SKWAL sighting..FS

[Bill Boothby]

I spotted this in a friends storage condo. My friend is an expert sandboarder and was given this by the maker...it has never touched sand.

The board is in good shape complete with bindings. we are talking complete package, I don't want to be bothered separating board and bindings.

It goes to the highest posted bid ending one week from now Tues. 8:ooam Pac.Time
I hope this is fair...I have no clue what I have here, so I welcome comment.

No Reserve, No holds barred, anything goes...Let's get ready to rumble!!!

You pay shipping actual cost I package up on my dime, No BS.
Paypal Ok, you pay the 3% ding ( credit card, cash on account,check,whatever, they still get you)

[chadx]

Nice find!
Questionable graphics.
Attack of the Giraffe?! hehe.

I'm interested. I'll be watching this 'auctions' progress...

Will those bindings work with most/all hardboots? Or only ski-boots?

[carverbob]

I have a similar Skwal and they should work for most, if not all, hard boots, although maybe not those with Intec heels, or other step-in retrofits. In the Skwal videos I have most of the riders are on hard snowboard boots.

[carverbob]

I'll start the bidding at $75 (mainly for the bindings).

[tex1230]

I know I'm low, but $140 including shipping to 06902 (paypal or check - your choice)
just want to try it out...

[carverbob]

From an old Skwal catalog:

Extreme carving

Ideal for:
Racing
Precision/performance/stability
XL extreme carving
Long radius turns
For riders with excellent technique

Aptitude:
Accessibility ** (2* of 5 *)
Carving ***** (5* of 5 *)
All terrain ** (2* of 5*)

[Dan]

Doesn't the topsheet say "Made in Canada"? Heck, if those bad boys are made up north, how come it's so @#$@ hard to find one in the U.S.? I'm tempted...but think I need to pass on further gear purchases until I have, you know, a job.

Looks like a fun, wild ride though - whoever buys it please post a review!

[kevbo]

how much?? any range avail....:biggthump


lr:)

[Bill Boothby]

I have been getting quite a few emails about the Skwal. My friend Is interested in selling it and I agreed to help him. Some of you skateboard racers out there know Jack Smith, the owner of the Skwal, he is dedicated to the promotion of Slalom Skateboarding,also a legend in Sandboarding for over 30 years. We really do not have a clue what this thing is worth to someone,so we are chumming for takers.
While willing to let it go for chump change, we hope to get a fair price and at the same time hope someone gets a good deal.
I really do not have the time to entertain inquiries so I thought the auction idea would more or less self regulate. I seriously do not wish to pit brother against brother in a dollar based show of strength. My intention is to create interest in this oddity, find it a good home, keep us entertained as we get our "Bomberonline Fix" each day and create an archival trail of interested riders that this may be passed on to .
-Only posted offers are considered.
-Yes, it is drilled w/4x4 inserts.
-Factor in a base grind, there are a few nicks
Thanks BB

[tex1230]

my $140 looking pretty good then?

:eplus2:

[Speedzilla]

$250 via Paypal including shipping to 55044.

[tex1230]

...and I'm out...

enjoy - I think that's a winning bid.

[Dr D]

how about afew of us curious souls pitch in and buy this thing and then take turns running it a couple weeks at a time? sort of a club demo. I would love to try one and I know I am not the only one who doesn't want to fork out 250 plus on something that may or may not be enjoyable. Maybe its great maybe its not much different than what I'm doing now. Hate to cough up green in large amounts to find out. what say? any takers? shipping would be an ongoing cost I guess. Maybe its a stupid idea. 250$ is probably beating what I got in the toy can.

[tex1230]

Skwal Timeshare?
I'd throw down $50 for that - if we can get a few others interestd we could pass it around next season...
everyone gets it for a week, tunes it & sends it on to the next guy...
Don't tell D-sub...he'll call us commies! :D

Probably won't work - shipping it around the country could get expensive and I foresee problems with who's next in line, shipped board not arriving in time...lots of potential for conflict...

[chadx]

Aside from all the conflicts and shipping charges and tuning costs and potential for someone damaging it and other potential problems...a great idea! One of those things that is great in theory, but the execution could be a bear.

