Maybe suzukas were like that too and I've just forgotten. Still seems like overkill but better safe than sorry I guess.

[ealely]

What about Intec on Head Stratos Pro? Same as Deeluxe?
Do we have to set up the T-nuts provided with the Intec Heels or can I fix the screws directly? If not, with what kind of tool do you take those off?
No manual in the box...

[Sinecure]

What about Intec on Head Stratos Pro? Same as Deeluxe?
Do we have to set up the T-nuts provided with the Intec Heels or can I fix the screws directly? If not, with what kind of tool do you take those off?
No manual in the box...

They work just fine for me in the Heads with the built-in "T-Nuts". I've heard of people having trouble getting the screws out of the built in ones sometimes so you might want to replace them. I think Lonerider did that recently, you might ping him to see how they come out. I suspect you could just put a screw into the nut from the bottom and then bang on it with a hammer, but I'm not sure.

[RDY_2_Carve]

I did NOT install the included T-Nuts in my Heads and I've had no issues the past couple seasons.

It helps when the parking lot at your local hill turns into a mud pit and the mud drys up in the screw holes...

Last time I removed my Intecs I had to scrape for like 30 minutes to get all of that dirt out of the holes.

[bumpyride]

When installing Intec heels, use a blow dryer to soften up the plastic sole in the boot a bit before putting in the T-nuts. Then as somebody said use and extension drive from a ratchet set to start and set. I use a slide hammer (specialty carpenters tool for mine).

You never know how valuable a set on Intec bindings are until you break a rib in the middle of a steep bump run.

I'll never go back to anything else, just way to much fun especially if you install an extension so you don't have to even reach down to release. You can do it flat on your back when you can't even breathe.

Another note. When you're up to your buttocks in alligators off-piste where it's so steep you don't dare bend over-the Intecs are literally a life saver.

[ealely]

Ok thanks for your feed back.
Got some answers there as well :http://www.alpinecarving.com/boot_models.html

[NateW]

Alligators?

[Mark Brown]

They work just fine for me in the Heads with the built-in "T-Nuts". I've heard of people having trouble getting the screws out of the built in ones sometimes so you might want to replace them.

The problem with the stock "nuts" on the Heads is that over time they loosen up and then start spinning. You can't tighten the screws and and you can loosen them either -- a major PITA! There's a picture of the "nuts" in the Head section here (http://www.alpinecarving.com/boot_models.html).

1) Take the stock heels off
2) Thread an old screw partway in from the heel (outside) side
3) Use a hammer and hit the screw head to pound the nuts out -- do not reuse the screw after you're done wailing on it
4) Remove original nuts
5) Seat the T-nuts (supplied with Intec heels) with a dowel/piece of wood and a rubber mallet/hammer -- make sure the teeth of the T-nuts are fully seated
6) Use screws supplied with Intec heels and tighten securely -- BTW the screws are actually pozidriv, so you should be using a pozidriv screwdriver (see Pozidriv section here (http://www.alpinecarving.com/tuning.html))

There should be *NO* play between the heel and boot.

[bumpyride]

Alligators?


Literal translation: Scrub brush protruding above fresh snow with branches below that lie in wait for a stealth attack upon the unsuspecting off-piste adventurer.

[Surf Quebec]

Beside that,are anyone satisfied about their step-in ??

yes, very satisfy that I do not have to lean to clip/unclip the boot in the binding ....over 40 years old ...

using it on Deeluxe 700 and on AF600 before.