Who is the best in carving ???

[cybi]

I want ride like ...

[tex1230]

CMC...ask anyone

[cybi]

CMC & Fivat, Rillet (EC)

[FTA2R]

asking that question on this board. seriously.....

agree with Pow, depends on what you're trying to accomplish and your style.

i have a few riders I look up to (and I think they know who they are)

[Steve Dold]

Great question. First it would be Doug Dryer of Bend OR. After that it would be this guy (http://stevedold.com/ernesto/). He rides all winter on ice, and all summer on rocks and dirt, and carves the El Mirage Dry Lake on his F2 while being pulled behind a jeep like a water skier. I think he also has a school where he teaches you how to be shot out of a cannon, but that's not really snowboarding-related.

[trailertrash]

others may want to back me up but im pretty sure its this guy (http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=3382&stc=1)

[Pow]

others may want to back me up but im pretty sure its this guy (http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=3382&stc=1)
i have changed my mind. he's definately the best, hands down.

[Jack Michaud]

Shred Gruumer, duh.

[cybi]

It`s a way to the truth... to compare the best & youself style. :-)

[trailertrash]

your criteria is too vague to be taken seriously.

[Neil Gendzwill]

If I had to pick one (http://www.jaseyjay.com/en/photos/pr.shtml)...

[cybi]

your criteria is too vague to be taken seriously.
You can discribe the best riders in race , freecarving or eurocarving, everythingelsestyle... who is for you the best ? The question is very simple.

[tex1230]

why do you want to look like others? be original, develop your own style.
I love watching the EC guys, but I'm not gonna ride that way...
I think CMC and that russian guy who posted in the vid section have a great style too, but I'm not gonna ride like them either.
This is not about looking like others...It's about how you feel when you lock into a heelside for the first time and then trying to get that feeling back over & over again.

[cybi]

If I had to pick one (http://www.jaseyjay.com/en/photos/pr.shtml)...

Link on video or photo is the best unswer. That what i want.

[cybi]

why do you want to look like others? be original, develop your own style.
I love watching the EC guys, but I'm not gonna ride that way...
I think CMC and that russian guy who posted in the vid section have a great style too, but I'm not gonna ride like them either.
This is not about looking like others...It's about how you feel when you lock into a heelside for the first time and then trying to get that feeling back over & over again.

How can i be original if i do not understand basic things yet, i can only copy someone style.
This my eurostyle frontside what do you think ? http://carving.onedge.ru/Video/cybi_laydown.wmv

[D-Sub]

It`s a way to the truth... to compare the best & youself style. :-)

Ive ridden with way too many hard carvers, and seen way too many amazing pictures to even try this.

"the best" is subjective, and in all honesty..>WHY?

Sutherland fckin rips on a carver, Ken in Utah..Michaud looks pretty damn good...Jenney...

there are so many ripping carvers (although Im more impressed by all around riders)...

[D-Sub]

How can i be original if i do not understand basic things yet, i can only copy someone style.
This my eurostyle frontside what do you think ? http://carving.onedge.ru/Video/cybi_laydown.wmv

looks good on the TOESIDE. can you do HEELSIDE? consecutively?

[trailertrash]

How can i be original if i do not understand basic things yet, i can only copy someone style.
This my eurostyle frontside what do you think ? http://carving.onedge.ru/Video/cybi_laydown.wmv



i think your orignal post should have asked for video demonstrating proper technique?

after we decide who the best carver is we can decide the best blues guitarist both decisions should have about as much merit.

[cybi]

Heelside in progress... i work on it day by day, it is not redy yet, it is very very very hard :-).

[cybi]

i think your orignal post should have asked for video demonstrating proper technique?

after we decide who the best carver is we can decide the best blues guitarist both decisions should have about as much merit.

Guitar has six strings, snowboard has only two edges :-). My unswer is - Eric Clapton :-) for me , for you it would be BBKing :-).

[arcit]

Lightning Hopkins bar none the BEST Blues player ever. As far a carving there are way too many to name.

[tex1230]

toeside looks good to me... If you can follow it up on heelside you are looking good.

Best carver I ever say? hard to say...plenty of guys on the East coast look great...then I went to Oregon and saw (and did) things you couldn't even attempt on normal Ice Coast conditions...

The best carver is the one who is confident and happy.
Plus if you're dressed in a green one piece with matching board you get bonus points!

[slinkygnu]

Mac Endo, a Japanese guy, he was good. He was writing books on carving technique back in the early 90s.

[Gecko]

Mac Endo, a Japanese guy, he was good. He was writing books on carving technique back in the early 90s.

Good Books too you don't even have to read japanese to find them useful

[eddie]

Billy Bordy, Phil Fell, Dave Tille, Fin, and some of the PC team all rock in my book. They are the only ones I've seen in person that I can say definately rock!!!

If I would only choose one it would be billy but I like watching all of them ride.

[dano]

Gilmore and close second Steve Fleck. I see those guys slicing on those skinny madds and just scratch my head. Freaking aliens!

BTW, euro carves are a cool trick, but hitting the snow like that reminds me of kissing a curb or hitting an alley wall with a car...sort of interupts the flow.

[Shred Gruumer]

No no Jack... Its all you.. and you know it!! Thanks though.. I do have a wicked reetaaded heel side on green runs.... :smashfrea ahhhahahaa!