Another way to eliminate the bidding war is someone could just pony up and buy it, get their use out of it for a few weeks, then put it back on BOL for what they paid for it. Each time it's sold, the seller would only be out shipping and possibly tuning for getting to run the board for 2 - 4 weeks. Again, their are problems with that idea, like someone might just decide they love it and want to keep it and it would never make it back on the For Sale board.

I've seen similar on BOL since I've been on. You'll see a board that keeps popping back up For Sale and it changes hands many times.

Who knows. This may not be the last we see of the mono-giraffe!

[Bill Boothby]

....since I am a hot shot cabinetmaker, I fabricate a very durable shipping container for the Skwal. Weight being a parameter of high consideration.
That is if this "gang bang" pans out... :1luvu:

[MUD]

Who would be the "keeper" of the board in the long run? Would it just be the person that ended up with it last? How do we not forget about it being available?

[tex1230]

shares in the skwal could be set at $50, and we could keep a schedule posted, rotating 10 day periods, making sure it made it to SES and ECES...

Speedzilla, what do you think?

i figure we'd need 6 or 7 people in this to make iot work and make sure everyone gets it at least 2 times a season...

we could keep a running thread here with calendar & who has it...

and the "keeper" would be the guy who finally breaks it...he would have to compensate the other shareholders for that though...full payoff the first round, half the second, and decreasing through the seasons.

[chadx]

This sounds very complex and next to impossible to pull off...consider me in!:biggthump hehe. Well, pending ironing out all the issues, of course.

Bill should think about just keeping it himself and renting it out. Put like a $400 deposit on it and if broken, he gets to keep the money. Or if it gets a gash, minus a set amount, etc. Then the renter ships it direct to the next in line (after that person pays Bill and makes the deposit (or returns the deposit to the previous shipper and then Bill falls out of the loop). We could always come up with something even more complex if this it too simple for everyone. :eplus2:

[Dr D]

rotate it for a season and if one or more really want to keep it hold a bidding war again and the winner splits the payoff between the other shares. I think one week might be to short though might work better and save shipping to just have your two weeks all at once.

Every one involved gets to use it two weeks and then we decide if we want to do it again or bid it off again. we could also put it on the board or ebay if we all think it sucks and split the proceeds.

I think it would ship inside a piece of PVC pipe with caps just nice and certainly durable enough for repeat shipment. whoever ships it is responsible for shipping.

I am in even if we have to up the share price a little. If nothing else it will give us something to talk/argue about on the board next season.:lol:

[Dr D]

I count 4 interested so far. 5 if speedzilla yields to the many. I bet we can get a moderator to oversee a thread with the particulars. location, next in line etc. anyone causing problems will be flogged etc. with less than 10 parties involved the democratic process should cover any eventuality. I would submit that a fresh wax would probably be sufficient between riders. Any "damage" maintainance would be the responsibility of the one who did the damage. any issues that arise get put to a vote on the thread.

[carverbob]

I currently have a new and unmounted Lacroix Skwal Contest. I bought it for a friend, but he has gone into "radio silence", and not sure if he still wants it. If he doesn't take it this weekend, I'll sell it to your new "Skwal Consortium" for my cost, $119 (+ s/h). It will need bindings, but if you can't find them to buy, they can be fabricated from alpine bindings (I can send instructions). Having a second board would double your inventory so that two of you could ride (and try to figure out the thing) at the same time. I will also include a copy of the riding instruction manual, and a copy of the VHS tape that came with my original.
I am leaving for the weekend, but will be back on line Sunday PM.
Cheers,
Bob

[Dr D]

I currently have a new and unmounted Lacroix Skwal Contest. I bought it for a friend, but he has gone into "radio silence", and not sure if he still wants it. If he doesn't take it this weekend, I'll sell it to your new "Skwal Consortium" for my cost, $119 (+ s/h). It will need bindings, but if you can't find them to buy, they can be fabricated from alpine bindings (I can send instructions). Having a second board would double your inventory so that two of you could ride (and try to figure out the thing) at the same time. I will also include a copy of the riding instruction manual, and a copy of the VHS tape that came with my original.
I am leaving for the weekend, but will be back on line Sunday PM.
Cheers,
Bob

This gets better and better. I have a spare set of bindings or two. something should work.

hey we could get this all figured out and start a demo club that tries all the new cool stuff.:freak3: :freak3: :smashfrea

[carverbob]

Whether or not my board goes to the "consortium", I will post the instruction manual next week (it is in .pdf format), if you can tell me how to do that. Failing that, I could just e-mail it to someone more technical than I am to post, or at least share with the owners group.

