PDA

View Full Version : What angles do you ride on your soft boot board?



waypastfast
September 23rd, 2007, 07:56 PM
So i have been riding my alpine setup for the last 16 years at least and i am thinking of getting a soft boot board just to play around on and maybe do some powder days. SO seeing as how i haven't ridden anything but apline angles i am wondering what you guys out there tend to ride when you do ride your soft boot board? And any suggestions on where i should start. Thanks!

jnshapiro
September 23rd, 2007, 08:25 PM
45 and 40. But I have Burton plates on my softy board :smashfrea

7stg
September 24th, 2007, 12:37 AM
I run +28/+15 19" and that works well.

Pow
September 24th, 2007, 04:56 AM
i run -15 rear, +30 front on my softboot gear... i only ride softies on a rock board though:eplus2:

svr
September 24th, 2007, 05:26 AM
+27 or 30 front and +12 or 15 rear offset toeside 1cm.

pebu
September 24th, 2007, 05:46 AM
Man, I feel wierd runnin my 7 and 0. But I don't really carve with that. If I do I toe and heel out like mad. I'll do a little jibbing like that and that's prettymuch my bumps and off piste board. I'd like to do a little more off piste with my hardboard, so we'll see how that goes.

Dr D
September 24th, 2007, 08:41 AM
you need to have clearance and control period.

The right angle is whichever one puts your heels and toes on the edges without overhang.


higher angles can be done but you will burn out the back leg faster and sacrifice control at lower speeds.

lower angles will lead to over steering and boot out.

So the answer is that it is different for every board you ride.:D

kjl
September 24th, 2007, 10:03 AM
+39/+21

Was riding that way well before I even knew what hardboots were.

Buell
September 24th, 2007, 01:54 PM
Put them at any angle and someone will say that that is where they go! :biggthump

For softboots, my angles change quite a bit depending on what I am doing and what board I am riding. Toe and heel overhang are something to consider, but soft bindings (with highbacks) are not designed to be run at too high of angles, so you cannot usually eliminate it. Some people use riser plates since booting out on a great turn is quite frustrating.

I found as my technique evolves, different angles feel better or worse, so I am always trying different angles. Luckily softboot bindings are pretty easy to move.

Have fun experimenting!

shrederjen
September 24th, 2007, 11:52 PM
Plus 25 forward and
minus 9 aft.

Dont think I need softies again, after riding that Dynastar 3800 on plates!

ncermak
September 25th, 2007, 05:34 AM
I have small feet, but ride +9/-3. no overhang and carve it like a rock star. plus it makes the switch riding easier on the knees...

pokkis
September 25th, 2007, 05:45 AM
40/25

pokkis
September 25th, 2007, 07:37 AM
As per my signature: Swell Panik Magistral 185
When i had Swoard earlier i used there 50/40 angels with softboots :rolleyes:

Mike T
September 25th, 2007, 08:59 AM
21/12, Donek Wide 161, Salomon SP6 bindings, Salomon malamute boots size 8, all from 2001-2002.

D-Sub
September 25th, 2007, 01:59 PM
21/12

funny coincidence considering that you're a rush fan!

alpinegirl
September 25th, 2007, 02:41 PM
boot out in softies is rather a phenomenon of perception. granted, there are folks on this board like phil who have large feet who ride high angles because that allows them to avoid having 4 inches of overhang. i ride with very little overhang and still catch my toes and heels. funny thing though is that booting out is optional. unfortunately my brain hasn't caught on to that fact yet.

duckie duckie duck duck duck (i think a few seasons ago i declared myself never ever going to ride duck) but my angles are determined by overhang, and what hurts in my body. beats me what they are though. having a good natural stance allows for the greatest adaptation of the rider to whatever life is throwing at them (bumps, trees, small children, ice, gates, rails, pipe). if i were riding a stance that forced my body out of alignment, i'd be eaten alive by anything on the hill. i suspect that the same is true for most folks out there. ride on!

Mike T
September 25th, 2007, 03:02 PM
funny coincidence considering that you're a rush fan!

I find I can't tell the difference between 25/15 and 21/12 so Dirk, Lerxst and Pratt made the call for me :o

jtslalom
September 26th, 2007, 10:30 AM
Waypastfast,
I ride 45 front and 47 back with my soft bindaings. It may seem extreme but I never get toe drag and I can really drive my back knee on heelside turns.

