Anyone ever ride with Front boot near 90deg?

[DiveBomber]

Lately standing in my board/bindings, just getting back into the feel here in the living room, I kinda feel like i want my front binding steeper, at, if not almost 90deg. Gives me the feeling it would be easier to go straight.
Kinda makes me want to try a skwal..

[jtslalom]

The steepest I've been on the front is about 66-69 deg. I would imagine that it is like slalom water skiing. Both feet are at 90 deg.

[DiveBomber]

Only thing i dont like about the skwals is the SCR,

[No.2]

There's a guy i know that runs just about 90 on the front and on the back runs 55 with heaps of toe lift!? He gets around rideing it like a surf board. Works for him in powder but that only happens 4 times a year down here so...

[carverboy]

Experimented with ultra steep angles before, Found it felt great at speed, very comfortable. But ultimately wasn't worth the loss of control and balance at low speeds. Now days I just move both bindings to the same angle inside the edge of the board but usually not more than 56 degrees. I have seen enough good turns from enough stance angles (yes even duck!) that I really think there is no golden rule when it comes to stance. As long as you only alter one element at a time( width,angle,cant,lift, board,snowcondition) you should be able to find your personal "sweet spot" for riding.

[BobD]

I find it is impossible to get good tight (over your edge on icey days) toeside angulation on a skwal with 85/87 angles. Watch the skwal videos on line and you see what I mean.

BobD

[Jim Callen]

With 90 degree angles, you will have no control whatsoever. Why do you think world cup racers try and ride witht he shallowest angles possible?

Obviously not many people here are at world cup level, but it's still the same general idea.

[Skwalleur]

Only thing i dont like about the skwals is the SCR,

SCR?

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[Mr.E]

Side CutRadius

[Skwalleur]

Side CutRadius

Duh. :rolleyes:
Thanks.

Yes, they (Skwals) are generally quite generous with that, but I find I can push my Völkl Monocarver really hard to get really tight turns though.


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[Skwalleur]

With 90 degree angles, you will have no control whatsoever. Why do you think world cup racers try and ride witht he shallowest angles possible?

Obviously not many people here are at world cup level, but it's still the same general idea.

Are you saying I'm out of control riding on my skwals with 86-90?

It's really different to freecarve and to race... I'm after the feeling - not the fastest way down.

[carverboy]

When you go for the really steep angles you ride from the sides of your boots not toe to heel. you still have control. but like i said before at low speeds control def. gets" interesting" Ive taken a skwal out a couple of times and def prefer my race board for stability. But I know at least one guy who could rip it on the skwal, so like I said before any stance will work if you take the time.

[Jon Dahl]

My first pair of Snowpro's would rotate the front around to over 70 degrees when riding, before I finally figured out how to stop it. 70f/35r felt ok riding, but I always put it back down to 10 degree split. Works for sure, just not overall comfortable with it.

[Jim Callen]

Let me put it this way: super high angles are only good for carving, nothing else. It's hard to skid a turn, and control when skidding is hard, at best.

[Skwalleur]

Let me put it this way: super high angles are only good for carving, nothing else. It's hard to skid a turn, and control when skidding is hard, at best.

Fair enough. I don't really enjoy skidding my skwals or anything else.