[kevbo]

This looks like a fun deal. I would be down when it gets ironed out.


:biggthump kr:)

[Dr D]

everyone who is interested reply with how much you are willing to pay as far as shares go. send email to delaneycarlson@hotmail.com
I will post the list when it comes in and update it as needed. we can then vote on amounts and what not.

remember we have the second swaal at 119 plus shipping to consider as well.
twice the fun/coverage.

I will get it started:eplus2: :eplus2: :eplus2: :eplus2: :eplus2: :eplus2: :eplus2: :eplus2:

Dr D 75$
and a set of wild duck bindings that look very similiar to those above

tex1230 50$

[Dr D]

I currently have a new and unmounted Lacroix Skwal Contest. I bought it for a friend, but he has gone into "radio silence", and not sure if he still wants it. If he doesn't take it this weekend, I'll sell it to your new "Skwal Consortium" for my cost, $119 (+ s/h). It will need bindings, but if you can't find them to buy, they can be fabricated from alpine bindings (I can send instructions). Having a second board would double your inventory so that two of you could ride (and try to figure out the thing) at the same time. I will also include a copy of the riding instruction manual, and a copy of the VHS tape that came with my original.
I am leaving for the weekend, but will be back on line Sunday PM.
Cheers,
Bob

snobhorde of france has a lacroix contest with bindings for 200 euros plus shipping if the other deal doesn't pan out we have options. It would be nice if we had the giraffe and one lacroix for comparison though as opposed to two lacroix's

[Pow]

this board looks like cheese... yum

[Dr D]

bump:biggthump

[carverbob]

My friend did not take the LaCroix, so it is now up for sale. I sent additional details on bindings to Dr. D, as I do not know how to post long documents with these replies.
Best regards,

[eaglez]

Forgive me if I am wrong, but does anyone actually think that this "share the board" proposal has any chance of NOT becoming an colossal disaster? If you don't have the balls to pony up the dough to buy it outright then why not back off and let the people who actually want and can pay for the board bid for it.

Since carverbob has no direct email turned on in his profile, I am asking him if he wants to sell his board to me for the price he indicated. My apologizes to Bill B. for looking at both boards on his thread. Email me at eaglez@sympatico.ca if you want to make the deal. I have been an ebay buyer/seller since 1997 and I don't waste peoples time. If we make a deal, I pay immediately, no waiting for "cheques in the mail" that never arrive.

Darren :biggthump

[tex1230]

Chill out - it's just a suggestion. :nono:

as I see it, speedzilla still has the best bid and this ends tuesday.

If anyone wants to join me & Dr. D, speak up now. Otherwise, no big deal.

Speedzilla - If you win will you consider renting it out?

[Dr D]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I am telling my mommy you guys won't play fair:lol:

holy cow where do they keep these guys?

Its just an idea not a constitutional attack. bid it up baby. I believe that tex and I will be buying the carverbob one though. we don't need six guys to pull that one off.

I take exception to your insinuation that those who "can't afford it" should just go away. If you can go buy one and go away yourself:flamethro

[eaglez]

2 mindless pages of postings with only 2 legitimate bids?? That is ridiculous!! :smashfrea All Bill B. , and any other seller, wants is to sell the item as easily as possible for as much as they can get. No seller is going to entertain "consortium" bidding when the simplicity of a single winning bid is available. So why waste your time with it. As for "bidding" on carverbob's board, I wasn't aware he was auctioning it off. If he contacts me or posts his terms here, bring it on. The more the merrier. :flamethro

[tex1230]

I think there were 3 bids... :smashfrea

[Dr D]

What you really need to wrap your mind around is that this isn't ebay. This is a community of people who enjoy the same pastime. We also "know" each other.