Fastskiguy
October 3rd, 2007, 06:50 PM
As per my signature: Swell Panik Magistral 185
When i had Swoard earlier i used there 50/40 angels with softboots :rolleyes:

How did that work? The 50/40 angles with the Swoard

bumpyride
October 4th, 2007, 07:13 PM
So i have been riding my alpine setup for the last 16 years at least and i am thinking of getting a soft boot board just to play around on and maybe do some powder days. SO seeing as how i haven't ridden anything but apline angles i am wondering what you guys out there tend to ride when you do ride your soft boot board? And any suggestions on where i should start. Thanks!


Are you going to ride switch? If not, steeper angles would probably be better. Bumps and off piste on a carving board I ride 55 and 40, on a swallow tail and wider all mountain carvers I ride 45 and 30. I don't ride switch and the only reason I don't ride steeper angles on the wider boards is because it requires too much torque on my knees and ankles.

I think the board you decide on is going to dictate what your angles are.

I'm pointed down the hill and like to stay that way.

Jrobb
October 4th, 2007, 07:44 PM
As per my signature: Swell Panik Magistral 185
When i had Swoard earlier i used there 50/40 angels with softboots :rolleyes:

MMM Yo quiero Swell Panik


hota

gio
October 4th, 2007, 09:09 PM
45 and 40.

Me too!
Even when I have softboots I couldn't avoid to try to carve. :biggthump

Ciao, Gio

pokkis
October 4th, 2007, 11:13 PM
How did that work? The 50/40 angles with the Swoard
With F2 Joint HBX and F2 Hurricanes there is no problem, that is one freaking great soft combo. I'm targeting to test this winter them with Fatjack too :rolleyes:

Hans
October 4th, 2007, 11:21 PM
About 35/30 on a POGO Longboard 175 with Flow bindings. Carves very well.
Superb edgehold :1luvu:

bartron
October 5th, 2007, 09:09 AM
around +21 Front / +9 back. I used to use around +27F/+15B.

And I'm using Salomon Dialogue boots, 2001 model, I believe.

'later...

johnasmo
October 18th, 2007, 01:20 PM
Even though I do plate bindings at +65/+60 or so on carving boards, when I switch to soft boots and freestyle boards I'm usually around +15/-3. It's like two different sports. Don't try to adjust the angles to fit the board, fit the board to your feet. Size the board so your rear foot can be at low angles with just enough overhang so you can roll the board from edge to edge with little effort. Too little overhang and getting it on edge takes too much effort. Try as you might, you won't be laying the board over as far as with hard boots on a carving board, so if you've got 50 - 60 degrees of clearance from the board edge to you boot toe and heel, you'll be surfin' just fine.

SEJ
October 18th, 2007, 02:29 PM
Depends on your set up. I use to ride my old Alp on softies up to 45 degrees, but that was with a very stiff 3 buckle binding. (Burton Torques). I have to agree with the above , put your toes on one edge and your heels on the other.

bobdea
October 18th, 2007, 02:51 PM
I go 21 12 both forward

mopoet178
October 18th, 2007, 02:52 PM
i ride ~55,36 on my soft setup. it used to work fine but now Im spoiled from hardbooting.

LeeW
October 18th, 2007, 05:22 PM
oh wow, never noticed this threat.

10 and -15.

$trider
October 19th, 2007, 06:24 AM
23/15 on An atomic Don 165. When I put my plates on the same board I ride at 30/23. Carves in either setup and handles the bumps/pipe/park well.

Derf
October 19th, 2007, 06:26 AM
It's been so long since I rode softboots I don't even remeber which angles I like. It's somewhere around 24/15 or 21/12 or something like that, I don't even know.:confused:

Edit: I know I tried 30/21 and 39/30 and both suck!

Bricky
October 22nd, 2007, 07:39 PM
In my "prealpine days" I was always forward on both feet, up to 25/15 or so.

But now in my "postalpine days" on the 10%-20% of the time I use soft boots,
I have switched to DUCKFOOT stance, say 15/-15. Afterall, why have a softboot board if you are not going to go switch 50% of the time?

And I love my 3 pair of Flow bindings with the Burton ratchets I riveted on.

Bricky