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peter_x
March 28th, 2007, 06:40 AM
I am taking my sister boarding tomorrow and I have 3 boards to give her: an Alp 164, Amp 6.0, and Liquid Arc 164. She weighs 112lbs.

We flexed the boards. The Alp, which has only been used once, is the stiffest. The others are used more, and they both were a bit softer, about the same between them.

I think the correct board would be the Amp... it's the shortest, but still almost as tall as she is.

She'll probably be using softboots.

cfj04
March 28th, 2007, 03:38 PM
FYI - I have a like new AMP 153 for sale if you think the 6.0 is to long

tex1230
March 28th, 2007, 04:05 PM
The amp is the softest of that assortment, IIRC, as well as the shortest. She'll do ok on it.

peter_x
March 28th, 2007, 04:58 PM
cfj: Maybe I'll take you up on that later on if you still have it, I can't afford anything right now.

Thanks Tex.

cfj04
March 28th, 2007, 07:14 PM
$85 shipped if you find the funds. Less than a nice glass of wine in Manhattan on a Friday night

zoltan
March 29th, 2007, 04:27 AM
Is this her first time? If it is just rent equipment for her and put her in a class. Friends don't teach friends.

Phil
March 29th, 2007, 04:58 AM
Is this her first time? If it is just rent equipment for her and put her in a class. Friends don't teach friends.

Kin I git a amen bruthas?

V*L*A*D
March 29th, 2007, 05:07 AM
Is this her first time? If it is just rent equipment for her and put her in a class. Friends don't teach friends.

I disagree-
There are, frankly, more really bad snowboard instrcutors out there than good ones, these days.

Observe a few classes, find the one in which the instructor does not take his/her board off for most of the beginner class, and book a private lesson with that professional.

when you see the instructor who assembles a group of students, sitting on the snow, and proceeds to lecture them, run, do not walk, far away.

Phil
March 29th, 2007, 05:30 AM
Unfortunately, there are times when VLAD is right. I hope that the majority of the time he is wrong. The snowboard school that I just left was not anything like that. Of course, we had two instructor training clinics every weekday and three on the weekends. I feel that the instructors were very well trained. They did not take their boards off (unless it was a last resort to help a REALLY bad student) and they did not stand around yapping. If they did, they would hear about it from a supervisor, a trainer, or me.

I have also been to a few mountains where it is the exact opposite.

Generally, a bad instructor is still better than a well intentioned friend.

The best thing is to find out from locals who the better instructors are and take a lesson with them. Unfortunately, when you get a beginner package, you get whoever they give you.

Zoltan is right about the equipment, though. Most mountains are using equipment that actually helps you to learn. Find out if your mountain is one of them.

V*L*A*D
March 29th, 2007, 05:51 AM
Unfortunately, there are times when VLAD is right. I hope that the majority of the time he is wrong. The snowboard school that I just left was not anything like that. Of course, we had two instructor training clinics every weekday and three on the weekends. I feel that the instructors were very well trained. They did not take their boards off (unless it was a last resort to help a REALLY bad student) and they did not stand around yapping. If they did, they would hear about it from a supervisor, a trainer, or me.

I have also been to a few mountains where it is the exact opposite.

Generally, a bad instructor is still better than a well intentioned friend.

The best thing is to find out from locals who the better instructors are and take a lesson with them. Unfortunately, when you get a beginner package, you get whoever they give you.

Zoltan is right about the equipment, though. Most mountains are using equipment that actually helps you to learn. Find out if your mountain is one of them.

..sounds like phil worked with a better school, and this fact may even be the result of his own tenure, there.
I, too, wish that I were wrong on this point for the majority of the time. unfortunately, my observations show otherwise. hey- I remove my board at times, too- in the situations to which phil alludes.

A bad instructor is NOT, generally, better than a well-intentioned friend. That's the slogan of the industry "union" (;) ).

I've seen first-timers come away from far too many lessons with horrific new habits, unfortunately.
further- asking locals who the best instructor choices are will typically only tell you which instructors buy more rounds for their pals at the bar, or which instructors ride rails with the most style....great attributes, both, but they don't ensure a solid lesson.
precious few locals have much insight into what makes a good beginner lesson- most locals are concerned with terrain, snow conditions and avoiding the crowds. few hang out and watch the beginner hill.
I've no doubt that Phil is among the very good ones out there; unfortunately, this prediction doesn't neccesarily place him in the majority.
I wish that it did.