I don't mean that strictly literally all though many do. what I mean is we have ongoing conversations about a variety of topics that allows us to form community ties. we also stick together like any other community when attacked. It is completely off base to enter a conversation and tell everyone they are idiots. We already know that :eplus2: read the rest of the post. We are developing an idea that may not happen until next year if ever. Its a way of community problem solving. Yes there are those of us who have limited toy budgets. mostly the new guys. That is a problem for our entire sport because its consumer dollars that will drive new designs and equipment manufacturers into our sport. The same thing goes for the skwal. The only reason they aren't sold here is that there isn't enough market yet. if enough of us try one and like it we end up creating a market for them allowing all the bystanders a chance to try it. at any rate even crazy ideas have merit if enough people agree on it.

[carverbob]

Sorry to have added to the flurry of e-mails , and further complicating BB's effort to sell his friend's Skwal. I offered my LaCroix to Dr. D and his group as part of the "fun" of having more people on Skwals, and I think they have a good idea for enjoying a unique board, (and they are fun, but if you think you hear lots of inane comments riding an alpine board, you haven't been on a Skwal!).

That said, if Dr. D, and consortium, wants the board, it is theirs. If not, Eaglez has made an offer. I have not put it up for sale to the general membership, yet, and am not "auctioning it off", just selling it at my cost.

So Dr. D and company, please let me know by Tuesday night if you want the board, and I will give you PayPal instructions.

Eaglez, if they choose not to buy it I will send you an e-mail. I will also update my profile with my e-email. Until then, it is bob_roehl@hotmail.com

Again, sorry for adding to this long thread for BB's sale.

Best regards,

[carverbob]

My LaCroix has been sold to Dr. D.
Thank you, everyone, for your interest.

[NateW]

Dr. D, count me in for the Skwal pass-around if you still like that idea. I don't think I want to own one, but I would love to try one for a day or three. I'll cover shipping costs ad put a deposit equal to the cost of the board, plus a non-refundable $40 or so to make it worthwhile. Or something like that. It's your board, you set the terms. :)

[tex1230]

nate, check here (http://www.bomberonline.com/VBulletin/showthread.php?t=10827) for info on the skwal club.

[Bill Boothby]

Field intelligence reports activity lurking on the perimeter dressed in Gore-tex Ghillie suits...I am playing no favorites to groups or privateers. Lump sum bids considered after shipping and Paypal deduction. State your business, I will be as cut rate as possible shipping this to you,best to deal shipping not in the bid. If you plan to use paypal,speak up...on a second thought, f*#k-it Paypal Sanction Dropped,what are we talking $7.50 (Two pints of BarleyPop,ouch!)
Remember men...Bid High, Bid often!
Carry on BB

[Bill Boothby]

Hammer down! Thanks,B

[eaglez]

:biggthump

[eaglez]

Damn customers taking my time..... :(

[Bill Boothby]

Speedzilla, it looks like "you da man", please report to the podium to claim your prize.
I do not have your contact info, thanks

[Dr D]

check out the demo club link in the community page if you are interested in a skwal trial run. the details have been hashed out and are posted there.

[Bill Boothby]

What we have here is a failure to communicate!! :nono:

[Bubba]

Send him an email through his profile. He probably doesn't know it's his since this thread took a detour through the time share zone.

[Scorpio]

Here's a skwal for anybody else that's interested.....its even got the cool volkl top sheet..... http://cgi.ebay.de/Voelkl-Monocarver-Skwal_W0QQitemZ8785894592QQcategoryZ59756QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

[Bill Boothby]

My very first attempt to contact the 'Winner" was through his profile. This person does not make his Email address available, hidden if you will. Our moderator does not have any contact info on this person either. Hmmm...WTF!, over. Probably on Vacation, Granny ill, karma ran over his dogma, computer failure, whatever.....

[chadx]

Yep, there are lots of them for sale over there...

http://cgi.ebay.de/Thias-Skwal-Jungle-Mono-Carver-fast-neu_W0QQitemZ8787553723QQcategoryZ22197QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

Same brand as the Giraffe, with equally 'unique' top sheet, though much shorter (165cm) and tighter sidecut (8m vs. the 15m of the flying giraffe).

Note the angle on the bindings. I wonder if they actually rode it that way? Isn't the norm 0 degrees on a Sqwal?

I'm going to Germany next week, so I'm going to keep my eye open for equipment. I have to check with the airlines on what I'm allowed to bring back without getting all kinds of extra charges.

[carverbob]

The standard binding angles for a Skwal are 87.5 front and 85 rear. They recommend only 4cm distance between heel of the front boot and the toe of the rear boot. There has to be a slight offset for the standard bindings so that the toe bail can be closed.
The Easy Jungle in that size is more of a powder, soft snow, lighter or beginner Skwaller board. I believe they made that model in a 175 or 180, as well. Will have to check my old catalog tonight.
I have a soft copy of the Skwal manual if anyone wants them. Unfortunately, they are too big to attach. If someone wants to post them to a website feel free.

[Bill Boothby]

"Come out Speedzilla....you can run, but you'll just die tired" :lol:

[www.oldsnowboards.com]

I spotted this in a friends storage condo. My friend is an expert sandboarder and was given this by the maker...it has never touched sand.

The board is in good shape complete with bindings. we are talking complete package, I don't want to be bothered separating board and bindings.

It goes to the highest posted bid ending one week from now Tues. 8:ooam Pac.Time
I hope this is fair...I have no clue what I have here, so I welcome comment.

No Reserve, No holds barred, anything goes...Let's get ready to rumble!!!

You pay shipping actual cost I package up on my dime, No BS.
Paypal Ok, you pay the 3% ding ( credit card, cash on account,check,whatever, they still get you)

Sorry Jack didn't make it to the "Legends" meet at Donner.
Talked to Jack a few years back at a slalom skateboard race in Hood River.

Jack was the builder of "A Team" sandboards and snowboards back in the day.

Say to him from Bryan of www.oldsnowboards.com

I have one of his early boards in the collection.

[www.oldsnowboards.com]

When everyone is done playing.

Write me to "Get Er Done".

But it won't be for 250$ even with shipping.

Another reason to list on Ebay with a post here.
Cuts all the tire kicking and "Gumming" down to a minimum.

[D-Sub]

"Come out Speedzilla....you can run, but you'll just die tired" :lol:

so how'd this pan out? still nothing from Speedzilla?

believe me...its VERY common for people here to ooh and ahh, and even say "I'll take it" and then just disappear, only to appear a couple weeks later pulling the same **** with another seller or board.

Ive had the same person do the same thing three times to me. "I'll take it" then nothing.

very, very common these days.

[carverbob]

It's been almost a week - D-Sub may be right. Wouldn't be the first time. Most sales on eBay require payment in 3 to 7 days.
I never saw Speedzilla's offer (must've sent a PM or I missed it), but there seemed to be other reasonable offers (someone offered $250 + $7.50 for PayPal + Shipping). Perhaps sell to the second highest bidder, or reopen the bidding for one day only, starting at $250?
Time for you to get this thing moved and get back to Spring riding.

[D-Sub]

$250 via Paypal including shipping to 55044.

and then eaglez offered $250+

[eaglez]

I have emailed BB directly regarding the offer. Thought I missed it so spending the $$$ buying Sam B's short coiler that he has listed. Speedzilla's offer was halfway down the first page.

Darren :biggthump

[D-Sub]

I have emailed BB directly regarding the offer. Thought I missed it so spending the $$$ buying Sam B's short coiler that he has listed. Speedzilla's offer was halfway down the first page.

Darren :biggthump

oh..I wasnt saying you were obligated...it did look like the board was taken....

this is way too common here. bummer.

have fun on the coiler!

[Bill Boothby]

Thank You Speedzilla for sending the payment so promptly. I will package the Skwal and get it to you Pronto.
I enjoyed the auction. It stirred things up a little, some buttons got pushed,we got to talking.
I know Ebay is one way of doing it, but this was more fun.
Thank you Mr Doyle for hosting this venue.
See ya, BB

PS: It's not the speed that gets you, it's the sudden stops!

[eaglez]

Amen... :biggthump