Right said Shred
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Nothing of mine everworks!

[Helmut Karvlow]

Your all Fu--ed Those of you who witnessed it.
I want to ride like BORDY!!! every one else even cmc need a reality check. I thought. thought I was good till I saw Bordy. :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Mike T]

I find that watching a rider live is much more telling than seeing video. So I am not going to make calls based on video. And, I'm complteley unqualified to judge "overall snowboarding ability" anways.

However, I'd still like to tip my hat to a few riders I've seen in person, whose riding I can only dream of emulating one day:

"Old Snowboards" Bryan: Makes it all look so smooth and so easy, especially on his stiff monster boards. Never seen him crash in countless hours.

Jim Callen: How many turns per second can you do? Makes beautiful GS turns through moguls.

Mark Harris and Don Richter: Masters of balance and understatement. Haul @$$ on SL decks.

Bordy: powerful and versatile, rides switch on plates on a 203 better than I will ever ride anything.

Not to mention several other folks who amazed the crap out of me at SES, whose names I never found out.

[sheffy]

Shred Gruumer, duh.

:smashfrea

[Fleaman]

I have an Evil sports sticker on my coiler and it makes me the best.

:biggthump

Seriously, I havent ridden with too many other guys but I do know One hardbooter that can do the bumps like a pro skier. Were not talking small bumps either, these are late season ungrooomed all year bumps. I'll call him Dario.

[Dr D]

Guitar has six strings, snowboard has only two edges :-). My unswer is - Eric Clapton :-) for me , for you it would be BBKing :-).

he's got a comeback for everything the goofballs and the militants have thrown at him.:biggthump

I got side with the develop your own style opinion. I started snowboarding because I got tired of my dad telling me how to ski. I started alpine boarding because It felt right. get out there and have fun and you will become better than anything you could copy. the EC frontside looks cool but mach five and using up all the groom is way fun. If you get to worried about doing it right it'll become no different than another job. basic rule keep it on the edges and going forward.

[tex1230]

basic rule keep it on the edges and going forward.

Unless you're Bordy...

http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?t=9306&highlight=fakie

[sic t 2]

Of riders I have actually WITNESSED freeride on the mountain:

On hardboots:
Chris Klug (jaw dropping, big mountain, big speed, big natural airs)
But Zcarver gets it if we eliminate godlike Klug from the mix.

On softboots:
JTSlalom (style and precision to die for)

Hardboot switch:
55 year old me

Bye
Sic (http://www.acemotocross.com/bomberonline/oldman.jpg)

[Gleb]

hey cybi. Welcome to Bomberonline. I used to live in St. Petersburg 14 years back. Glad to see another Russian on here :)

[Michelle]

ME! Hands down!:biggthump

[Bobby Buggs]

For the Ice coast I would have to say Tony-Zcarver, CarveFather-Ronnie RPM and
Mt Snow's Rob Case, Forgot to mention Alex J from Stratton cause he is so loud all the time

[carvedog]

This my eurostyle frontside what do you think ? http://carving.onedge.ru/Video/cybi_laydown.wmv

Welcome Cybi. YOur toe turns looked pretty good. First turn one laid out, smooth, lost lots of speed and looked slightly unstable when standing up. Full body contact with snow can be fun. Can also be for speed control on steeper terrain and it is fun. If you do too much full body on flat runs you lose the rhythm.

Turn two. More aggressive flop to the snow. Almost lost edge towards end of turn right before popping up. The board "wiggles" 2 or 3 times right before you pop.
Reason. (Speculation here): Turn is guided and shaped too much by body contact on snow instead of bend of board. Result: not enough shape to turn and flex of board causing earlier decamber of board without speed control and bigger pressure down fall line causing the pseodo chatter.

Advice: (Since you are asking) Learn to turn various shapes and styles from full layout, to fingers barely skimming, to hip or knee only to nothing touching the snow at all. Then you can dial in the euro turn whenever you want.

Good luck

[dirk109]

CMC, Hands down best FreeCarver right now. He does his ****e on old beat down Madd 58's.

[ar(angel]

This kid blew my mind when I saw him coming down the face under our main chair at Shasta. He was warming up for a race and ripped off about 20 tight aggressive carves, porpoising in between, hit the wide-out area, straight lined it and jumped like a ski jumper off a hump in the run and than slammed it sideways to a stop right in front of his buddies on the snowboard team. He now competes on the World Cup and beats both Klug and Jewell on occasion. He's the future of Alpine for the USA as far as I'm concerned. FIS # 1666363,

Paul

[jtslalom]

The best I've ever seen and probably ever will see,

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***** WILL GARROW ******
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I'm not sure if this is the correct pronunciation or spelling of his name but with exception to a few pros, NOBODY can hold a flame to this guy.

[Zcarver]

Hey Buggs and Sic, thank you for the kind words! :biggthump

I would have to give my hat up to Knuckle Head Ronski :smashfrea and Rob Case as great carvers this year. As I didn't ride too well in my worst season ever in 20 years of knowing the sport. :(

I Just discovered a crack on the top sheet of ultra prime and the edges on the FP is shot and thin as hell. My season is done for. As for next season... :eek: